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As is Bennett but his a 'waste of a pick' apparently. Does that made Bargnani a waste of a signing?
you're not serious are you. Trying to promote yourself as a sports writer and you come out with this crap. Bennett and Bargnani are completely different players, different roles and are different for many reasons (many even in favour of Bennett).

Since you compared them, after 5 games -
Barg - 23.7 mins, 12pts, 3.2 rebs, 1 ast, 2.2 TO, 0.4 stls, 1 blk
Bennett - 11.2 mins, 0.8pts,2.8 rebs, 0.2 ast, 0.2 TO, 1 stls, 0.3 blk

and since Barg is playing more minutes let's compare per 48 minutes
Barg - 24.3 pts, 6.5 rebs, 2 ast, 4.5 TO, 0.8 stls, 2 blk
Bennett - 3.9pts, 11.7 rebs, 0.7ast, 0.7 TO, 4.3 stls, 1.4blk

Right now the Cavs would be laughing to have Bargnani coming off the bench instead of Bennett.

The point Jaames was making is not that he is 5 games in or not that he is on a new team but
He is 5 games into a season with a new team where he is down in the pecking order ball wise. I'm sure it will take him awhile to adjust. No other player will ever have big numbers for the Knicks while Melo and Chandler are playing
He's in a position where is not getting the touches he got previously, he will have to figure out his role and how he is going to get his points. (yes the same could apply to Bennett but Bargnani is doing a hell of a better job - so far.)

You don't need to reply - we've already heard all the Bennett/Cavs excuses from you and as I said before I hope he comes good, there is obviously a reason he was picked number one and there is obviously talent there, seems mentally is his biggest issue right now. Going 1-20 cannot be good. If anything he needs to go to the d-league and get some confidence (problem with that is it can also be pretty devastating)


And I'm definitely not saying he is a waste of a pick, but I am quite sure that Cavs execs are worried by his form and are desperately hoping he lives up to potential.

Is Bargnani a waste of a signing - no, he is doing exactly the job he was signed for.
 
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you're not serious are you. Trying to promote yourself as a sports writer and you come out with this crap. Bennett and Bargnani are completely different players, different roles and are different for many reasons (many even in favour of Bennett).

Since you compared them, after 5 games -
Barg - 23.7 mins, 12pts, 3.2 rebs, 1 ast, 2.2 TO, 0.4 stls, 1 blk
Bennett - 11.2 mins, 0.8pts,2.8 rebs, 0.2 ast, 0.2 TO, 1 stls, 0.3 blk

and since Barg is playing more minutes let's compare per 48 minutes
Barg - 24.3 pts, 6.5 rebs, 2 ast, 4.5 TO, 0.8 stls, 2 blk
Bennett - 3.9pts, 11.7 rebs, 0.7ast, 0.7 TO, 4.3 stls, 1.4blk

Right now the Cavs would be laughing to have Bargnani coming off the bench instead of Bennett.

The point Jaames was making is not that he is 5 games in or not that he is on a new team but

He's in a position where is not getting the touches he got previously, he will have to figure out his role and how he is going to get his points. (yes the same could apply to Bennett but Bargnani is doing a hell of a better job - so far.)

You don't need to reply - we've already heard all the Bennett/Cavs excuses from you and as I said before I hope he comes good, there is obviously a reason he was picked number one and there is obviously talent there, seems mentally is his biggest issue right now. Going 1-20 cannot be good. If anything he needs to go to the d-league and get some confidence (problem with that is it can also be pretty devastating)


And I'm definitely not saying he is a waste of a pick, but I am quite sure that Cavs execs are worried by his form and are desperately hoping he lives up to potential.

Is Bargnani a waste of a signing - no, he is doing exactly the job he was signed for.

what do you mean this crap? i have an opinion as does everyone, no need to go out and attack other peoples opinion just because you don't agree. (and yes a bit of sarcasm was intended by that post i made.) i just don't understand how when I say Bennett has gotten off to a rough start because his adjusting to a different game or when i say Bennett is having a rough start because he hasn't played this role before etc, it gets called excuses or this or that etc but when jaames uses the same excuses for Bargs, no one says a thing??

im not saying you said it was a waste of a pick, but other people on this site and around the web have said it.
 
what do you mean this crap? i have an opinion as does everyone, no need to go out and attack other peoples opinion just because you don't agree. (and yes a bit of sarcasm was intended by that post i made.) i just don't understand how when I say Bennett has gotten off to a rough start because his adjusting to a different game or when i say Bennett is having a rough start because he hasn't played this role before etc, it gets called excuses or this or that etc but when jaames uses the same excuses for Bargs, no one says a thing??

im not saying you said it was a waste of a pick, but other people on this site and around the web have said it.


And I'll absolutely stick by my comment:

"This pick by the Cavs, baffles me. I hear he's out of shape but he did have a pre-season of sorts. Unless Cavs are gonna trade a big this is just a waste of a pick. They're trying to win now so why didn't they grab somebody NBA ready?"

Dude you really need to stop crying about this.

Bennett is flat out struggling, still.

The pressure of being a no.1 is huge. People have ragged on Kwame and Olowakandi for years and they had some double doubles. Plenty of them actually. My opinion is that the Cavs have not really tried to fill a particular hole, they do however seem like they'll be looking to swing a trade which will open things up for the no.1.

I think this is as much on the Cavs as it is Bennett. He's just not a no.1, even he was surprised when he was drafted.

Also, seeing as I'm upset that I had money on the Cavs today, is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the NBA? I thought that he would come in and school MCW but he didn't really at all. This is scary, especially for all of those that are blowing mega bucks on his cards.

I really love his game, but I expect a little bit more.
 
As is Bennett but his a 'waste of a pick' apparently. Does that made Bargnani a waste of a signing?

I've said this many times and maybe you need to read it slow to understand, I'm saying drafting a player with the #1 pick to be a bench player is a waste, not saying Bennett is a bad player just that the Cavs front office stinks. Don't you find it weird that pretty much everyone thinks it is a bad pick apart from you?
 
And I'll absolutely stick by my comment:

"This pick by the Cavs, baffles me. I hear he's out of shape but he did have a pre-season of sorts. Unless Cavs are gonna trade a big this is just a waste of a pick. They're trying to win now so why didn't they grab somebody NBA ready?"

Dude you really need to stop crying about this.

Bennett is flat out struggling, still.

The pressure of being a no.1 is huge. People have ragged on Kwame and Olowakandi for years and they had some double doubles. Plenty of them actually. My opinion is that the Cavs have not really tried to fill a particular hole, they do however seem like they'll be looking to swing a trade which will open things up for the no.1.

I think this is as much on the Cavs as it is Bennett. He's just not a no.1, even he was surprised when he was drafted.

Also, seeing as I'm upset that I had money on the Cavs today, is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the NBA? I thought that he would come in and school MCW but he didn't really at all. This is scary, especially for all of those that are blowing mega bucks on his cards.

I really love his game, but I expect a little bit more.

That's your opinion and I respect that but I don't agree with it. I understand his struggling but I still believe he's got the skill set and talent to be a number one pick and be a very effective player in this league. Have the Cavs got a trade set up? I doubt it but you never know. We might we might not. Personally I don't think we do as the front office loves Bennett and mike brown has said that Bennett has progressed on defense and rebounding, much quicker then he expected him to.

Look as tough as this is for me to say, I think the media does overrate Kyrie. They only seem to see his highlight reel plays and not watch the actual games. I saw it all last season that his defense was just horrible and at times he didn't seem interested (which he admitted after a game in Detroit last season). He still was ways to improve. I would still rank rondo over Irving. Now I'm not saying Irving is a bad player because his not, he's an all star player but the media has overrated him this off season and Kyrie has struggled his first five games this season. I've watched all the Cavs games and his just missing shots he should be making and he seems to be dribbling too much and trying to do much in the clutch. He needs to learn how to pass me shot less in the clutch situations.
 
what do you mean this crap? i have an opinion as does everyone, no need to go out and attack other peoples opinion just because you don't agree. (and yes a bit of sarcasm was intended by that post i made.) i just don't understand how when I say Bennett has gotten off to a rough start because his adjusting to a different game or when i say Bennett is having a rough start because he hasn't played this role before etc, it gets called excuses or this or that etc but when jaames uses the same excuses for Bargs, no one says a thing??

im not saying you said it was a waste of a pick, but other people on this site and around the web have said it.
It's crap because Jaames's post had nothing to do with Bennett , yet you keep dragging him into it and digging a bigger and bigger hole.

They are not comparable, Bargnani is having an MVP season compared to Bennett so I'm not sure why you would compare them.

You need to move on, as you said everyone has opinions - including those that think Bennett is a dud already. Accept the fact that he has had a stinker of a start to the season, stop making excuses for him. There is no excuse for being 1-20, as I said hopefully he comes right - but for the time being stop seeing it through your Cavs coloured lenses.

Plus this injury could be the best thing for him and force him to step away for a bit to get his mind right.
 
I've said this many times and maybe you need to read it slow to understand, I'm saying drafting a player with the #1 pick to be a bench player is a waste, not saying Bennett is a bad player just that the Cavs front office stinks. Don't you find it weird that pretty much everyone thinks it is a bad pick apart from you?

Again I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. How does our front office stink? Look at how well they have rebuilt this roster since Lebron left. All the draft picks have been good (can't judge this years picks yet) and so have the trades and free agent signings. Only mistake the front office has made is trading JJ Hickson for Omri casspi. We have rebuilt this roster based on young players who can play multiple positions and mixed it in nicely with some vets, while still leaving plenty of cap space. Front office said when Lebron left that it's going to be a 3 year rebuilding process. Last 3 years have been rebuilding, this is the 4th year and we have playoffs as our goal. Still trying to see how our front office stinks.

No I don't find it weird because I know people out there who think it isn't a bad pick. I heard Kenny smith say he's going to be a good player on inside the NBA this past week. And apart from the shooting his defense and rebounding have came along really nicely over the first five games, they've just been overshadowed by his shooting.
 
It's crap because Jaames's post had nothing to do with Bennett , yet you keep dragging him into it and digging a bigger and bigger hole.

They are not comparable, Bargnani is having an MVP season compared to Bennett so I'm not sure why you would compare them.

You need to move on, as you said everyone has opinions - including those that think Bennett is a dud already. Accept the fact that he has had a stinker of a start to the season, stop making excuses for him. There is no excuse for being 1-20, as I said hopefully he comes right - but for the time being stop seeing it through your Cavs coloured lenses.

Plus this injury could be the best thing for him and force him to step away for a bit to get his mind right.

Only reason I compared it to Bennett is because I used the same 'excuses' for Bennett but no one gave a sh!t but then when jaames used the Same 'excuses' for bargs, it was all good. That's the point I was trying to make. I understand that bargs is having a better season then Bennett and I understand that Bennett is struggling. I'm not making excuses for him, I'm just stating facts on why he has had a bad start to the season.
 
Only reason I compared it to Bennett is because I used the same 'excuses' for Bennett but no one gave a sh!t but then when jaames used the Same 'excuses' for bargs, it was all good. That's the point I was trying to make. I understand that bargs is having a better season then Bennett and I understand that Bennett is struggling. I'm not making excuses for him, I'm just stating facts on why he has had a bad start to the season.
James point was about the different role he is playing. You have had a list a mile long for Bennett.

Accept the fact that he has had a stinker of a start to the season, stop making excuses for him. There is no excuse for being 1-20, as I said hopefully he comes right - but for the time being stop seeing it through your Cavs coloured lenses
 
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Also, seeing as I'm upset that I had money on the Cavs today, is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the NBA? I thought that he would come in and school MCW but he didn't really at all. This is scary, especially for all of those that are blowing mega bucks on his cards.

I really love his game, but I expect a little bit more.

Been getting more assists this season, but sadly he seems to be struggling to score as well as he did last season
 
boys seriously, stop with this whole bennett thing, its irritating... its majorly clogging up the thread and making me NOT want to come on here again... start a separate thread to debate it FFS
 
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