PS3 NBA2K13 Online Association

[jimboiitmac]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

Wow! Serious much?

LOL!

Well it's not a huge game-plan, it only took me about 10 seconds to formulate it.

Clicked onto Verse's Memphis Team to see who he had. Concluded Westbrook and Ellis need to be stopped, no major inside forces.

And there you have it. Force Westbrook and Ellis to shoot tough jumpers = The Game-Plan.

Just like how you try and contain my guys from getting into the lane when we play.


---------- Post added 02-07-2010 at 06:30 PM ----------

i was thinking the same thing. I don't get that into it to be honest, i just play each game thats in front of me and hope for the best.

You on anytime soon Jimbo? Im home from work early so hit me up man

But funnily enough you were the one making coaching adjustments and double team/pressure adjustments to strategically defend my guys

Everyone makes a plan.

 

[Verse1]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

LOL!

Well it's not a huge game-plan, it only took me about 10 seconds to formulate it.

Clicked onto Verse's Memphis Team to see who he had. Concluded Westbrook and Ellis need to be stopped, no major inside forces.

And there you have it. Force Westbrook and Ellis to shoot tough jumpers = The Game-Plan.

Just like how you try and contain my guys from getting into the lane when we play.


---------- Post added 02-07-2010 at 06:30 PM ----------



But funnily enough you were the one making coaching adjustments and double team/pressure adjustments to strategically defend my guys

Everyone makes a plan.

Each game as it comes Jimbo, i honestly don't think about what the match ups etc are going to be till the game is starting. Thats only the second time i've actually changed any of the coaching settings for a game. Not that it mattered much Gay still blows by everyone on my team so it was fruitless anyway.

 

[jimboiitmac]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

I just dropped 2 against Jimbo, not surprising really as Gay just shakes loose from any defender then its either an open shot or dunk and i don't have the size to do anything defensively against any of his team.
Looks like this ones done and dusted

The first game was terrible on both sides defensively. The second much better defensively and an old-fashioned slug-fest.

Look I'm primarily a swingman-type gamer on 2K10. I've already tried to adapt my game a bit to please people, and I am using the mid-range and perimeter much more.

Gay was unstoppable but I won't apologize for that. If you look at the point distribution he's scoring in a variety of ways. Can't please everyone and still have fun playing yourself.

Jefferson has been beasting it too, 14.5 PPG and 11 RPG through both games.

But yes there are some mis-matches for both teams, your backcourt is strong but your frontcourt is a bit lacking. I'm doing my best to keep Westy and Ellis out of the paint and turn them into jump-shooters. I killed you on the break in the first game too, 22-0 is the difference in fast break points!

---------- Post added 02-07-2010 at 06:47 PM ----------

Each game as it comes Jimbo, i honestly don't think about what the match ups etc are going to be till the game is starting. Thats only the second time i've actually changed any of the coaching settings for a game. Not that it mattered much Gay still blows by everyone on my team so it was fruitless anyway.

Yeah I just got the feeling that you and Ben were subtly trying to make it seem like I take this too seriously. But ah well, each to their own. What can I say. I'm a competitive guy

 

[Verse1]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

The first game was terrible on both sides defensively. The second much better defensively and an old-fashioned slug-fest.

Look I'm primarily a swingman-type gamer on 2K10. I've already tried to adapt my game a bit to please people, and I am using the mid-range and perimeter much more.

Gay was unstoppable but I won't apologize for that. If you look at the point distribution he's scoring in a variety of ways. Can't please everyone and still have fun playing yourself.

Jefferson has been beasting it too, 14.5 PPG and 11 RPG through both games.

But yes there are some mis-matches for both teams, your backcourt is strong but your frontcourt is a bit lacking. I'm doing my best to keep Westy and Ellis out of the paint and turn them into jump-shooters. I killed you on the break in the first game too, 22-0 is the difference in fast break points!

I am too (a swingman type player) thats why i've struggled with this team, all good though mate you're dominating me in every way

 

[jimboiitmac]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

I am too (a swingman type player) thats why i've struggled with this team, all good though mate you're dominating me in every way

Yeah that's why I struggled in the beginning of the season in Zel's league. Derrick Rose was my main guy but my swingmen I couldn't get any of their shots (S-Jax, Ben Gordon etc).

We usually have quite competitive games. When playing ability is similar and the rosters are vastly different it makes for a hard contest.

---------- Post added 02-07-2010 at 06:58 PM ----------

By the way may have solved the riddle of Zel's team. I went into NBA and Season Awards in the playoffs menu and for some weird reason all Zel's players were featured?!

MVP and DPOY - Elton Brand
Most Improved - Nate Robinson
All-NBA First Team - His starting 5

It was quite bizarre. Another 2K glitch? Then it froze up as I tried to get back to the previous menu's ahah.

 

[arzbar]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

^
i noticed that!
and my game froze up as well!
the 2k ghost has struck again :O
haha

 

[nenjabin]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

I didn't think I was all that subtle...I thought I simply said that you were serious Each to there own. You take it seriously, I play for fun and I guess so does Nick. Sure I'm competitive, which is why I was a little sour after our last game, but I'm in it for the fun

That would be why I keep jacking up triples even when they're not dropping (as you keep alluding to). I like the 3, I enjoy the 3, I enjoy the open man and shooting when I am open, I enjoy kicking it round. If I lose because of it, cause it's not dropping, so be it! I'm having fun and I'll never resort to cheesing it inside just to get a victory. If the shots there, I'll take it! Sure some games I score inside more than usual when I'm rusty, but I don't force it inside, I just hit the open man when I can. I'm like Nick, each game as it comes. Even in our last game I started with my usual Man on Man in the 1st, but quickly realised that locking down the inside was what was needed, hence my D change...and only change of the game!

All I know is, I think I'd love AJs XBox leagues where the rules are only 50% in the paint at most and fast breaks are not allowed to be finished in the paint unless off a steal/turnover. Off the rebound the break must be finished outside the paint! Reckon those are 2 pretty sound rules really

Oh, and I tried a practice match with Zel earlier so he could look at his team...and it actually failed to start after it got past the line-ups page...which has NEVER happened before with any game. I don't think he can even start a game with that team, the same way everything locks up when we see the glitch pages...

 

[jimboiitmac]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

I didn't think I was all that subtle...I thought I simply said that you were serious Each to there own. You take it seriously, I play for fun and I guess so does Nick. Sure I'm competitive, which is why I was a little sour after our last game, but I'm in it for the fun

That would be why I keep jacking up triples even when they're not dropping (as you keep alluding to). I like the 3, I enjoy the 3, I enjoy the open man and shooting when I am open, I enjoy kicking it round. If I lose because of it, cause it's not dropping, so be it! I'm having fun and I'll never resort to cheesing it inside just to get a victory. If the shots there, I'll take it! Sure some games I score inside more than usual when I'm rusty, but I don't force it inside, I just hit the open man when I can. I'm like Nick, each game as it comes. Even in our last game I started with my usual Man on Man in the 1st, but quickly realised that locking down the inside was what was needed, hence my D change...and only change of the game!

All I know is, I think I'd love AJs XBox leagues where the rules are only 50% in the paint at most and fast breaks are not allowed to be finished in the paint unless off a steal/turnover. Off the rebound the break must be finished outside the paint! Reckon those are 2 pretty sound rules really

Oh, and I tried a practice match with Zel earlier so he could look at his team...and it actually failed to start after it got past the line-ups page...which has NEVER happened before with any game. I don't think he can even start a game with that team, the same way everything locks up when we see the glitch pages...

Ah well. Maybe it's cause I'm younger than you. I have less to do with my time at the moment

Haha yeah well I don't resort to putting it inside in order to win. That's where your biggest error in judgment is. You assume that I only take it inside because I want to win. Hell no - that's just the first playing style I adopted when I first played NBA Live 2004 which has carried through. Just like how you said "i enjoy the 3, i like the 3" I enjoy slashing to the paint. That's fun for me. Everyone else just needs to get over it.

The rule of thumb for the league that's been laid down is no more than 80% points in the paint. If you aren't breaking that rule then play the game.

Besides. I think it's just as annoying that some players dribble around the 3 point arc till the defender takes a step back and shoot it. Also like when you run into a crowd hoping the defense will double team and so then you kick it out and miraculously one of players is open for a 3. All the same in my book.

I think J_Keefy's post a few pages back sums it up best.

Really, who cares about ratings and "experiences?" Its a damn video game, and if you find a way to win then good on you.
If you carry your team with one player, or one move, or one style - you'll get found out at the end, and thats why the best players have other assets that win them games.

And if you can't defend one style of play, shame on you

Also those rules for the XBox leagues are bogus. What would happen in real life. "OH your team scored more than 50% in the paint and despite the fact that the opposition couldn't defend you well you are automatically forfeiting the game"

Fast breaks aren't allowed to be finished in the paint?? This sounds like mixed basketball where the men aren't allowed to score in the key in the 1st half for fear of not giving the girls a fair chance. Besides each player is given different ratings. There's a reason why Rudy Gay has an 88 dunk rating and only a 70 3 point rating.

 

[greengoblin]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

so what do i do guys do i try and play with the team that popped up drom nowhere or can this be fixed??

 

[Big Ticket]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

hey, u guys reached the finals yet? i'v been tuning in a lot lately to this thread, have u got a 2k website?

 

[Verse1]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

Also those rules for the XBox leagues are bogus. What would happen in real life. "OH your team scored more than 50% in the paint and despite the fact that the opposition couldn't defend you well you are automatically forfeiting the game"

So Rudy Gay running around and breaking free from every defender in the league is realistic?
I think me and Ben have a very similar game playing style so i guess its why we agree on alot of things when it comes to your game Jimbo

I have a big hate for running around with one player till he breaks free then taking a shot, Swish did this alot earlier in his league days and to me that constitutes cheesing.
I have no issue with your playing style overall Jimbo other than when Gay or Tmac get the ball are covered sometimes by 2 defenders then they start doing all the behind the back/crossovers/shimy's/drive then come off then drive again untill you get free for a shot and then take it and score. There is nothing more annoying to me then playing against that style of play. Im not having a go at you at all Jimbo i just find it unsportsman like having to contend with that stuff.

 

[Diggaz TC]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

hey, u guys reached the finals yet? i'v been tuning in a lot lately to this thread, have u got a 2k website?

Link to website is above me Sig. Playoffs everyone is talking about atm is Season 2 link.

I'll take a look at Zel's team now and see if there is anyway i can reset it???

 

[wiz1983]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

hey, u guys reached the finals yet? i'v been tuning in a lot lately to this thread, have u got a 2k website?

Big Ticket... You got a PS3 & NBA 2K10?

 

[nenjabin]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

Ah well. Maybe it's cause I'm younger than you. I have less to do with my time at the moment

Haha yeah well I don't resort to putting it inside in order to win. That's where your biggest error in judgment is. You assume that I only take it inside because I want to win. Hell no - that's just the first playing style I adopted when I first played NBA Live 2004 which has carried through. Just like how you said "i enjoy the 3, i like the 3" I enjoy slashing to the paint. That's fun for me. Everyone else just needs to get over it.

The rule of thumb for the league that's been laid down is no more than 80% points in the paint. If you aren't breaking that rule then play the game.

Besides. I think it's just as annoying that some players dribble around the 3 point arc till the defender takes a step back and shoot it. Also like when you run into a crowd hoping the defense will double team and so then you kick it out and miraculously one of players is open for a 3. All the same in my book.

I think J_Keefy's post a few pages back sums it up best.



Also those rules for the XBox leagues are bogus. What would happen in real life. "OH your team scored more than 50% in the paint and despite the fact that the opposition couldn't defend you well you are automatically forfeiting the game"

Fast breaks aren't allowed to be finished in the paint?? This sounds like mixed basketball where the men aren't allowed to score in the key in the 1st half for fear of not giving the girls a fair chance. Besides each player is given different ratings. There's a reason why Rudy Gay has an 88 dunk rating and only a 70 3 point rating.

Oh I hear you with the old style NBA games! I used to cheese the paint hard, particularly in NBA Live 98-2005, but Live 2006 brought in the "Superstar" special abilities, and I latched onto Reggie, Korver and all the triple shooters with the quick release

Oh, and I agree with Nick also on your game Jimbo. I have no problem with your game as a whole. Like I said the other day, it was only the last quarter that I really questioned. I know you enjoy the slashing, and that's fine, I agree with Nick that it's the method in which it can be done...like the many many dribble moves until finally the drive is available, and the setting the pick and roll multiple times on the 1 play til it works, or on multiple plays in a row. But when it's all varied and such, I'm cool with it. Different styles, can't all be like me!

 

[jimboiitmac]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

So Rudy Gay running around and breaking free from every defender in the league is realistic?
I think me and Ben have a very similar game playing style so i guess its why we agree on alot of things when it comes to your game Jimbo

I have a big hate for running around with one player till he breaks free then taking a shot, Swish did this alot earlier in his league days and to me that constitutes cheesing.
I have no issue with your playing style overall Jimbo other than when Gay or Tmac get the ball are covered sometimes by 2 defenders then they start doing all the behind the back/crossovers/shimy's/drive then come off then drive again untill you get free for a shot and then take it and score. There is nothing more annoying to me then playing against that style of play. Im not having a go at you at all Jimbo i just find it unsportsman like having to contend with that stuff.

First of all I have no problem with either of you (Nicko or Ben) obviously as we all get along. The following is constructive discussion:

For you to compare me to Swish is ludicrous. He called an isolation EVERY SINGLE PLAY then went to the ring for a slam. You are over-exaggerating. I have already opened up my game a lot more and use pick and rolls to come off for mid-range jumpers and even pull up from mid-range.

Besides I find you guys to be hypocritical. No some of the moves I do with my swingmen is not realistic, but neither is the way you guys get your jump-shots.

You pride yourselves so much that you don't score in the paint and you hit jumpers. But in the process of hitting those jumpers you dance around just as much as I do when I try to get to the ring.

Our last few games are a perfect example. Jose Calderon, Westbrook and Monta Ellis dance around the perimeter and wait till my guy jumps or moves slightly too much to either side, then you take your jumper. It's not like you are executing plays to get wide-open jump-shots, you move your players around just as much.

You're obviously better at shooting than me, but you have your tactics to get your open shots. We all do (have tactics that enable us to succeed).

---------- Post added 03-07-2010 at 12:28 AM ----------

EDIT* - Quick update. Took G1&G2 on the road in Memphis. Came back to Utah and split the pair. Jazz lead Grizzlies 3-1. Next game in Memphis.

 

[Verse1]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

You pride yourselves so much that you don't score in the paint and you hit jumpers. But in the process of hitting those jumpers you dance around just as much as I do when I try to get to the ring.

Our last few games are a perfect example. Jose Calderon, Westbrook and Monta Ellis dance around the perimeter and wait till my guy jumps or moves slightly too much to either side, then you take your jumper. It's not like you are executing plays to get wide-open jump-shots, you move your players around just as much.

You're obviously better at shooting than me, but you have your tactics to get your open shots. We all do (have tactics that enable us to succeed).

I was waiting for you to mention that, did you notice me do it in the first 3 games we played? Nope because i didn't do it and lost, come game 4 i decided to use your methods and just have a mess around and guess what? I won
I guess i'll be using these tactics again to see what happens

Oh i wouldn't mind a rematch now since i gave you 4 in a row when you were on your winning run

 

[jimboiitmac]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

I was waiting for you to mention that, did you notice me do it in the first 3 games we played? Nope because i didn't do it and lost, come game 4 i decided to use your methods and just have a mess around and guess what? I won
I guess i'll be using these tactics again to see what happens

Oh i wouldn't mind a rematch now since i gave you 4 in a row when you were on your winning run

Ahh I actually did notice you do it in the first 3 games but whatever, must be a difference in opinion. Good win in Game 4 though, the lead was around 5-7 points for most of the game, I should have attacked the paint a bit more. I had no sense of urgency so pulled back a few times when I could have stretched it.

No worries - I'll have to close it out in Memphis

And I would play but I've got to be up at 8AM to go to the Hunter Valley, so I'll need some sleep. Also my eyes are a bit square after playing 4 online games and 2 association games today

 

[Verse1]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

Ahh I actually did notice you do it in the first 3 games but whatever, must be a difference in opinion. Good win in Game 4 though, the lead was around 5-7 points for most of the game, I should have attacked the paint a bit more. I had no sense of urgency so pulled back a few times when I could have stretched it.

No worries - I'll have to close it out in Memphis

And I would play but I've got to be up at 8AM to go to the Hunter Valley, so I'll need some sleep. Also my eyes are a bit square after playing 4 online games and 2 association games today

Did you check the game shot map after the game? I don't think it was possible to go the paint anymore than you did

Looks like i'll have to try sort you out some other time then

 

[jimboiitmac]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

Did you check the game shot map after the game? I don't think it was possible to go the paint anymore than you did

Looks like i'll have to try sort you out some other time then

Yeah I meant on the break. A couple times I pulled it back. Too busy trying to please you with mid-range jump shots

Back to my excessive cheesing in Game 5. Time to close it out

 

[nenjabin]

Re: PS3 NBA2K10 Online Season

First of all I have no problem with either of you (Nicko or Ben) obviously as we all get along. The following is constructive discussion:

For you to compare me to Swish is ludicrous. He called an isolation EVERY SINGLE PLAY then went to the ring for a slam. You are over-exaggerating. I have already opened up my game a lot more and use pick and rolls to come off for mid-range jumpers and even pull up from mid-range.

Besides I find you guys to be hypocritical. No some of the moves I do with my swingmen is not realistic, but neither is the way you guys get your jump-shots.

You pride yourselves so much that you don't score in the paint and you hit jumpers. But in the process of hitting those jumpers you dance around just as much as I do when I try to get to the ring.

Our last few games are a perfect example. Jose Calderon, Westbrook and Monta Ellis dance around the perimeter and wait till my guy jumps or moves slightly too much to either side, then you take your jumper. It's not like you are executing plays to get wide-open jump-shots, you move your players around just as much.

You're obviously better at shooting than me, but you have your tactics to get your open shots. We all do (have tactics that enable us to succeed).

---------- Post added 03-07-2010 at 12:28 AM ----------

EDIT* - Quick update. Took G1&G2 on the road in Memphis. Came back to Utah and split the pair. Jazz lead Grizzlies 3-1. Next game in Memphis.

I have never had that problem with Swish. Yes, he liked the isolation, but it was never every play against me, and wasn't again just the other day in a practice match with him. He gets white line fever a little like you at times, but otherwise plays a very well balanced inside outside game. I was never comparing you to him though in any respect good or bad.

As for the jumpers, I do admit that I move around a little, just like any players do in the nba trying to take people off the dribble for open looks. Not my problem if your finger gets itchy and you hit the jump button leaving me open! I have the same tendancy guarding the perimeter though, my finger gets a mind of it's own and guys are jumping up and down all round the place

However, you have me all wrong with dancing around. 1 of my perhaps largest offensive weaknesses is....well I don't know ANY dribble moves in this game. None. I don't switch my controller configuration like Nick, and you? to make triangle "spin" and make the buttons more easy for dribble moves. I don't use hesitation and I very rarely use the L2 button at all, except taking it to the hole (I slowly learnt that!). So there is no way that I dance around looking for shots. You'll also find I don't shake loose for drives and such either all that often simply because I can't.

So call me hypocritical if you like, but I fail to see how hitting the open man and then jumper is worse than utilising the games defensive short falls against dribble moves (designed specifically for shaking the D) and then utilising the games relative ease of scoring inside.

Either way, like I said, I don't have a problem with your game as a whole Jimbo! I'll say it again, the first 3 quarters of our game the other day I barely had a peep of annoyance! It was simply some of those other traits used in the last quarter that were only sparingly used in the previous quarters (because as you said yourself, when the game is on the line you get that rush of blood and change your all round game for the sake of winning) that had me crying foul.

If you like, I'll try forcing it inside more if you don't like the way I get some of my jumpshot looks

BTW, nice series you guys are having. I'll hopefully get some games against John today and we'll start to see who will progress there.