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See, my problem is this: The referees let play go, so they either missed what happened, or they didn't think it was worth a penalty, UNTIL James Graham jumped up waving his hands trying to get medical attention for Reynolds. So it seems the penalty assessed was NOT for the action involved, but for the serious injury in the aftermath! SECONDLY, how the HELL do you then get the penalty goal from right in front, 10 metres out??? I've READ what has been said on it, but even the commentators couldn't figure it out. If they had've slotted the goal from out near the side-line where the ball LANDED, I'd have complained less. But what they're basicly saying, is this is the ONLY time in history, at least since that law's been around, that a player diving to stop a field goal has made contact with the kicker's leg? I HIGHLY doubt that's the case! Now that it's APPARENTLY a known rule, what's to stop someone later this round/next round/in the future, when down by 1 in the closing minutes, setting up for a bomb to the corner, then changing the action to a field-goal attempt when he see's someone diving out of the line to smother his kick??? Or 60/70 metre field-goal "attempts", like we see in basketball, just chucking up half-court haymakers when they see contact is inevitable???
It's not the first time referees have reviewed an incident during a game and the action Graham did was a penalty. Penalty for in front it is stated in the rule book, commentators don't always get the rules right or know them all. My problem is Graham's technique in charging the ball down, others have successfully charge the ball down without making contact with the legs it was how graham dived that was always going to end badly for the kicker. He put his body on a collision course with the kicker and turned his head, he needs to learn to watch what he was doing, the way he dived was poorly executed that even if he had stopped the ball (which was a very low probablilty with the low height he dived at) he was always going to connect with the kickers legs. His technique needs to change or it could happen again
 
When watching the game live after Graham called for the trainer while Ryenolds was on the ground it looked as if Graham was bending over and yelling at him. Anyone else notice it?
 
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34meqI68iJw
It's not the first time referees have reviewed an incident during a game and the action Graham did was a penalty. Penalty for in front it is stated in the rule book, commentators don't always get the rules right or know them all. My problem is Graham's technique in charging the ball down, others have successfully charge the ball down without making contact with the legs it was how graham dived that was always going to end badly for the kicker. He put his body on a collision course with the kicker and turned his head, he needs to learn to watch what he was doing, the way he dived was poorly executed that even if he had stopped the ball (which was a very low probablilty with the low height he dived at) he was always going to connect with the kickers legs. His technique needs to change or it could happen again
You obviously watched a different thing then most if you think that was a "low probability due to the low height he dived at". The ball sailed THROUGH his arms, and almost sconed him in the head! Also if Reynolds' back leg had've got off the ground which often happens, (not that he has a RESPONSIBILITY for that to happen, just that it often DOES...), the worst thing that happens is he goes arse over tit and probably lands on Graham. It was purely an ACCIDENT, that wasn't picked up by the refs, and was only penalised because Graham did the right thing in trying to get medical assistance for Reynolds as quick as possible. Also, if you're so insistent on "rules being rules", why were the Dogs denied their own penalty when Morris was pushed out of the contest for the next kick-off? "Rules are rules" after all, UNLESS it benefits the wrong side, it seems...
 
The same reason Morris wasn't binned for leading with his feet to prevent a try. Rules are rules however interpretations can vary and officials can use discretion. I don't doubt that Graham had no intention of hurting Reynolds but just like a careless high tackle it happened and he was penalised.

In yesterday's Canberra v Manly match Jordan Rapana smashed Buhrer, forced the ball loose and Csnverra scored. No try because contact was high but Buhrer fell into the tackle. Still high contact and despite no intent and accidental contact Canberra were denied
 
You obviously watched a different thing then most if you think that was a "low probability due to the low height he dived at". The ball sailed THROUGH his arms, and almost sconed him in the head! Also if Reynolds' back leg had've got off the ground which often happens, (not that he has a RESPONSIBILITY for that to happen, just that it often DOES...), the worst thing that happens is he goes arse over tit and probably lands on Graham.

How he dived is irrelevant and he probably does need to change his style because what he did didn't work. Now for the field goal, I assume you haven't kicked many because when you kick a field goal your back leg hardly lifts off the ground as you are kicking through the ball not like a bomb when you are kicking for height and beside the point is even if Reynolds did only go arse over tit it should still be a penalty for making contact with the kickers legs.

It was purely an ACCIDENT, that wasn't picked up by the refs, and was only penalised because Graham did the right thing in trying to get medical assistance for Reynolds as quick as possible.

Even if Graham hadn't waved his arms it would have been reviewed by the video refs as I'm not if you noticed Adam Reynolds was in pain, couldn't walk and didn't move, I'm sure somebody would have noticed the illegal contact with the kickers legs.

Also, if you're so insistent on "rules being rules", why were the Dogs denied their own penalty when Morris was pushed out of the contest for the next kick-off? "Rules are rules" after all, UNLESS it benefits the wrong side, it seems...

Actually you don't get a penalty if your own team mate pushes an opposition player into you, look at it again and tell me you still think it was a penalty.

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The same reason Morris wasn't binned for leading with his feet to prevent a try. Rules are rules however interpretations can vary and officials can use discretion. I don't doubt that Graham had no intention of hurting Reynolds but just like a careless high tackle it happened and he was penalised.

In yesterday's Canberra v Manly match Jordan Rapana smashed Buhrer, forced the ball loose and Csnverra scored. No try because contact was high but Buhrer fell into the tackle. Still high contact and despite no intent and accidental contact Canberra were denied
Ok, but as I THINK I said before, (although this may have been in another conversation, I'm not sure...), give them the penalty, that's been given hundreds of times BEFORE: A penalty kick from where the ball lands. If he slots that, I still don't agree with the penalty, but I can live with it. Giving the kick from straight in front from 10 out, you may as well as given him a ladder from 2 out, widened the goals and tell him to throw it! It was like watching a carnival worker who felt sorry for an unco kid who couldn't get a prize: "Here, matey. You can shoot from the "special" mark..." The penalty did NOT fit the offense...
 
The ref and James Graham were obviously having a running battle, which James was obviously a willing participant in, and it cost us. But screw your "interpretation" crud out of here, just referee the game like it's been refereed for thousand of gamers before you even got there...
 
Giving the penalty ten out in front is the rule. I would suggest they made the penalty overly harsh to prevent incidents like this. Take the Cowboys v Melbourne last Monday night. 3 field goals in the last ten minutes. All within 25 of the posts and not one chaser dove low and hard at the legs.

Every game is reffed slightly different because of 'interpretation' and 'discretion'. The penalty was the right call, it is in the rule book, it is a shame it cost the Bulldogs the game but they weren't screwed over
 
Penalty is given in front as it is considered a penalty whilst attempting to score. - exactly the same as an 8 point try. Penalty Kick is taken from directly in front
 
from triple m site:

The Warriors have snared star Sydney Roosters fullback Roger Tuivasa-Sheck on a long-term contract starting next year, replacing English fullback Sam Tomkins who has been given an early release.

The Roosters confirmed the 21-year-old Kiwi joining the Warriors from next season until the end of 2018 on Wednesday.

While unsettled England fullback Sam Tomkins has been granted an early release from his three-year Warriors deal, allowing him to return to Super League club Wigan.

“This is a great club and I can’t say enough about the coaching staff. I love being with the lads and it’s a brilliant country to live in but I can only be honest and say I miss home in ways I never thought I would," said Tomkins.

“I’m truly grateful to the Warriors for agreeing to give me an early release and I am so determined to repay them for their consideration. All I want now is to get back out on the field to help us have a great season.”

Roger Tuivasa-Sheck informed the Club and players that he had signed with the New Zealand Warriors from 2016.

“While we are disappointed to have not been able to retain Roger, we are aware of his ties to New Zealand and respect the decision he has made,” said Roosters Chief Operating Officer, Football, Brian Canavan.

“Roger is a wonderful young man, and there’s no denying his terrific skills as a footballer and we’re proud to have played a role in helping develop Roger into the player he is today.

“He has been a key contributor to our Club in recent years, and I’m sure he will continue to be for the remainder of the season.”

21 year-old Tuivasa-Sheck, who joined the Roosters in 2012 and made his NRL debut with the Club in the later stages of that season, said: “This hasn’t been an easy decision for me. The Roosters have treated me so well ever since I got here and I owe the Club a lot, but the lure of going home to New Zealand was too great.

“I’ve learned so much from Trent Robinson and made some lifelong friends at the Roosters, and for the rest of the year, I’m focussed on doing the very best job I can for the Club. And right now, my number one focus is on preparing for our game against the Broncos on Friday night.”

Tuivasa-Sheck has played 62 games for the Roosters to date since making his NRL debut against the Gold Coast Titans at Allianz Stadium in Round 21 of the 2012 season and was a member of the Roosters 2013 Premiership-winning side. He has also represented New
 
from triple m site:

The Warriors have snared star Sydney Roosters fullback Roger Tuivasa-Sheck on a long-term contract starting next year, replacing English fullback Sam Tomkins who has been given an early release.

The Roosters confirmed the 21-year-old Kiwi joining the Warriors from next season until the end of 2018 on Wednesday.

While unsettled England fullback Sam Tomkins has been granted an early release from his three-year Warriors deal, allowing him to return to Super League club Wigan.

“This is a great club and I can’t say enough about the coaching staff. I love being with the lads and it’s a brilliant country to live in but I can only be honest and say I miss home in ways I never thought I would," said Tomkins.

“I’m truly grateful to the Warriors for agreeing to give me an early release and I am so determined to repay them for their consideration. All I want now is to get back out on the field to help us have a great season.”

Roger Tuivasa-Sheck informed the Club and players that he had signed with the New Zealand Warriors from 2016.

“While we are disappointed to have not been able to retain Roger, we are aware of his ties to New Zealand and respect the decision he has made,” said Roosters Chief Operating Officer, Football, Brian Canavan.

“Roger is a wonderful young man, and there’s no denying his terrific skills as a footballer and we’re proud to have played a role in helping develop Roger into the player he is today.

“He has been a key contributor to our Club in recent years, and I’m sure he will continue to be for the remainder of the season.”

21 year-old Tuivasa-Sheck, who joined the Roosters in 2012 and made his NRL debut with the Club in the later stages of that season, said: “This hasn’t been an easy decision for me. The Roosters have treated me so well ever since I got here and I owe the Club a lot, but the lure of going home to New Zealand was too great.

“I’ve learned so much from Trent Robinson and made some lifelong friends at the Roosters, and for the rest of the year, I’m focussed on doing the very best job I can for the Club. And right now, my number one focus is on preparing for our game against the Broncos on Friday night.”

Tuivasa-Sheck has played 62 games for the Roosters to date since making his NRL debut against the Gold Coast Titans at Allianz Stadium in Round 21 of the 2012 season and was a member of the Roosters 2013 Premiership-winning side. He has also represented New
That news just sucks arse really !!!
 
I would have like to have seen Tomkins go to another club rather than Wigan, it now means that Matty Bowen will either retire or hopefully be picked up by another ESL club, would be nice for Matty to go out with a Premiership before he retires, he should have one last year except for a certain Flower!.
 
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