I know why guys leave the hobby
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Well according to GoMoto "The only thing l had not done was pay as they wanted to confirm the price once they picked the stock up from the PO (They were waiting on Custom fees). I confirmed with them yesterday one case would be put aside for me", so seller hadn't given him a price but would once they could work out custom fees, if in fact he was told that the case WOULD be held for him but was sold on before even telling him what the price would be, then that sounds pretty crappy to me
As l said thre are always 2 sides to the story. Mine is and l stand by it; A price was agreed to hold the case on the Monday, early Tuesday he said it will be more because of customs (I said no problems, l will still take it) and mid Tueday afternoon l was told the Local customers need to be looked after first and he had to pay the bills.
Can l ask drob50: Are you the Recipient of the product which should have been sold to me? If you are its a pretty nasty way to rub it in.
So, 2 sides of the story, 1 from MOTO and 1 from Drob.
At the moment it seems like there was a bit of a customer service issue here.
If a buyer organises a case from you (and nominates a ceiling price) as suggested, the seller should have at least contacted the buyer and advised them of the final price, (even if it is more than what they have said they were willing to pay) and given them one last chance before selling off the case to another customer.
From where i stand, the case was still sold off from underneath the buyer because this simple step in the sales process seems to have been missed.
Once again, customer service!
At the moment it seems like there was a bit of a customer service issue here.
If a buyer organises a case from you (and nominates a ceiling price) as suggested, the seller should have at least contacted the buyer and advised them of the final price, (even if it is more than what they have said they were willing to pay) and given them one last chance before selling off the case to another customer.
From where i stand, the case was still sold off from underneath the buyer because this simple step in the sales process seems to have been missed.
Once again, customer service!
Fair enough mate! I understand your view!
All I was trying to say is that regardless of who is right or wrong, it is not fair for everyone to right off the seller without knowing both sides of the story!
I am not the recipient of 'Your' boxes mate! I did manage to get some Retro from him, but not what I was after!
I am in NOW WAY trying to rub anything in mate, I genuinely feel sorry for you if this is exactly what happened! But I am trying to listen to both stories!
I have been trying to get hold of cases or boxes all week! I had 2 sellers who did to me EXACTLY what you said in here. By the time they received the cases, the market had changed, I get that! I was disappointed, but I know I should have bought before the hype!
cherrycollectables
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I don't wish to take sides or grab a pitchfork.
But I do want to say that GoMoto sent me a message prior to me going on live breaks and said "I've secured a case and he was no longer interested in negotiating a deal on my two".
I thought that was a very fair and gentleman like act, given the case/s could've gone 30 mins later.
p.s I offered my cases to OZCT members at the low price and then again at the current prices. If a deal had of been made with any of them at the low price I would've stuck by it, regardless of location. I felt like a prick telling people/gomoto the current price - but I've been stung enough on falling product prices that I am still able to sleep at night!
But I do want to say that GoMoto sent me a message prior to me going on live breaks and said "I've secured a case and he was no longer interested in negotiating a deal on my two".
I thought that was a very fair and gentleman like act, given the case/s could've gone 30 mins later.
p.s I offered my cases to OZCT members at the low price and then again at the current prices. If a deal had of been made with any of them at the low price I would've stuck by it, regardless of location. I felt like a prick telling people/gomoto the current price - but I've been stung enough on falling product prices that I am still able to sleep at night!
I think the biggest thing here is what Dom said!
This product really is messing with people and the community!
I am the person that Verse mentioned earlier in the thread that had 4-5 sellers trying to get me some retro! Of those seller, 2 cam up with loose boxes, 2 reneged on 'agreed' prices and lied to me as to why they all of a sudden 'got short supplied', and 1 was just upfront and honest with the bad news!
I was disappointed with the 2 that reneged did so, but I also 'get it'!
This hype is like nothing I have ever seen before! The box price went from $300 Monday, to $600-$700 Tuesday! As a seller, you would want to get as much for a box as you can, but without upsetting people, sometimes that isn't always possible!
At the end of the day, I think this instance is protected by the whole "a deal is not a deal until it is paid for" rule, but to some people, that is not the way it should work!
This product really is messing with people and the community!
I am the person that Verse mentioned earlier in the thread that had 4-5 sellers trying to get me some retro! Of those seller, 2 cam up with loose boxes, 2 reneged on 'agreed' prices and lied to me as to why they all of a sudden 'got short supplied', and 1 was just upfront and honest with the bad news!
I was disappointed with the 2 that reneged did so, but I also 'get it'!
This hype is like nothing I have ever seen before! The box price went from $300 Monday, to $600-$700 Tuesday! As a seller, you would want to get as much for a box as you can, but without upsetting people, sometimes that isn't always possible!
At the end of the day, I think this instance is protected by the whole "a deal is not a deal until it is paid for" rule, but to some people, that is not the way it should work!
WoobieZarz
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Question, why is it that you sellers (and I say that as in a general term and not at you alone Cherry), but "you sellers" who buy in from overseas at XXX price, already have a price set for selling them locally (with your added markup), and then when you have stock in hand, the prices go up because the market is now commanding the new premiums, NOT because they were purchased at a higher price to begin with.
You're clearly upping your price to make more money, rather than the price you were already happy with.
Reminds me of an episode on Hardcore Pawn, where guy took a baseball card in to pawn, was happy with $2k and the dealer was too, but needed it authenticated. Once authenticated, the authenticator said it could go for as low as $5k and as high as $10k. The owner of the card chose to keep it when knowing that, rather than committing to the "happy with" price of $2k.
This is of course different when you buy new stock, but we're talking about products that were bought for an already agreed value, before the market drove the prices up.
You're clearly upping your price to make more money, rather than the price you were already happy with.
Reminds me of an episode on Hardcore Pawn, where guy took a baseball card in to pawn, was happy with $2k and the dealer was too, but needed it authenticated. Once authenticated, the authenticator said it could go for as low as $5k and as high as $10k. The owner of the card chose to keep it when knowing that, rather than committing to the "happy with" price of $2k.
This is of course different when you buy new stock, but we're talking about products that were bought for an already agreed value, before the market drove the prices up.
what i dont understand is if the seller has "his side" well where is it!!! this thread has been going long enough for him to respond...so why doesn't he? businesses don't last if they don't look after customers, especially small business, as i manage a small retail outlet, it is imparative to make customers happy, even if you don't make the profit margin you always want...it only takes one disgruntled customer to ruin or damage a business...
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