The Official 2017 ESP/TLA NRL TRADERS thread. (Some new signing images added)

Brendan_B said:
2 signatures?

Broncos definitely have two, SAS and Tallis legends and it wouldn't surprise me to see the Cows get the second SAS as if they are consistent with last year the extra two SAS were both younger players from a Sydney based club and a non Sydney.
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Maybe the second Sig might be Kayln Ponga from the Cows
 
Brendan_B said:
Just a few quick questions based on release numbers, hopefully someone can help.

I am assuming that this is is an 1800 case release (21, 600 boxes) and I base this on the SAS authentic signatures being 1 per case.

How come there are only 325 case cards? This equates to only 650 cases.

Obviously a portion of the stock goes to album and starter packs. I cannot recall specifically but was there 2000 albums and 1100 starter packs last year? This would account for 7300 packets about 600 cases.

So this leaves 550 cases without a case card or is there another surprise we are not aware of yet? Alternately is it just the dealer cases that have case cards?

I really hope that the cases aren't stacked like they obviously were last year, I feel this really affects the overall market value in a negative manner.
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Re reading this thread and if the 1800 case estimate is right any I agree that looks like the number because of the simple SAS signature maths then it appears that with 2 x 208 Legend sigs that will mean less than one Legend signature in 4 cases and Dynamic Duos less than 1 in 3 cases

I was toying with the idea of buying a case for something to do but those odds have certainly put me off buying a case as there will be some absolute duds out there with at least 1 in 3 cases (actually much closer to 1 in 2) without a Legend sig or a Dynamic duo and imagine the odds if we start to see some of the early busts include both a Legend sig and Dynamic Duo................

Am I right in thinking this? Thoughts?

Ross
 
hobo said:
Re reading this thread and if the 1800 case estimate is right any I agree that looks like the number because of the simple SAS signature maths then it appears that with 2 x 208 Legend sigs that will mean less than one Legend signature in 4 cases and Dynamic Duos less than 1 in 3 cases

I was toying with the idea of buying a case for something to do but those odds have certainly put me off buying a case as there will be some absolute duds out there with at least 1 in 3 cases (actually much closer to 1 in 2) without a Legend sig or a Dynamic duo and imagine the odds if we start to see some of the early busts include both a Legend sig and Dynamic Duo................

Am I right in thinking this? Thoughts?

Ross
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There are 908 cards between Duo and Leg Sigs so 1 in 2 should have either one ....

There are 2 case cards design each limited to 325 cards per design all cards individually numbered ... With only 650 dealer cases available with a numbered case card that could be interesting for the cases as well .....
 
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Battingticks84 said:
It seems like they overproduce for this set especially when there were less than 700 elite cases, if I'm not mistaken.
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Elite is designed to be a much more limited set with better content for more hardcore collectors, while Traders is angled more towards everybody, and is made much more available.

A large market of the Traders and Power Play sets are kids, so if they don't make those sets widely available and easier for kids to find in-store then they lose a lot of the market for those releases.
 
Fair call. I actually didn't see a single pack of Elite for sale in a shop between about 6 places that sell Traders. So it makes sense to make them available for kids, as you said.
 
Diggaz TC said:
I never saw a case with both a Legend and Duo in it last year.
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redtorana said:
The cases marked of 200 last year had 2 Duo cards or Duo and a Legend Signature card in the case ...Yes the Duo was a case card but it still had both in the case ....
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Diggaz TC said:
True. I should have said out of the Boxes.
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So you'd be a mug buying retail? If they repeat last years 400 case hits in 200 cases that leaves 1600 cases with 500 case hits meaning 2 out of 3 cases will be duds.
 
Battingticks84 said:
It seems like they overproduce for this set especially when there were less than 700 elite cases, if I'm not mistaken.
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The quantity is more about hitting the minimum guarantee that is in place with the NRL for the licence to produce cards.....if it wasn't so high, we could see more limited releases......but in reality, a lot of stock has to be made and hopefully sold to meet the minimum guarantee.
 
hobo said:
So you'd be a mug buying retail? If they repeat last years 400 case hits in 200 cases that leaves 1600 cases with 500 case hits meaning 2 out of 3 cases will be duds.
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The Roosters/Dragons Duo was effectively a Case Card. Only 3 Duos came out of packs. This year all 5 Duos are pack inserts. In theory, that should increase the amount of Cases with "Case hits".
 
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