Official 2011-2012 Playoff thread
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whether its Kobe pointing the finger or not its true. Pau has not pulled his weight well enough full stop! He pulls his finger out once then people get off him 3 or 4 games later he's way back down again. Serge is a good player but shouldnt shut such a skilled big man down like that.
I would love to see the Lakers move Pau at seasons end for a real good young player or highish draft pick. I think Bynum with move growth could be the Man once Kobe is gone so some young guns around him would be huge.
I would love to see the Lakers move Pau at seasons end for a real good young player or highish draft pick. I think Bynum with move growth could be the Man once Kobe is gone so some young guns around him would be huge.
lukesicari
formerly DW8
It's not true at all, if you watch the post game interviews, all he says is that Pau has to be more aggressive instead of looking to pass first.
If/when Pau is moved this off season it won't be because Kobe has 'forced him out', it will be because of the lack of passion and aggression that we too often see from Pau.
People forget Pau had never won one playoff game before coming to LA, Kobe made him a winner, not the other way around.
agreed. Persoanlly as a Bulls fan I was optamistic. I did state at the end of last season that this year will depend on their mental state more so then their ability.
Regular season showed they can play. D Rose going out caused a mental shock ontop of that others half injured and playing, there was no chance. Mind you i still think philly have stepped it up, they are in form atm and are doing better then anyone predicted.
My money is still on the Spurs to win unless something drastic changes. They hit their top gear at the right time.
Pau was pretty damned impressive BEFORE he got to L.A also, they did toughen him up a bit after that Finals loss to Boston though. Pau is a highly skilled big man, will be very interesting to see what happens with him. Hell I'd be happy if the Spurs got him, run him in the pick n roll no worries.
I think its got to be mental with Pau, I mean, did he ever get over the serious trade talk? He was'nt wanted.
He should've been more aggressive on that play, Kobe got double teamed and passed to him and he tried to kick it out, when he got the pass I thought he'd shoot it, but then he passed. Silly boy. Reggie Miller was blaming Kobe for giving it up, but he was double teamed at the 3 point line, come on, the pass was the right play.
Absolutely... well said, and getting over trade talks wouldn't be easy either. But as a laker fan it is the lack of aggression which hurts and you can't afford it come playoffs. Kobe shouldn't have rip him before, during and after every game to get this aggression out of him. I still think Pau is one of the best big men in the game when playing his best, but I do think his best is coming too far between games to win a title and therefore he must go.
Regarding the play, I completely agree, Pau had to be more aggressive and Kobe made the right play. However, if he is in the same position in game 5, I wouldn't be expecting the bounce pass if I was Pau, I think Kobe will try to close the next one himself.
I have read people slamming Kobe for shooting 2/10 in the 4th. Some of his decisions were bad but the lakers offense was terrible, everyone was stagnant. Even before Kobe checked back in lakers had an 11 point lead, but only because Metta hit two contested 3's - these weren't good looks either, we just got lucky! The offense was terrible, and the defense was great by the thunder. Countless times throughout the 4th, lakers took rushed shots in the final seconds of the shot clock instead of running the offense through Bynum which built them that early lead. Lakers blew it today again today, I think we should be up 3 - 1, but if you can't close you don't deserve to win playoff games. Well done Thunder.
A_Iverson_I
OzCardTrader
Yeah it seems they have really learn't from Dirk and the Mavs in last years Western Conference Finals. This is the best Spurs have looked in a long time so it should make for a fascinating series...
Imagine if the East finals is Pacers and 76ers, who would have thought?!
Thankfully Miami got up, The King was in the house tonight. And Wade was also awesome.
I'm really feeling for Pau, everyone blaming him for not stepping up. I thought he had a great game until a turn over in the last minute. Kobe runs that ship, not Pau. Pau doesn't decide who gets the ball in offence. Not many players can work with such a dominate player. Kobe needs to take the good and bad in his stride, he should also note that OKC are unworldly right now.
Like MJ had Scottie, Kobe hasn't really let any fill that role.
I'm really feeling for Pau, everyone blaming him for not stepping up. I thought he had a great game until a turn over in the last minute. Kobe runs that ship, not Pau. Pau doesn't decide who gets the ball in offence. Not many players can work with such a dominate player. Kobe needs to take the good and bad in his stride, he should also note that OKC are unworldly right now.
Like MJ had Scottie, Kobe hasn't really let any fill that role.
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