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bas · Jun 22, 2007

this new member has a lot of malone inserts i need 4 my pc but he wants equal value in good gu cards for them, 4 instance 1 of them is 95 ultra usa bv $20(overpriced and would sell 4 crumbs on ebay) anyway they add up 2 almost $180 for 25 km inserts so he's just tryin 2 bleed me dry, NOT HAPPENEING!!!

Dr. Curlytek · Jun 22, 2007

Should there maybe be some sort of 'price conversion chart' for trades...ie:

TV of auto = 1.5 (TV of patch) = 2 (TV of jersey) = 2.5 (TV of insert) = 3 (TV of base)

Is this really the sort of thread we need on Ozcards? It is fairly common to trade BV for BV, there certainly aren't any written rules when it comes to type of card. I've had deals that I don't agree with, I say "no thanks" and move on. I don't think this type of flaming is necessary.

ace e · Jun 22, 2007

very interesting topic, when i started i only had base and inserts and i didnt understand why i couldnt get a trade bv for bv.
If you really need some cards sacrifices do need to be made and as DR C said if you dont like whats on offer you just say no thanks.

Even though BV is not respected by a lot of people it is the only fixed value i think to trade cards as ebay fluctuates.

asdt · Jun 23, 2007

I agree Beckett can be a good guide, and it definitely simplifies things. But yeah, it shouldn't come down to value exclusively. Like, I'd much rather my Marion auto (12 bucks) than a Dajuan Wagner / Jamaal Tinsley dual jersey (25 bucks). And I'd much rather that Wagner / Tinsley dual jersey than a big stack of Tinsley and Wagner RCs.

ScottE · Jun 23, 2007

I can see both sides. What I try and do is if I'm trading an auto I want an auto and same with GU cards and inserts. I don't think it works when your doing inserts for GU cards or auto's.
Hope that makes sense and helps.

WoobieZarz · Jun 23, 2007

Sometimes people try to get more bang for their buck when it comes to Player Collectors....

Ja$e · Jun 23, 2007

Depends how rare it is to find the insert/base that you need? I have no problem trading for MJ's that I need for GU/Auto etc. Depends if oyu're willing to or not!

hads182 · Jun 23, 2007

I'm only on my 2nd day here, and I would have thought rough BV would be fair. If its for a card I don't care about, I might aswell swap it for another card I don't care about and help out a fellow collector. That's what i reckon....

wolvesjr34 · Jun 23, 2007

The fact is, if you have in mind what you want for something or what you're willing to pay/trade for something that's your right and your position. Some people are open to negotiation and others aren't.

I will say though, I don't even worry about BV... I mean if the person I am trading with has a concern then yes I will try find the value of what I have etc... but for me it's about getting what I need. Yes if I have a rare card, I might try and get a decent deal for it... but I wouldn't ask for BV on common inserts... rare inserts may be..... but that is not to say it is not the right of someone else to want BV... it is that diversity that makes the hobby so great... and frustrating at times.

That's just my two cents (or BV $20US) .

Moses · Jun 23, 2007

hads182 said:
I'm only on my 2nd day here, and I would have thought rough BV would be fair. If its for a card I don't care about, I might aswell swap it for another card I don't care about and help out a fellow collector. That's what i reckon....

That's the Ozcards spirit.

Mr Kevin Garnett · Jun 23, 2007

Fairest way is to trade by looking at eBay value (What they go for on eBay)

No one in their right mind would trade 3 Jordan Autos for a Unbordered Mystery finest Refractor Shaq BV $2000 for example.

bas · Jun 23, 2007

thats my way of thinking 2, i could just trade my km dual patch bv 60 and bdiddy extra exq not priced dts say bv 80 and give $40 cash for 25 kmalone inserts i need but would rather not, offered this person $120 u.s bv in gu but they kept sayin i want the best deal i can get

gemz23 · Jun 23, 2007

bas said:
thats my way of thinking 2, i could just trade my km dual patch bv 60 and bdiddy extra exq not priced dts say bv 80 and give $40 cash for 25 kmalone inserts i need but would rather not, offered this person $120 u.s bv in gu but they kept sayin i want the best deal i can get

25 malone inserts for a dual patch,exquisite jersey and $40 dollars. btw how much total bv for those malone inserts? whats the rarest and highest bv in those inserts?

bas · Jun 23, 2007

there r a couple of rare 1's like 96 sky golden touch and 96 sky usa gold but they r the rarest, like i posted b4 95 ultra usa basketball bv 20 u.s, could trade it straight 4 the mj gu floor but would rather give cards away to people i like then get ripped off

hads182 · Jun 23, 2007

Things are rare to people for different reasons. Ebay does not really indicatde a fair price, the prices vary auction to auction pending on seller, time and display. You can see hundred dollar differences for the same card sometimes. Atleast BV is straight down the line... And if I wanted the Shaq bad enough, it would be see you later Jordan Auto's. Not that I'd do that but probably some serious Shaq fan would....

Mr Kevin Garnett · Jun 23, 2007

Thats true too.
The value of a card can be different from one person to another.

I usually look at completed auctions and average the price out.

bas · Jun 23, 2007

i just don't like it when some1 tries 2 rip u because u r a player collector, knowing that chances r only a player collector is gonna want them so y ask so much 4 them unless u r trying 2 bleed it

Ja$e · Jun 23, 2007

bas said:
i just don't like it when some1 tries 2 rip u because u r a player collector, knowing that chances r only a player collector is gonna want them so y ask so much 4 them unless u r trying 2 bleed it

Just tell them don't worry about it. He'll either come at you with a better deal at your end or he won't and you can hit him up again later without losing anything I guess?

bas · Jun 23, 2007

pretty much have done that know

wolvesjr34 · Jun 23, 2007

Yeah I'd leave it alone... cos if some guy with Loads of Riders came at me and tried to charge me an arm and a leg I'd tell him to get stuffed... cos like It's Rider man not Shaq LOL I'd only bleed for a 1/1 lol

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