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Billyhoyle
Im Not Juan Garcia
Let's put it into a bit of perspective and to pick up on @GoMoto point, about thinking about what we post - really is swearing and carrying on the sort of member that you want around here? I understand that you are annoyed/frustrated, i'd even agree with being pissed off - but here we are trying to rebuild and develop this forum and you think it's ok to post that?
To respond to your points -
I agree with your points 1 and 3. People need to show some courtesy and reply to messages. Can we/you force them - of course not, but that is where setting a high standard and example is even more important.
1. If it was me - I'd send a follow up - Hi, I see you just put the card on ebay, did you get my offer I sent last night? I know you shouldn't have to send a follow up but sometimes people read a PM and then forget about it or don't reply. (I'm a culprit of this, as OCT is blocked at work and I often read it on my phone and then forget that night when I get home)
2.Isn't that what trading is about? Who's not to say that the Wingard caught their eye or maybe they were also working another trade where the Wingard could help? Are people not allowed to enquire about things not on their wantlist?
3.Also what is reasonable/fair price may not be to them? Yes I agree with courtesy should be a response to you, but that has already been discussed it is not happening, so we need to be building the community so it is expected and happens.
rather than ranting and swearing - how about being positive and proactive - put it out there as a reminder to everyone that as common courtesy you should reply to messages
Billyhoyle
Im Not Juan Garcia
Let's put it into a bit of perspective and to pick up on @GoMoto point, about thinking about what we post - really is swearing and carrying on the sort of member that you want around here? I understand that you are annoyed/frustrated, i'd even agree with being pissed off - but here we are trying to rebuild and develop this forum and you think it's ok to post that?
To respond to your points -
I agree with your points 1 and 3. People need to show some courtesy and reply to messages. Can we/you force them - of course not, but that is where setting a high standard and example is even more important.
1. If it was me - I'd send a follow up - Hi, I see you just put the card on ebay, did you get my offer I sent last night? I know you shouldn't have to send a follow up but sometimes people read a PM and then forget about it or don't reply. (I'm a culprit of this, as OCT is blocked at work and I often read it on my phone and then forget that night when I get home)
2.Isn't that what trading is about? Who's not to say that the Wingard caught their eye or maybe they were also working another trade where the Wingard could help? Are people not allowed to enquire about things not on their wantlist?
3.Also what is reasonable/fair price may not be to them? Yes I agree with courtesy should be a response to you, but that has already been discussed it is not happening, so we need to be building the community so it is expected and happens.
rather than ranting and swearing - how about being positive and proactive - put it out there as a reminder to everyone that as common courtesy you should reply to messages
Just frustrated and angry mate. I'll edit my language.
If you or others don't want me as a member on here that can be arranged too.
FYI I didn't call anyone out as per GoMoto's post. Just giving examples of the rubbish that I have had to put up with in recent days.
If you or others don't want me as a member on here that can be arranged too.
FYI I didn't call anyone out as per GoMoto's post. Just giving examples of the rubbish that I have had to put up with in recent days.
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Billyhoyle
Im Not Juan Garcia
Not at all - as I said I agree with some of your points, and I understand your frustration but it's about moving forward and setting the standards we expect of others.
IMO I think @GoMoto hit the nail on the head with the case breaks. He was no longer allowed to run them and everyone just headed off to AFLtcc and bought from there.
All those boxes that would have been busted on here and all the trading that comes off the back of that is gone. There is so much less stuff being listed for sale and trade on here at the moment and unfortunately a lot of good regular members are now just become semi-regular members.
As for tyre-kickers and time wasters, everyone knows who they are. Just dont deal with them. They will always existing in the hobby - its certainly not just a problem just on OCT.
All those boxes that would have been busted on here and all the trading that comes off the back of that is gone. There is so much less stuff being listed for sale and trade on here at the moment and unfortunately a lot of good regular members are now just become semi-regular members.
As for tyre-kickers and time wasters, everyone knows who they are. Just dont deal with them. They will always existing in the hobby - its certainly not just a problem just on OCT.
I think also that when selling cards here people low ball you so often its a waste of time
I know that people want a bargain but when you know a guy trying buy a card for $5 dollars when it worth $50 so they can flip it. Then they get pissed off when you dont sell it for $5.
I just have wonder really is it worth you spend money buying a case or a box then someone wants to buy a card for stuff all money cause there too cheap to buy a box themselves
I know that people want a bargain but when you know a guy trying buy a card for $5 dollars when it worth $50 so they can flip it. Then they get pissed off when you dont sell it for $5.
I just have wonder really is it worth you spend money buying a case or a box then someone wants to buy a card for stuff all money cause there too cheap to buy a box themselves
I think as stated on the first page the only real way to make the Afl section fair and run smoother and make it easier to get case shares organized is to have an Afl specific moderator. I haven't used this site for trading much in the last year.
Billyhoyle
Im Not Juan Garcia
The mods are in discussions to get some case shares happening, if you have any suggestions as to any businesses that have experience and a good reputation in running these please feel free to PM them to me. We have to do our due diligence though to ensure the protection of the members here.
I'm not exactly sure why you think an AFL moderator only would help. I have kept an eye on this forum since this thread was started, I cannot monitor offers that are made on cards - so I'm not saying that has been fixed. The only thing that I have done is moved 1-2 threads, merged a couple of "how much is it worth threads" into the main one.
I'm not sure why you think having a specific mod would make "the Afl section fair", mods would not step into any trades and if someone chooses to lowball or overprice their card, there is not much we can do. If there is someone constantly lowballing please notify the mods via the report button and we can monitor it, but again as I said before it is about educating them about checking card prices and using some common sense.
I think the best thing that could happen to this forum is people start posting, getting some discussions happening that will encourage people to get involved. Look at some examples currently:
Thread about state of origin - 1 reply
RIP Tom Hafey thread - 12 replies (The Reg Gasnier RIP thread in the NRL forum has 32)
The Viney verdict - for something that blew up on twitter/facebook - 3 responses
I say the above as someone mainly in the NBA forum, and there is always plenty of banter and conversation going there on a range of topics, which gets and keeps everyone involved.
This.
For footy fans, there's very little discussion, which doesn't help dispel the notion that some are just here to make a buck/get a bargain.
I don't know if people are worried about putting an opinion forward and getting shouted down, or if they simply use another outlet (ie AFLTCC, Big Footy).
But hey there's a few new threads so there's always hope
Sorry for the newbie question but what is the significance of doing the case shares and box breaks etc. Are people not able to do them themselves?
I'm new to collecting and only just started collecting AFL Teamcoach cards this year but I went to my local newsagent and bought 4 unopened boxes myself. Was tempted to go back and buy a couple more actually. So my question is why do case shares need to be organised? Sorry maybe there is some terminology or something that I am misunderstanding or missing?
On a separate note as feedback on your forum as a newbie, I have also noticed reading through some threads where it just seems to be people continually bumping it saying I really really ned xyz card or I need these cards "urgently" or something. Some of the threads sound like my three year old son when he wants something.
Interesting too that I read members lamenting that people sign up wanting trades etc then never have the courtesy to respond to pm's. Well as a new member I can say it goes both ways. I pm'd what appears to be a regular member here responding to their trade list saying I had over 40 cards they were looking for then specified all the cards from their list that I wanted. But they couldn't even be bothered responding to my pm. Interestingly they were one of the people in this exact thread lamenting the lack of response to a pm by someone. Fortunately I found another new member that was more than happy to do my first trade with me and that seems to have gone well.
Remember everyone was new once and if you want the forum to grow or the quality of poster to improve often this is best done with new blood.
I'm new to collecting and only just started collecting AFL Teamcoach cards this year but I went to my local newsagent and bought 4 unopened boxes myself. Was tempted to go back and buy a couple more actually. So my question is why do case shares need to be organised? Sorry maybe there is some terminology or something that I am misunderstanding or missing?
On a separate note as feedback on your forum as a newbie, I have also noticed reading through some threads where it just seems to be people continually bumping it saying I really really ned xyz card or I need these cards "urgently" or something. Some of the threads sound like my three year old son when he wants something.
Interesting too that I read members lamenting that people sign up wanting trades etc then never have the courtesy to respond to pm's. Well as a new member I can say it goes both ways. I pm'd what appears to be a regular member here responding to their trade list saying I had over 40 cards they were looking for then specified all the cards from their list that I wanted. But they couldn't even be bothered responding to my pm. Interestingly they were one of the people in this exact thread lamenting the lack of response to a pm by someone. Fortunately I found another new member that was more than happy to do my first trade with me and that seems to have gone well.
Remember everyone was new once and if you want the forum to grow or the quality of poster to improve often this is best done with new blood.
Case shares are handy for those in remote or out of area markets
While we get Champions and Teamcoach, Series 2 doesn't make it go our newsagents. Yet Future Force does.
Plus its just fun being part of a group thing, camraderie, community spirit and all that jazz.
While we get Champions and Teamcoach, Series 2 doesn't make it go our newsagents. Yet Future Force does.
Plus its just fun being part of a group thing, camraderie, community spirit and all that jazz.
Not only that case shares a good for series 2 because you know that your boxes are coming from an unsearched case so everyone has a chance at pulling a redemption card, and boxes are generally cheaper than if you bought them st a store, I have been involved in a few shares and they are great
Good point regarding the access to cards for people in remote areas. I guess maybe I am lucky that I know the guy in my local newsagent well and he's happy to sell the cards by the box.
Can you get a case for cheaper than retail? I know I paid $107 I think it was per box and was looking into how I might be able to get some wholesale from the supplier using my ABN. But couldn't really work it out so gave up. What sort of price might a box be with a group case share?
Can you get a case for cheaper than retail? I know I paid $107 I think it was per box and was looking into how I might be able to get some wholesale from the supplier using my ABN. But couldn't really work it out so gave up. What sort of price might a box be with a group case share?
I think it's funny that people get shitty when they get low balled on a price, your trying to sell a card, not them trying to buy a card, so of cause their going to offer a low price because it don't really matter to them if you say no. If you can't handle being offered a low price for a card then their is a solution, don't sell any 
I think it's funny that people get s***ty when they get low balled on a price, your trying to sell a card, not them trying to buy a card, so of cause their going to offer a low price because it don't really matter to them if you say no. If you can't handle being offered a low price for a card then their is a solution, don't sell any
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