Which Stats Are Better ?

jimmy jackson · Mar 14, 2006

Dude, you have lost the plot again. Crapping on about Jordan's career achievements and so on. Of course, there is NO comparison. Jordan IS the best player of all time.

However, at the same age MJ was not as good as LBJ. All I'm saying is that is an amazing thing to say about LBJ and who knows? Maybe he will go on to have a better career than MJ.

jimmy jackson · Mar 14, 2006

One of these days, there will be a player who surpasses MJ. Maybe it will be Lebron, maybe it wont. Maybe we will be dead before it happens. But rest assured, it will happen.

Natural selection. Darwinism. It's a fact of human nature.

Some day, when we are old old men, there will be some youngsters on a forum talking about Roy Gibbons, the best player in the history of the NBA. Someone will bring up Michael Jordan and the rest of the guys will laugh and call him a dinosaur.

Who would have thought that Ian Perkins 1500m record would be considered slow in 10 years?

Who would have thought the Africans would beat 434?

Who would have thought DMac would lead a team to a championship at 41?

Who would have thought that a case of 03-04 exquisite would crack $7000USD?

There is always tomorrow... and there is always better!

clarkescards · Mar 14, 2006

Hail King Jimmy, Hail. I agree with you. Comparitively, career-wise, LBJ is in a better position than Jordan was. Will he be better than Jordan??? Well, Jimmy (nor I) are saying that LBJ will be, but of the current crop of players, he has the most likelihood of being better than Mike. Only time will answer this question, so nothing can be gained by arguing this, At the moment, any comparison 10yrs from now is only going to be in the form of an opinion, and from these, most people differ on opinions.

Remember, people from the early NBA probably thought no-one would overtake Mikan. Then came Chamberlain & the Celtic powerhouse teams. People thought that no-one would fare better than Wilt, but to some extent Magic & Bird attained this, and Jordan especially. Some even said (in the 90's), that the feats achieved by Magic & Bird would never be beaten, but MJ proved this wrong. There will be someone who is more dominant than Jordan. It's just that at this present point in time, a few are suggesting LBJ (although I wouldn't mind hedging my bet with Wade).

jimmy jackson · Mar 14, 2006

Clarkey to the rescue! You can take over now man.

jimmy jackson · Mar 14, 2006

White chocolate, you're not ready to join the big boys.

chadjaja · Mar 14, 2006

jimmy jackson said:
Who would have thought that Ian Perkins 1500m record would be considered slow in 10 years?

Are you talking about "Kick it to me, kick it to me?" LMAO

And Clarkey and JJ are right LIKE I SAID earlier LJ is more advanced at his age than MJ. It will be all up to external influences now to see how far he goes..

white_chocolate_55 · Mar 14, 2006

jimmy jackson said:
White chocolate, you're not ready to join the big boys.

ok..........

white_chocolate_55 · Mar 14, 2006

hang on a second.. what has lebron done more than jordan hasnt in the same time in league? or are you saying his age? lebrons had what say 3 years + experience in the league that college would equal to.. anyways, you worship your shrine and what you beleive is god.. and i'll worship mine

lockymac · Mar 14, 2006

lebron has hughes/marshall/the big Z and the list can go on..thats more talent than what mj had

I respectfully disagree with that assessment.
Pippen and Rodman are HOFers.
BJ and Horace played in All Star Games.
Kukoc, Harper, Paxon and Kerr all knew thier roles.
I think MJ had the stronger supporting cast.

jimmy jackson · Mar 14, 2006

white_chocolate_55 said:
hang on a second.. what has lebron done more than jordan hasnt in the same time in league? or are you saying his age? lebrons had what say 3 years + experience in the league that college would equal to.. anyways, you worship your shrine and what you beleive is god.. and i'll worship mine

I do recall actually saying that I don't necessarily think LBJ is great to watch. I most certainly don't worship the guy (or any other pro athletes), although by your own admission, you worship MJ.

Don't mean to go off-topic here, actually **** it, I do... Tell me about how MJ helped the development of Kwame Brown.

white_chocolate_55 · Mar 14, 2006

kwame brown was shit, if you read jordans book/s you'll see that jordan didnt like brown after he was drafted...

jimmy jackson · Mar 14, 2006

Then why did MJ want him on the Wizards so back?

MJ broke him.

Did you read that in your book?

white_chocolate_55 · Mar 14, 2006

yes mj broke him...

and it was either going to be chandler/brown but brown destroyed chandler at the wizards camp on a private one/one game.. so they went with brown, and brown came in totally unprepared and had a terrible mindset that wasnt expected, and mj ended up breaking him big time..

i take it you meant "Then why did MJ want him on the Wizards so bad?" and not "back"

white_chocolate_55 · Mar 14, 2006

jimmy jackson said:
Then why did MJ want him on the Wizards so back?

MJ broke him.

Did you read that in your book?

oh and read my original quote... "after he was drafted" first post on this page

jimmy jackson · Mar 14, 2006

He ridiculed him in front of the other players in his rookie season. Called him a girl, laughed at him, mocked him. It's no wonder he has never had any confidence. Imagine going through that as a rookie, served out by one of your childhood legends.

Anyhow, I digress. But I guess my basic point is that I don't rate MJ like many do. He was a great player on a great team. He was a questionable character. Not the class of e.g. Joe Dumars. (Don't know if you were old enough to remember him )

ducky_poo · Mar 14, 2006

jimmy jackson said:
One of these days, there will be a player who surpasses MJ. Maybe it will be Lebron, maybe it wont. Maybe we will be dead before it happens. But rest assured, it will happen.

Natural selection. Darwinism. It's a fact of human nature.

Some day, when we are old old men, there will be some youngsters on a forum talking about Roy Gibbons, the best player in the history of the NBA. Someone will bring up Michael Jordan and the rest of the guys will laugh and call him a dinosaur.

Who would have thought that Ian Perkins 1500m record would be considered slow in 10 years?

Who would have thought the Africans would beat 434?

Who would have thought DMac would lead a team to a championship at 41?

Who would have thought that a case of 03-04 exquisite would crack $7000USD?

There is always tomorrow... and there is always better!

we'll see in due time. you never know he may succeed he may go down like grant hill you never know

jimmy jackson · Mar 14, 2006

Lets hope not Ducky! Especially now with Amare Microfracture Stoudemire... We can't be losing these guys to injuries

white_chocolate_55 · Mar 14, 2006

jimmy jackson said:
He ridiculed him in front of the other players in his rookie season. Called him a girl, laughed at him, mocked him. It's no wonder he has never had any confidence. Imagine going through that as a rookie, served out by one of your childhood legends.

Anyhow, I digress. But I guess my basic point is that I don't rate MJ like many do. He was a great player on a great team. He was a questionable character. Not the class of e.g. Joe Dumars. (Don't know if you were old enough to remember him )

[-X he called him a ***got, threatened him etc.. but the guy was a chump, and dared mj to one on one contests thinking he'd beat him... of course mj wasnt going to like that..

dont see how mj didnt have class.. he busted up steve kerr pretty well at training too, so what?

great player on a great team.. yes stacey king was such a superstar.. go will perdue you champion you.. scott williams your a gun.. corey williams/jojo english your allstars way to go.. cliff levingston, your 4.0 ppg in 1992 was sorely missed in 1993.. how could they let you go.. craig hodges/dennis hopson.. i tell you, how did the nba move forward? dave corzine, your an alltime hero.. well done boy.. you helped mj take the bulls to new levels

Benny J · Mar 14, 2006

white_chocolate_55 said:
[-X he called him a ***got, threatened him etc.. but the guy was a chump, and dared mj to one on one contests thinking he'd beat him... of course mj wasnt going to like that..

dont see how mj didnt have class.. he busted up steve kerr pretty well at training too, so what?

great player on a great team.. yes stacey king was such a superstar.. go will perdue you champion you.. scott williams your a gun.. corey williams/jojo english your allstars way to go.. cliff levingston, your 4.0 ppg in 1992 was sorely missed in 1993.. how could they let you go.. craig hodges/dennis hopson.. i tell you, how did the nba move forward? dave corzine, your an alltime hero.. well done boy.. you helped mj take the bulls to new levels

I think this argument has gotten out of hand...but....while you are naming all the shitty players look at the good ones he had...pippen, rodman, grant, etc etc.

Matt26 · Mar 14, 2006

Dont forget Luc Longley!!!!

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