That trade has come out of Phoenix of course and is woeful! There is NO WAY that deal goes thru and with the power and spread of the net and media the rumours get more ridiculous each year. If anyone gets traded its the expiring contract of someone like Scal.
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ozballer23
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ozballer23
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That would be a bad trade for boston, giving up an allstar and a future allstar point guard for a guy that gets injured every season about lol
Sounds like the knicks
ozballer23
#1 J.R. Smith Collector
Rondo isnt' going anywhere. Ray on the other hand may as Pierce has two more years on his contract and will retired a celtic in the end I'd say and KG has two more years all loaded increasing. Ray has had the two years, a ring and may still bring in something that we can make part of our future rather than giving a two year player for us a career ending contract.
Sure Rondo has an attitude and can drag the team down but you just have to look at the playoffs this year to see how he can be an elite player in the league. It would have to be a pretty good trade to make him go and even then we would need a great PG replacement as it leaves a rather large hole. There is no word on House staying and Marbury is likely to chase the money after he used us to show he can toe the line. Gabe Pruitt isn't ready to lead this team as he as a second year PG is no where near the second year PG Rondo was.
The Rondo rumours can keep coming but its not goign to happen unless the Celts are told the figure he wants when his comes into FA in another years time and the Celts decide they wont pay it. But I doubt he plays that card just yet. They why its cruicle we dont' overpay BBD or Powe this year.
Sure Rondo has an attitude and can drag the team down but you just have to look at the playoffs this year to see how he can be an elite player in the league. It would have to be a pretty good trade to make him go and even then we would need a great PG replacement as it leaves a rather large hole. There is no word on House staying and Marbury is likely to chase the money after he used us to show he can toe the line. Gabe Pruitt isn't ready to lead this team as he as a second year PG is no where near the second year PG Rondo was.
The Rondo rumours can keep coming but its not goign to happen unless the Celts are told the figure he wants when his comes into FA in another years time and the Celts decide they wont pay it. But I doubt he plays that card just yet. They why its cruicle we dont' overpay BBD or Powe this year.
Whooo hoooo! Tom is the real reason the coaching is great in Boston. He is the brains behind it all and the defensive scheme.
Also the rumour mill is saying we are asking Memphis about their number 2 pick in the draft. What it indicates is that Ainge expects firstly that Rondo is going to ask for too much next year and we lose out, he doubts Rondo's attitude or Big Babby is chasign the dollars and he will get shipped with maybe the likes of expiring contract Scal and others to free up cap space for another FA. Then we keep Powe and he gets BBD's minutes as he did for the most part till late this season when he went down twice. Powe's numbers were even better than BBD's ones if people remember him getting the time.
Interesting times ahead. The whole contract mess and what players think their worth is just might decide if we get back to the finals next year.
I guess one could say that window is up to Rondo and BBD. Others are out of contract but these two may just play the market a lot more to the detriment of the team.
We should of fast tracked Bill Walker and Jr gets more time next year with TA going I'd say and we not having much of a replacement for PP at the 2-3 spot.
ozballer23
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The Boston Celtics appear willing to make major roster changes to balance a chance for a championship run and future financial flexibility.
The Celtics offered Ray Allen(notes) and Rajon Rondo(notes) to the Detroit Pistons for a package that included Richard Hamilton(notes), Tayshaun Prince(notes) and Rodney Stuckey(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Boston general manager Danny Ainge and Detroit’s Joe Dumars never spoke, but rather the Celtics had a lower-level executive make the pitch to a Pistons official over the past weekend, league sources said. Detroit immediately rejected the idea, and it never advanced to the two top executives speaking about particulars.
This isn’t an uncommon occurrence for a GM like Ainge to dispatch an underling to make that kind of a call, if for no other reason to give the top executive some level of deniability that he’s shopping his stars.
This isn’t the first time that Allen, a six-time All-Star, has been mentioned in trade talks this summer. Allen, who will soon turn 34, has an expiring contract of nearly $20 million, for next season. Rondo, 24, a rapidly developing point guard, has been publically termed off-limits by Ainge in trade discussion this summer. Nevertheless, his name found a way into this conversation. Rondo averaged 11.9 points, 8.2 assists and 5.2 rebounds in the regular season, and had three triple-doubles in the Celtics’ playoff run this season.
Boston is unlikely to re-sign Allen to a long-term extension next summer, and there is belief around the league that the Celtics have hesitancy about committing a long-term, expensive contract to Rondo.
There has been some friction with Rondo, largely based on maturity. No issues with him are insurmountable, but Ainge has never minded shopping ideas around the league. Nevertheless, it’s hard to imagine a deal that Boston could do with these two players that would give them a chance to stay a championship contender around Kevin Garnett(notes) and Paul Pierce(notes).
For the Pistons, this deal makes little sense, unless they wanted to let Allen’s expiring deal gain even more salary cap space for the free-agent class of 2010. The idea of trading his three best returners for an expiring contract and one good young player wasn’t worth considering for Dumars, sources said.
The Boston Celtics appear willing to make major roster changes to balance a chance for a championship run and future financial flexibility.
The Celtics offered Ray Allen(notes) and Rajon Rondo(notes) to the Detroit Pistons for a package that included Richard Hamilton(notes), Tayshaun Prince(notes) and Rodney Stuckey(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Boston general manager Danny Ainge and Detroit’s Joe Dumars never spoke, but rather the Celtics had a lower-level executive make the pitch to a Pistons official over the past weekend, league sources said. Detroit immediately rejected the idea, and it never advanced to the two top executives speaking about particulars.
This isn’t an uncommon occurrence for a GM like Ainge to dispatch an underling to make that kind of a call, if for no other reason to give the top executive some level of deniability that he’s shopping his stars.
This isn’t the first time that Allen, a six-time All-Star, has been mentioned in trade talks this summer. Allen, who will soon turn 34, has an expiring contract of nearly $20 million, for next season. Rondo, 24, a rapidly developing point guard, has been publically termed off-limits by Ainge in trade discussion this summer. Nevertheless, his name found a way into this conversation. Rondo averaged 11.9 points, 8.2 assists and 5.2 rebounds in the regular season, and had three triple-doubles in the Celtics’ playoff run this season.
Boston is unlikely to re-sign Allen to a long-term extension next summer, and there is belief around the league that the Celtics have hesitancy about committing a long-term, expensive contract to Rondo.
There has been some friction with Rondo, largely based on maturity. No issues with him are insurmountable, but Ainge has never minded shopping ideas around the league. Nevertheless, it’s hard to imagine a deal that Boston could do with these two players that would give them a chance to stay a championship contender around Kevin Garnett(notes) and Paul Pierce(notes).
For the Pistons, this deal makes little sense, unless they wanted to let Allen’s expiring deal gain even more salary cap space for the free-agent class of 2010. The idea of trading his three best returners for an expiring contract and one good young player wasn’t worth considering for Dumars, sources said.
Seems Rondo is chasing the money and Ray is still worth a bit so we are shopping him looking to the future. Thats not a bad trade at all but you can see whey the Pistons said no to it.
Rondo has come out and said he wants to play in Boston but I just don't know. It would be a huge shame to lose this kid so early on in career when we put so much faith in him starting him from very early on a vet team. Anyone that watched the Bulls series will see why clubs rate him in the top 5 PG's in the game.
Rondo has come out and said he wants to play in Boston but I just don't know. It would be a huge shame to lose this kid so early on in career when we put so much faith in him starting him from very early on a vet team. Anyone that watched the Bulls series will see why clubs rate him in the top 5 PG's in the game.
ozballer23
#1 J.R. Smith Collector
Rondo would be a huge loss to the celtics, definetly up there with the best pg's in the NBA. I think if they could, strike a deal with one of the teams with the top picks, save some $$$, get a new young pg!
Ainge knows our window is small and has said he wont sacrifice the now for the future. A healthy KG means a healthier PP come playoff time and we contend once more and a serious threat to the title. Ainge has also said he wouldn't take most 1st rounders over JR G and Walker so I don't think they are going anywhere especially with the impending delisting or trading of Tony Allen.
Rondo would be a HUGE loss but some players treat it as a business and others don't. Rondo should stay and Ainge said we want him. He would also know he will inherit this team when the big three moves on. The development of JR and Walker is crucial for the comming year. I hope both are in the gym as I type.
Ray I fear is gone but if we get something of decent value for Ray and his contract it may pay to be the right move. People are fickle and bag Ray but then jump up and down when he hits 51pts in the playoffs and many many many game winners each season. He played hurt in the playoffs and that didn't help his shooting as it took out his legs and every shooter knows the legs are the most important part of getting your shot on.
Ainge is great at smokescreens so we can't assume anything.
Rodo may or may not go.
Ray will prob go.
We may only draft at 58 or pull off some big draft day deal
We may just only wait for FA and pull out the checkbook to get help
Marbury?
Have we seen the last of Scal?
Who knows and the 2010 FA and economy makes it all the more complicated.
Rondo would be a HUGE loss but some players treat it as a business and others don't. Rondo should stay and Ainge said we want him. He would also know he will inherit this team when the big three moves on. The development of JR and Walker is crucial for the comming year. I hope both are in the gym as I type.
Ray I fear is gone but if we get something of decent value for Ray and his contract it may pay to be the right move. People are fickle and bag Ray but then jump up and down when he hits 51pts in the playoffs and many many many game winners each season. He played hurt in the playoffs and that didn't help his shooting as it took out his legs and every shooter knows the legs are the most important part of getting your shot on.
Ainge is great at smokescreens so we can't assume anything.
Rodo may or may not go.
Ray will prob go.
We may only draft at 58 or pull off some big draft day deal
We may just only wait for FA and pull out the checkbook to get help
Marbury?
Have we seen the last of Scal?
Who knows and the 2010 FA and economy makes it all the more complicated.
ozballer23
#1 J.R. Smith Collector
A lot depends also on how much $ will be thrown at BBD and Powe...
Like I've said already, another Eddie House.
Jr, Walker and this guy could end up replacing House, Tony Allen and Gabe Pruitt just nicely.
I assume a big man is coming via FA now we didn't draft size. Perk is one hug away from a career ending shoulder injury.
Jr, Walker and this guy could end up replacing House, Tony Allen and Gabe Pruitt just nicely.
I assume a big man is coming via FA now we didn't draft size. Perk is one hug away from a career ending shoulder injury.
ozballer23
#1 J.R. Smith Collector
So who do you think they'll sign chad? trade Allen for Amare maybe?
Trading for Amare is a risk with his body but can you imagine he alongside Perk and KG! It doesn't really fit the frontline though as all three aint a SF. Most trades have involved Rondo and getting a fair player back for Rondo and his potential is the hard part.
I can see JR and Bill Walker really developing this year though in Celts green rather than the D league just like BBD did. Good young core group of players despite with Laker fans think.
Perk
Rondo are already team USA type players
BBD
Powe are already proven and stand up
JR
Walker are both players and will have good careers
Marbury might be gone now with that pick if we sign him and want him to play and save cash. Not a big deal if JR contributes like I anticipate.
I'd say not wanting to trade Allen to an Eastern conf team is a sticking point. He being that extra vet on another foe isn't what we want even with a healthy KG and Powe back.
Amare might come in a package for BBD if Powe comes back alright. Scal is then expendible too with his expiring contract as well.
---------- Post added at 02:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:20 PM ----------
Anyone that doubts Ainge should note.
In the 50's we have drafted of late.
GOMES
BBD
POWE
I can see JR and Bill Walker really developing this year though in Celts green rather than the D league just like BBD did. Good young core group of players despite with Laker fans think.
Perk
Rondo are already team USA type players
BBD
Powe are already proven and stand up
JR
Walker are both players and will have good careers
Marbury might be gone now with that pick if we sign him and want him to play and save cash. Not a big deal if JR contributes like I anticipate.
I'd say not wanting to trade Allen to an Eastern conf team is a sticking point. He being that extra vet on another foe isn't what we want even with a healthy KG and Powe back.
Amare might come in a package for BBD if Powe comes back alright. Scal is then expendible too with his expiring contract as well.
---------- Post added at 02:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:20 PM ----------
Anyone that doubts Ainge should note.
In the 50's we have drafted of late.
GOMES
BBD
POWE
ozballer23
#1 J.R. Smith Collector
That would be the perfect scenario! Marbury still has something to offer imo, a full pre season with his team should see him build some confidence! Get him involved in the summer league!
Well Powe and BBD play the same role and spot. BBD added an outside shot but Powe is a better rebounder. I know this for sure, Powe is cheaper to keep and is their game that different to justify a great difference in salary.
What else do we need to get this deal done? Ray Allen as well but Amare and more coming?
What else do we need to get this deal done? Ray Allen as well but Amare and more coming?
ozballer23
#1 J.R. Smith Collector
I think the suns are trying to move some contracts, in particular barbossa, so maybe a deal that involves he and amare, for allen, bbd and future picks?