John Ireland Caricature Trading Cards - The Eagle Has Landed!
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nazimcricket
OzCardTrader
Not for me it isn't .... coming up very rapidly. If only I could get a few players on board, I'd go to print much sooner
nazimcricket
OzCardTrader
You and me both man
Hope I can do them justice with some good quality printing. Still not sure what to do with the reverse side of each card, whether to write a blurb and stats or leave it plain green. Design will be my biggest weakness, so will either need to find someone to donate their photoshop skills or pay for a graphic designer.
lukeedwardjohn
Gold Coast Titans Collector
You and me both man
Lucky theres a few graphic designers on the site then that im sure would lend a hand
nazimcricket
OzCardTrader
Lucky theres a few graphic designers on the site then that im sure would lend a hand
None have volunteered so far. Are you putting your hand up?
Naz, this is a great step forward - the dream is almost the reality hey?
Just an idea for the blurb (if you were going to do one instead of leaving it green) - as stats are such a "moving feast"' particularly due to the number of current players included, you could just have something like:
Name: Nazim
Teams: Australia, South Australia Redbacks, Melbourne Renegades, Surrey
First Class debut: 1994
Test Debut: 2003
ODI Debut: 2005
T20 Debut: 2010
Whch you could flog......borrow......off the cricinfo website or any Wisden.
Just an idea for the blurb (if you were going to do one instead of leaving it green) - as stats are such a "moving feast"' particularly due to the number of current players included, you could just have something like:
Name: Nazim
Teams: Australia, South Australia Redbacks, Melbourne Renegades, Surrey
First Class debut: 1994
Test Debut: 2003
ODI Debut: 2005
T20 Debut: 2010
Whch you could flog......borrow......off the cricinfo website or any Wisden.
lukeedwardjohn
Gold Coast Titans Collector
None have volunteered so far. Are you putting your hand up?
Haha seems a pretty big task but Im sure once a template is up it wont be too hard. Will see how we go in the coming future with work etc:
nazimcricket
OzCardTrader
Naz, this is a great step forward - the dream is almost the reality hey?
Just an idea for the blurb (if you were going to do one instead of leaving it green) - as stats are such a "moving feast"' particularly due to the number of current players included, you could just have something like:
Name: Nazim
Teams: Australia, South Australia Redbacks, Melbourne Renegades, Surrey
First Class debut: 1994
Test Debut: 2003
ODI Debut: 2005
T20 Debut: 2010
Whch you could flog......borrow......off the cricinfo website or any Wisden.
That's a brilliant idea. I also need to find the right type of Fonts to use for both the front and back. On the front, I'll probably just simply put the player's name and maybe a small logo - I'm thinking NCP (Nazim's Cricket Page) or something along those lines. Will need to run it past John Ireland though as he might like the front to only feature the caricature.
pineneedlebeetle
OzCardTrader
A super effort Naz.
You are a trooper and everyone here needs to get behind you once they are ready.
As stated am happy to buy multiple lots from you.
Can't wait to see what you eventually come up with funny guy.
Have a great weekend
regards as always
Russell
You are a trooper and everyone here needs to get behind you once they are ready.
As stated am happy to buy multiple lots from you.
Can't wait to see what you eventually come up with funny guy.
Have a great weekend
regards as always
Russell
nazimcricket
OzCardTrader
Thanks Russell. I'm still very fearful of ending up with a majority of 1000 sets unsold, but the signatures will help. I'll decide once they are done and dusted (nothing is sure until I have them in my possession) whether I'll sell them as part of the base set or sell the signature sets separately. Either way, looking forward to getting this thing beyond theory. The two players I have are absolute LEGENDS of the game, so hopefully won't go wrong!!
nazimcricket
OzCardTrader
Don't worry Russell, I am planning to get your signature. It won't be on a card but something quite similar ... maybe something simple like the transfer papers for your car or house ... nothing too fancy! lol
I've been thinking about the set and what form it will take etc. Let's face it, it's going to be a mammoth task for me to recoup my expenses and sell all 1000 sets, regardless of the level of support I receive on ozcardtrader. My initial thought was to randomly insert signature cards and hope that generates some sales, but what kills me is that the end result might be that genuine collectors may end up with a few sets but still no signature and the actual signature cards may go to someone with deep pockets and the desire to simply flip them for 3-4 times the original price. Kind of defeats the purpose for which I took on this project. I'm not Futera or even SEP, so I cannot afford to think like those guys as this is much much more than a commercial venture for me.
So my decision is. I'll sell the base set of approx. 45 cards plus a numbered header card for $35 each. The players who sign will NOT appear in the base set and the only way to get them would be to buy their signature card exclusively through me. I'm thinking a price of around $125 would not be unreasonable given the calibre of the players I've got on board and my outlay. The signature cards will be strictly limited to 100 of each player and any spares/smudged rejects etc I end up with will be labelled "Sample" and will not be sold or given out, to maintain the integrity and value of the original 100.
Thoughts/Comments/Feedback???
I haven't yet approached anyone on the 50 count plastic boxes/containers. Given they are cheap Chinese made items, I would not expect to pay much for them, especially since I need to buy 1000. If anyone can direct me to the best place to get them for as little as possible, I would appreciate it. Raj has given me one option on these, but I need to explore if there are other sellers of these out there. The less I pay, the less everyone else pays for these sets and signatures
I've been thinking about the set and what form it will take etc. Let's face it, it's going to be a mammoth task for me to recoup my expenses and sell all 1000 sets, regardless of the level of support I receive on ozcardtrader. My initial thought was to randomly insert signature cards and hope that generates some sales, but what kills me is that the end result might be that genuine collectors may end up with a few sets but still no signature and the actual signature cards may go to someone with deep pockets and the desire to simply flip them for 3-4 times the original price. Kind of defeats the purpose for which I took on this project. I'm not Futera or even SEP, so I cannot afford to think like those guys as this is much much more than a commercial venture for me.
So my decision is. I'll sell the base set of approx. 45 cards plus a numbered header card for $35 each. The players who sign will NOT appear in the base set and the only way to get them would be to buy their signature card exclusively through me. I'm thinking a price of around $125 would not be unreasonable given the calibre of the players I've got on board and my outlay. The signature cards will be strictly limited to 100 of each player and any spares/smudged rejects etc I end up with will be labelled "Sample" and will not be sold or given out, to maintain the integrity and value of the original 100.
Thoughts/Comments/Feedback???
I haven't yet approached anyone on the 50 count plastic boxes/containers. Given they are cheap Chinese made items, I would not expect to pay much for them, especially since I need to buy 1000. If anyone can direct me to the best place to get them for as little as possible, I would appreciate it. Raj has given me one option on these, but I need to explore if there are other sellers of these out there. The less I pay, the less everyone else pays for these sets and signatures
Mate I think you need to include the signatures in the sets as random inserts. Otherwise I can see you getting stuck with sets. 1000 is a shedload and an incentive to buy more than 1 would see you get these sold quicker IMO.
I'm not sure what you paying for each signature but I also think $125 might be a little ambitious for signatures of New Zealand cricket players. Remember your market is Australians and 100 is still a lot of cards.
Sorry if that feedback is a little brutal but there is a fine line between success and failure and we all want to see this succeed..........also your poor wife needs that new car!
I'm not sure what you paying for each signature but I also think $125 might be a little ambitious for signatures of New Zealand cricket players. Remember your market is Australians and 100 is still a lot of cards.
Sorry if that feedback is a little brutal but there is a fine line between success and failure and we all want to see this succeed..........also your poor wife needs that new car!
nazimcricket
OzCardTrader
Mate I think you need to include the signatures in the sets as random inserts. Otherwise I can see you getting stuck with sets. 1000 is a shedload and an incentive to buy more than 1 would see you get these sold quicker IMO.
I'm not sure what you paying for each signature but I also think $125 might be a little ambitious for signatures of New Zealand cricket players. Remember your market is Australians and 100 is still a lot of cards.
Sorry if that feedback is a little brutal but there is a fine line between success and failure and we all want to see this succeed..........also your poor wife needs that new car!
Brutal is good. As long as I'm getting feedback before it's too late. So, what price would you say would be reasonable for a set of 45 including a "potential" signature card? Really caught between two mindsets here. I can see myself stuck with a lot of sets regardless of which way I jump. I just don't have any insert cards other than the 200 signatures to entice people into buying multiples, so I started thinking if I keep a low price on the base set, the sales will hopefully remain steady and if I'm going to get stuck with anything, I'd rather it be the signatures!
Whats a reasonable price is a tough one to answer buddy as i dont know your input costs.
I see what your saying with signatures but i dont know what the magic answer is
. Here are some random thoughts.
1. Are you being over ambitious with 1,000 sets? I know you need to make your money back on them but are you going to get stuck with 500 and lose money anyway? Are you better off having less sets but charging a little more.
2. Do you need to have 2 sets? One containing a set of commons and signatures and one containing just the common set. First sets are numbered to 100 and the rest are numbered out of 900.
3. Instead of the common set being 45 cards do you make is (for example) 35 and have 10 "inserts" in their randomly to give the incentive to buy more than one common set.
4. Surely now you have these NZ cricketers on board you can find some aussies that will sign for you. Once again i think its a lot to pay for a signature card of a Kiwi.
My best suggestion might be for you to do some more market reseach. I would use something like survey monkey and put it on here for people to complete. It would help give you an idea of what people want and how much they may or may not pay for it.
I see what your saying with signatures but i dont know what the magic answer is
. Here are some random thoughts.1. Are you being over ambitious with 1,000 sets? I know you need to make your money back on them but are you going to get stuck with 500 and lose money anyway? Are you better off having less sets but charging a little more.
2. Do you need to have 2 sets? One containing a set of commons and signatures and one containing just the common set. First sets are numbered to 100 and the rest are numbered out of 900.
3. Instead of the common set being 45 cards do you make is (for example) 35 and have 10 "inserts" in their randomly to give the incentive to buy more than one common set.
4. Surely now you have these NZ cricketers on board you can find some aussies that will sign for you. Once again i think its a lot to pay for a signature card of a Kiwi.
My best suggestion might be for you to do some more market reseach. I would use something like survey monkey and put it on here for people to complete. It would help give you an idea of what people want and how much they may or may not pay for it.
nazimcricket
OzCardTrader
Whats a reasonable price is a tough one to answer buddy as i dont know your input costs.
I see what your saying with signatures but i dont know what the magic answer is
1. Are you being over ambitious with 1,000 sets? I know you need to make your money back on them but are you going to get stuck with 500 and lose money anyway? Are you better off having less sets but charging a little more.
2. Do you need to have 2 sets? One containing a set of commons and signatures and one containing just the common set. First sets are numbered to 100 and the rest are numbered out of 900.
3. Instead of the common set being 45 cards do you make is (for example) 35 and have 10 "inserts" in their randomly to give the incentive to buy more than one common set.
4. Surely now you have these NZ cricketers on board you can find some aussies that will sign for you. Once again i think its a lot to pay for a signature card of a Kiwi.
My best suggestion might be for you to do some more market reseach. I would use something like survey monkey and put it on here for people to complete. It would help give you an idea of what people want and how much they may or may not pay for it.
Some good ideas there bro. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. I'll mull over the next steps. At this stage, I've got 1 Aussie and 1 Kiwi - both Hall of Famers. Believe me, I've been trying my best to sign up some more and I will continue to do so until I'm ready to go to print. The problem I have is that the drawings are set in stone now, so I cannot really approach players that aren't already drawn up as John Ireland doesn't really want to do any more. Maybe I do need to convert more of the existing lot into Insert cards. The point you made about 100 common and signatures - isn't that the same as practically separating the signature cards and selling them for a higher price anyway?
