I would call that Fraud not a risk, sorry.
A true collector would not look at the value of the card but instead would want the card he redeemed to complete his collection.
Crikey d***.
Yes, it sucks that you didn't get a card you wanted for your collection.
Yes, it sucks that the auto is not perfect on the replacement you received.
Yes, it sucks that you can't appreciate the fact that they gave you a GOOD REPLACEMENT (which is more than a lot of people receive).
Yes, it sucks that you can continue to whinge in this thread but not reply to a PM asking you for more details about the card.
In summary, sucks.
LOL funny how EVERYONE, mods included, missed the simple but MAJOR issue that Ang had in the first place.... There might be a fair bit of One Eyed Panini bashing around on forums, but this forum has a lot of blinded Panini love and people don;t read the whole story, they just see red when some one, god forbid, has a problem with Panini!!!
Great card, Great replacement value wise, but CONSIDERING Ang and the CSM talked for 2 + months and the CSM TOLD Ang he had hand picked the card, knwing from 2 months worth of correspondence how Ang is with his cards, Panini have stuffed up...
Yes Ang could sell it for more and get some PC cards, but it does miss the point he is trying to make. Would I personally get as fired up as Ang and also Nick? Probably not but I certainly wouldn't ignore it straight off the bat.... And let's add in one more important part, Ang contacts the CSM, which he has done a heap by the sound of it, but get's ignored all of a sudden..? Come on guys, I know there is some unfair Panini bashing from time to time (**Raises hand up** I've done it!!) but some people on this site jump to their defense for no other reason then they are in the good books and get the right thing done by them all the time!!!!
Wasn't suppose to be a dig at anyone really, both you and Rhys always stick up for Panini, and with good reason, they have done a lot for this site and for collecting in general. I use to HATE panini, or at least the fact they were the only manufacturer....
Re reading my post, I can see how and why you took some of the things I have said the way you have... There was no real malice intended in them at all, was more trying to make the point that there is about the same amount of people on both sides of the Panini "bashing" these days... By NO WAY did I mean to accuse anyone of doing anything inappropriate or underhanded Matt, It was meant as in never having issues or having to go through anything like Ang has experienced, or anyone else that has had troubles or felt hard done by Panini. But again, I can see how you've taken those comments that way, I should have worded my post a lot better, just having the time to get on here is a hard one these days, for long enough to get involved in any conversations etc etc anyway, let alone having ages to think and type my reponses properly!..... MY apologises if thats the way you took it, I more included "even the Mods" as more of a point in the fact that EVERYONE had seemed to miss the point of Ang's frustrations!
Wasn't suppose to be a dig at anyone really, both you and Rhys always stick up for Panini, and with good reason, they have done a lot for this site and for collecting in general. I use to HATE panini, or at least the fact they were the only manufacturer....
Re reading my post, I can see how and why you took some of the things I have said the way you have... There was no real malice intended in them at all, was more trying to make the point that there is about the same amount of people on both sides of the Panini "bashing" these days... By NO WAY did I mean to accuse anyone of doing anything inappropriate or underhanded Matt, It was meant as in never having issues or having to go through anything like Ang has experienced, or anyone else that has had troubles or felt hard done by Panini. But again, I can see how you've taken those comments that way, I should have worded my post a lot better, just having the time to get on here is a hard one these days, for long enough to get involved in any conversations etc etc anyway, let alone having ages to think and type my reponses properly!..... MY apologises if thats the way you took it, I more included "even the Mods" as more of a point in the fact that EVERYONE had seemed to miss the point of Ang's frustrations!
O.k after having a re-read of this thread im starting to think im too picky
Let me just ask this question and please give an honest response.
Say you had a deal with a fellow member on lets say a Durant auto worth $800 you have wanted for your PC for a while. The guy you're buying off says sorry but I can't find the card but here I have an MJ auto with a SV of $1200 I can give you instead. You strike a deal and the MJ arrives and the auto is all pushed off the edge of the card. You try to PM the seller with no response. Do you leave the seller a negative feedback or give him a positive and go on with your life happy with your funky mj auto?
So Ang is a sucker for not asking Panini for pics of said card? I personally don't see a difference in situations just one is a multinational company.You are spot on here mate!
But it is apples and oranges!
If you do a trade like that without pictures, you desrve everything you get! hahaha
So Ang is a sucker for not asking Panini for pics of said card? I personally don't see a difference in situations just one is a multinational company.
matey sell the card buy a truck load of ud topps 90s boxes dont forget fleer live bust them on ozcards and still have money to buy some kfc for 2 weeks hahaha
seriously though its your decision bro if you want to sell the card and go to smorgys and buy a few griffins and walls sounds good to me too .
only thing i find crap is the panini guy should still communicate with ya and him not communicating with ya can leave a bad taste in ya mouth like bad burger king when you pay for a double whopper and they give ya a single and you are already home watching wwe raw unwrapping the prize and finding out its not what ya expected .
Negative!!!!!O.k after having a re-read of this thread im starting to think im too picky
Let me just ask this question and please give an honest response.
Say you had a deal with a fellow member on lets say a Durant auto worth $800 you have wanted for your PC for a while. The guy you're buying off says sorry but I can't find the card but here I have an MJ auto with a SV of $1200 I can give you instead with no mention of off card auto. You strike a deal and the MJ arrives and the auto is all pushed off the edge of the card. You try to PM the seller with no response. Do you leave the seller a negative feedback or give him a positive and go on with your life happy with your funky mj auto?
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