I don't think their availability or customer service is going to change much either. I mentioned that while Select have had some quality issues over the years, their response to emails and in replacing any damaged cards has always been fantastic. He said, "Yer, we plan on doing all of that". Then somneone else asked if they were going to have a website like Select and he said probably not, they'd prefer to let their distributor handle websites and communications etc....so i think getting into contact with these guys is always going to be an issue.
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I don't think their availability or customer service is going to change much either. I mentioned that while Select have had some quality issues over the years, their response to emails and in replacing any damaged cards has always been fantastic. He said, "Yer, we plan on doing all of that". Then somneone else asked if they were going to have a website like Select and he said probably not, they'd prefer to let their distributor handle websites and communications etc....so i think getting into contact with these guys is always going to be an issue.
Can i throw something ot their which now worries me is suppose to be 2/3 of theses cases sold is that 2/3 going to K-Mart/Woolies/Big W/Newsgencys & Servos and whats left is to be sold to the dealers such as the people of this site i am just asking because i dont know anyone else in queensland who has much info at all on whats happening.
I gave offered to hand out Promo cards at the gold coast show to help promo theses cards over 3 day the show bag pravillion gets over 50,000 people and again no one from ESP has bother to get back about promotion this set.
I gave offered to hand out Promo cards at the gold coast show to help promo theses cards over 3 day the show bag pravillion gets over 50,000 people and again no one from ESP has bother to get back about promotion this set.
Its stuiped because you have over 5000 members i am doing a show soon where their will be over 50,000 go throught and most of theses people dont collect cards a good way to get them started as i have already got a current nrl first grader who played in this years state of origin for queensland coming to do a appearance and they dont seam to care tell me whats wrong with this picture.
jonnov0007
OzCardTrader
did you mention at all this great site?
Mate all you have done is winge about them. No wonder they are not replying to your emails.
They have had the license a matter of months. Im sure they are still getting a lot of this in place within their business.
When was the last card show that you saw Select at?
Certainly did. Told him that i own a small business and he asked me where i sell cards. I mentioned this site first but he didn't give me any sort of indication that he knew of it. Then i mentioned eBay where we went into in interesting conversation about what his thoughts are for the future NRL card market...which i will detail shortly.
Tap Twist Snap
OzCardTrader
So without the odds of the redemption being known yet so far we can presume with
840 Cases
8400 Boxes
151200 Packets
Roughly
2100 Parallel sets could be completed.
14700 Common sets could be completed.
That seems like a lot of product. I'm sure the signature cards will be quite collectable and in demand but it looks like there will be a glut of common cards on the market. This set could have done with some mid level inserts in it.
840 Cases
8400 Boxes
151200 Packets
Roughly
2100 Parallel sets could be completed.
14700 Common sets could be completed.
That seems like a lot of product. I'm sure the signature cards will be quite collectable and in demand but it looks like there will be a glut of common cards on the market. This set could have done with some mid level inserts in it.
OK, so here are some interesting tidbits of information that i picked up today from the ESP rep.
ESP don't plan on selling to anyone that just has an ABN (like JHL would) and they aren't interested in selling to online businesses like eBay stores etc.. They only want to deal with businesses that have a legitimate shopfront. They want to discourage the selling of single cards....the feedback they have received from retailers is that they think the selling of individual cards undermines the market. I'm pretty sure that these same retailers plan on selling individual cards in their shop and their websites so effectively the advice ESP is receiving from retailers is that they don't like competition. He said all distribution is through Ikon and they have 4 main retailers at the moment (obviously footycards and Dan's NRL are two of them).
If eBay businesses are slowly getting wiped out and these select few retailers are now dictating prices with little competition i fail to see the benefit here for the end customer? The kids who collect. I see a lot of benefit for the retailers. He said if a retailer does get into bad habbits eg. individual cards, searched cases etc, then they could easily stop selling to that retailer.
Anyway, we'll see how it all unfolds but i do have some serious concerns now and it also explains why all these other small businesses can't get any reply from ESP via email etc.
Here is the info i got regarding future ESP products planned:
2012 September- Limited Series- Representative Set (tap twist posted details above).
2012 December- Trying to get a deal done with Marvel at the moment in conjunction with The Avengers to have a 5 card NRL set feature an Avenger on each card and an NRL player from one of the semi-final teams (I guess the 5 players would be players that were heavily featured during the semis). He said they would be Lenticular cards where an Avenger could morph into an NRL Player. He is waiting to hear back from Marvel as to whether he can get the artwork. It would be sold as a set in a nice box at approx $300 and /1000 sets.
2013 February- NRL Traders - Will be their main NRL series with a volume of 350,000 packets in the release. Basically their Series 1 product.
2013 March- NRL Power Play - Will be a Game Card Series. I think similar to the Match Attax style cards for the kids where players have attack and defense ratings etc on the card and can be used to play a game.
2013 May/June- NRL Limited Series (Looks like they call their higher end sets Limited and i'd expect them to do NRL teams instead of Rep with this set). He mentioned future limited releases would also involve using pieces of Game Used balls in the cards.
2013 TBC- Said maybe a Series 2 after the Limited set releases (follow-up to the cheaper NRL Traders Set from February) Said they will play this one by ear because they don't want to flood the market (LOL)
2013 September- Limited Series- Another Representative Set.
2014- Said in early 2014 they plan on releasing NRL Dreamteam (the name of the NRL's Fantasy game on their website). Will be another Game Card style Series but the Redemption cards in this series will be to win a car!. There will be 6 Car redemption Cards in the set which will win you a car from Toyota.
Well, i think that's all i have for you. Happy to have helped given how hard it seems to get any real info at the moment
ESP don't plan on selling to anyone that just has an ABN (like JHL would) and they aren't interested in selling to online businesses like eBay stores etc.. They only want to deal with businesses that have a legitimate shopfront. They want to discourage the selling of single cards....the feedback they have received from retailers is that they think the selling of individual cards undermines the market. I'm pretty sure that these same retailers plan on selling individual cards in their shop and their websites so effectively the advice ESP is receiving from retailers is that they don't like competition. He said all distribution is through Ikon and they have 4 main retailers at the moment (obviously footycards and Dan's NRL are two of them).
If eBay businesses are slowly getting wiped out and these select few retailers are now dictating prices with little competition i fail to see the benefit here for the end customer? The kids who collect. I see a lot of benefit for the retailers. He said if a retailer does get into bad habbits eg. individual cards, searched cases etc, then they could easily stop selling to that retailer.
Anyway, we'll see how it all unfolds but i do have some serious concerns now and it also explains why all these other small businesses can't get any reply from ESP via email etc.
Here is the info i got regarding future ESP products planned:
2012 September- Limited Series- Representative Set (tap twist posted details above).
2012 December- Trying to get a deal done with Marvel at the moment in conjunction with The Avengers to have a 5 card NRL set feature an Avenger on each card and an NRL player from one of the semi-final teams (I guess the 5 players would be players that were heavily featured during the semis). He said they would be Lenticular cards where an Avenger could morph into an NRL Player. He is waiting to hear back from Marvel as to whether he can get the artwork. It would be sold as a set in a nice box at approx $300 and /1000 sets.
2013 February- NRL Traders - Will be their main NRL series with a volume of 350,000 packets in the release. Basically their Series 1 product.
2013 March- NRL Power Play - Will be a Game Card Series. I think similar to the Match Attax style cards for the kids where players have attack and defense ratings etc on the card and can be used to play a game.
2013 May/June- NRL Limited Series (Looks like they call their higher end sets Limited and i'd expect them to do NRL teams instead of Rep with this set). He mentioned future limited releases would also involve using pieces of Game Used balls in the cards.
2013 TBC- Said maybe a Series 2 after the Limited set releases (follow-up to the cheaper NRL Traders Set from February) Said they will play this one by ear because they don't want to flood the market (LOL)
2013 September- Limited Series- Another Representative Set.
2014- Said in early 2014 they plan on releasing NRL Dreamteam (the name of the NRL's Fantasy game on their website). Will be another Game Card style Series but the Redemption cards in this series will be to win a car!. There will be 6 Car redemption Cards in the set which will win you a car from Toyota.
Well, i think that's all i have for you. Happy to have helped given how hard it seems to get any real info at the moment
OK, so here are some in teresting tidbits of information that i picked up today from the ESP rep.
ESP don't plan on selling to anyone that just has an ABN (like JHL would) and they aren't interested in selling to online businesses like eBay stores etc.. They only want to deal with businesses that have a legitimate shopfront. They want to discourage the selling of single cards....the feedback they have received from retailers is that they think the selling of individual cards undermines the market. I'm pretty sure that these same retailers plan on selling individual cards in their shop and their websites so effectively the advice ESP is receiving from retailers is that they don't like competition. He said all distribution is through Ikon and they have 4 main retailers at the moment (obviously footycards and Dan's NRL are two of them).
If eBay businesses are slowly getting wiped out and these select few retailers are now dictating prices with little competition i fail to see the benefit here for the end customer? The kids who collect. I see a lot of benefit for the retailers. He said if a retailer does get into bad habbits eg. individual cards, searched cases etc, then they could easily stop selling to that retailer.
Anyway, we'll see how it all unfolds but i do have some serious concerns now and it also explains why all these other small businesses can't get any reply from ESP via email etc.
Here is the info i got regarding future ESP products planned:
2012 September- Limited Series- Representative Set (tap twist posted details above).
2012 December- Trying to get a deal done with Marvel at the moment in conjunction with The Avengers to have a 5 card NRL set feature an Avenger on each card and an NRL player from one of the semi-final teams (I guess the 5 players would be players that were heavily featured during the semis. He said they would be Lenticular cards where an Avenger could morph into an NRL Player. He is waiting to hear back from Marvel as to whether he can get the artwork. It would be sold as a set in a nice box at approx $300 and /1000 sets.
2013 February- NRL Traders - Will be their main NRL series with a volume of 350,000 packets in the release. Basically their Series 1 product.
2013 March- NRL Power Play - Will be a Game Card Series. I think similar to the Match Attax style cards for the kids where players have attack and defense ratings etc on the card and can be used to play a game.
2013 May/June- NRL Limited Series (Looks like they call their higher end sets Limited and i'd expect them to do NRL teams instead of Rep with this set). He mentioned future limited releases would also involve using pieces of Game Used balls in the cards.
2013 TBC- Said maybe a Series 2 after the Limited set releases (follow-up to the cheaper NRL Traders Set from February) Said they will play this one by ear because they don't want to flood the market (LOL)
2013 September- Limited Series- Another Representative Set.
2014- Said in early 2014 they plan on releasing NRL Dreamteam (the name of the NRL's Fantasy game on their website). Will be another Game Card style Series but the Redemption cards in this series will be to win a car!. There will be 6 Car redemption Cards in the set which will win you a car from Toyota.
Well, i think that's all i have for you. Happy to have helped given how hard it seems to get any real feedback at the moment
Thanks for the update... sounds interesting.
So if i get this right that they dont want anyone to sell single cards so they are only to be sold in packs.Interesting so whats going to happen to the card shows they wont be able to sell their cards.
Matt26 with the info you have given us this is great 5 sets of card releases for 2013 do you think that is to much as far as kids to collect.
Matt26 with the info you have given us this is great 5 sets of card releases for 2013 do you think that is to much as far as kids to collect.
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