2014 ESP Elite info discussion thread (Flyer P22 - Checklist P41)

bomberknight said:

To The Names Gould.I don't know where you get your info from but as someone living in Newcastle and who goes to all Knights games home and away I can tell you a few facts about Darius Boyd.He has been our best player the last month and was no different to any other Knights player who was pissed off with the club when he wasn't being paid as im sure you would be as well if your employer wasn't paying you.And to say he refuses to do things is crap.The fact is since Tinkler took over we have not had one members or fans day except for the season launch.NIL NOUGHT ZERO.So besides the season launch which they ridicoulously held on a weekday when most people are at work there has been no other chance for him to do anything except for after the games and at training where he will sign anything and pose for photos and engage in conversation with supporters.So I suggest you get your facts right before you bag him.

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batboy said:

Well, when I go back to by a future force from 2001... Do I go back and check the ratios? No... No I don't!! In ten years time, the player, the team and the number of cards will dictate the price!! Nothing more, nothing less

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thenamesgould said:

Not wanting to derail the thread, but I read that here: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...nts-at-nrl-side-newcastle-20140517-zrfsq.html "It is understood that while Boyd has maintained all his on-field commitments, he has been left furious with his contractual wrangle. It is understood he has skipped club functions and is refusing to sign club jerseys, which players do after most training sessions. Boyd did not attend the club's season launch in February, with the club citing ''personal reasons'' behind his no-show." Sorry if I've been mislead by that article.

As for his performance, according to these stats: http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...s-greg-alexander/story-e6frf3su-1226918674266 he was the most poorly performing fullback in the competition this time last month ... admittedly he had a good game against Wests, but one good performance a month does not justify the amount of money he is paid imo, he should be doing a lot better. Just my opinion though.

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MarkTomo said:

I think what needs to be taken into consideration is the League Sensations were 1 per 3 boxes. Select redemptions were 1 per case (minimum 10 boxes per case, some more). Although the print run on the LS were quite small there were a minimum 3 times the hits with them.

Forgetting the individual players and just looking at the Select sigs and ESP sigs collectively there were 400 redemption sigs (100 each I think) in the Dynasty run. The LS run was 2080 (16 players x 130).

In my opinion there's your price difference. Like Aron said they started at around $250 but I don't think they were ever worth anywhere near that.

In saying that I think I paid close to $200 for a GI from memory. Ha

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