NRL Rumour Mill Thread (Spoilers)
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you need an organiser and runner, when he was paired with lockyer they were both organisers. im hoping soward can be the runner and wallace the organiser, if thats the case it might work out well, otherwise the rebuilding phase gus is supposedly trying to get us out of, he has just cemented us in again for at least another 3-4 years. gg Gus.
Soward took on the line a lot in 2010 when the Dragons won the title. I think that was because the Dragons forwards were excellent that year in breaking the advantage line and creating second phase play. For a half to take on the line successfully they must have a dominate forward pack
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I would love to see more halfs take the line on.... both halfs for dogs and souths done a lot of that last night
Very entertaining footy indeed.
I agree soward did do that in 2010 it was after that it all stopped.
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it's big that flano had a seperate bank account to raise funds for the sharks gym thru golf days etc etc ricky stuart done the exact same thing
wonder if they will check his ebay account from where he got the gym from in the first place wonder if he paid paypal or bank deposit or even cash on delivery massive story that one will be
Isn't it more ridiculous that a professional rugby league team had to raise money for gym equipment? Don't get me wrong, I think it is a great thing as it shows the whole grass roots level/working class level league is built on but surely having an adequate gym would be a priority for any professional sporting team let alone a Rugby League side.
shane_sharks
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you can thank barry pierce and his bunch of knucklehead directors for almost running the club into the ground
when irvine came in they had to cut costs everywhere just to try and put a decent side on the field for a few years they didn't even use the whole salary cap
hence why flanno had to get funds for the gym thru fundraising etc even a mate of his a truck driver picked up the gym from melbourne
things were looking up this year new development due to commence early next year membership up 95% good side on the field then this asada crap hit
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Still doesn't excuse, if the allegations are found to be true, that Cronulla players were pumped with "not for human consumption" medicines.
If you think I'm being a ba$tard about it, listen to this (sure, it's Essendon, but I think it relates in light that Dank was at both Cronulla and Essendon). If Flanagan and his staff were doing the same as Hird and his staff have alleged to have done...well...
Will wait to see how it plays out.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...uire-on-triple-m/story-fni5f6kv-1226701912254
Here's the transcript:
EDDIE MCGUIRE: We let you have your say there because it is hugely emotional and we can feel you every step of the way on this. And you’re quite right sometimes it gets down to lawyers and PR people and you forget about the people and the issues at home. Sarah, were you at the meeting at Essendon the other day?
SARAH: I wasn’t, my son was there, my husband was there sorry.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: And are you happy with the information that you have been getting? Clearly you are taking a different point of view that it is not about saving the Essendon Football Club, it is about the processes that got them to this situation. So can you tell me what has been the agony around the dinner table, and you, your son and your husband are there and your talking, what’s the feeling?
SARAH: It’s the unknown Eddie. You know I talk to my son and I ask him questions whether he knows what he has been given. No answer, no knowledge. Half the things they’ve been told, they haven’t even been told what they’ve been given. You know they don’t know anything. They is only a few that are aware, that are completely aware of what they were injected. You know, they don’t know.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: And you have not received any information at any of these briefings at all have you?
SARAH: No. Most who went to the meeting, when my husband went to the meeting the other night, the whole meeting was centred, the whole meeting at Essendon was centred from Essendon’s point of view. All of it was from Essendon’s point of view. And a lot of it was in, how can I say it, a lot of it was in legal speak so he just, you know the whole thing is about Essendon’s point of view and I think people need to remember there are kids involved. James Hird can say what he likes and Mr Little can say what he likes and Mr Dank can say what he likes but I challenge them to inject their own children with the same substance and see whether they would do it willingly.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: Sarah thank you for calling this morning. Our phones, and our emails and our text and twitters have gone off the richter scale here just in their support of you as a mother and the sympathy that everybody has for you that you find yourself in this situation and quite obviously the desperation that you felt it compelling to ring us this morning on Triple M’s Hot Breakfast. Can you just give us an insight, one final question to you, as to why you felt compelled to ring us this morning anonymously, and we will protect your identity, but why you decided you needed to talk to somebody and to Triple M’s Hot Breakfast?
SARAH: Because Eddie, the parents haven’t been given a voice. You know we go to meetings and we get told this is what’s happening, but we haven’t been given a voice and you know, I commend Tim Watson for actually coming out and actually speaking to the media. But he is in the same situation. He’s a legend of the game. But he has also got a son playing there. So he is in an untenable situation as well. You know, the reason I rung is basically frustration. Frustration because we’ve been muzzled and a lot of our children have been muzzled.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: And Sarah can I ask you, we’ve seen the Bombers form dropping off, is that an obvious manifestation of what has happened?
SARAH: Yeah, my son has no, come game day there is no enthusiasm that was there. He used to jump out of bed. There is no enthusiasm. The enthusiasm is gone. And it’s the unknown. There’s fear. There is fear because he thinks well, you know, there is fear because he thinks well you know I may be rubbed out for three months, I may be rubbed out for a year and it is just the complete unknown. You don’t know, plus the morale, regardless of whatever is actually put to the media, the morale is awful.
MICK MOLLOY: Sarah, Sarah can I ask, what would you like to happen now? As a parent, what would you like to see happen now?
SARAH: What I would like to happen now is I would like for the Essendon or ASADA or whoever to disclose everything that the individuals were given and for Essendon and Mr Little or whoever to admit, you know for whoever to admit that they did something wrong. It’s not about cheating. I don’t actually think that the club went into this with cheating in mind. I actually think they did it thinking they could improve the health and fitness of their players. But it is the way they have gone about it. And you know, to get young men, not just my son, to get young men to sign documents, a waiver, you know that in itself, that in itself was a huge flag to me. You know if the club didn’t think they had any issues, why get them to sign documents?
EDDIE MCGUIRE: Did you try and intervene with your son and say don’t do it because of the documents? Did you have a family discussion about that Sarah?
SARAH: I only found out about the waiver after the fact. My son signed it because everybody else signed it.
LUKE DARCY: Sarah do you think the four people charged by the AFL should be punished, including James Hird?
SARAH: Well as I said before I don’t think it is about cheating, I think the word cheating needs to be dropped. What they have done is they have done things that are unethical from a moral aspect there on, and that is bringing the game into disrepute. Whether they choose to believe it or not, they have brought Essendon and the game into disrepute. And they should acknowledge they’re wrong and as I said everything in the media that has been coming out of the club at the moment is all about Essendon, the board, Mr Little, it’s all about James Hird. Nothing is about the future health concerns or future health repercussions about my child and every other parent’s child that is playing in Essendon at the moment.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: Sarah, thank you for calling.
If you think I'm being a ba$tard about it, listen to this (sure, it's Essendon, but I think it relates in light that Dank was at both Cronulla and Essendon). If Flanagan and his staff were doing the same as Hird and his staff have alleged to have done...well...
Will wait to see how it plays out.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...uire-on-triple-m/story-fni5f6kv-1226701912254
Here's the transcript:
EDDIE MCGUIRE: We let you have your say there because it is hugely emotional and we can feel you every step of the way on this. And you’re quite right sometimes it gets down to lawyers and PR people and you forget about the people and the issues at home. Sarah, were you at the meeting at Essendon the other day?
SARAH: I wasn’t, my son was there, my husband was there sorry.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: And are you happy with the information that you have been getting? Clearly you are taking a different point of view that it is not about saving the Essendon Football Club, it is about the processes that got them to this situation. So can you tell me what has been the agony around the dinner table, and you, your son and your husband are there and your talking, what’s the feeling?
SARAH: It’s the unknown Eddie. You know I talk to my son and I ask him questions whether he knows what he has been given. No answer, no knowledge. Half the things they’ve been told, they haven’t even been told what they’ve been given. You know they don’t know anything. They is only a few that are aware, that are completely aware of what they were injected. You know, they don’t know.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: And you have not received any information at any of these briefings at all have you?
SARAH: No. Most who went to the meeting, when my husband went to the meeting the other night, the whole meeting was centred, the whole meeting at Essendon was centred from Essendon’s point of view. All of it was from Essendon’s point of view. And a lot of it was in, how can I say it, a lot of it was in legal speak so he just, you know the whole thing is about Essendon’s point of view and I think people need to remember there are kids involved. James Hird can say what he likes and Mr Little can say what he likes and Mr Dank can say what he likes but I challenge them to inject their own children with the same substance and see whether they would do it willingly.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: Sarah thank you for calling this morning. Our phones, and our emails and our text and twitters have gone off the richter scale here just in their support of you as a mother and the sympathy that everybody has for you that you find yourself in this situation and quite obviously the desperation that you felt it compelling to ring us this morning on Triple M’s Hot Breakfast. Can you just give us an insight, one final question to you, as to why you felt compelled to ring us this morning anonymously, and we will protect your identity, but why you decided you needed to talk to somebody and to Triple M’s Hot Breakfast?
SARAH: Because Eddie, the parents haven’t been given a voice. You know we go to meetings and we get told this is what’s happening, but we haven’t been given a voice and you know, I commend Tim Watson for actually coming out and actually speaking to the media. But he is in the same situation. He’s a legend of the game. But he has also got a son playing there. So he is in an untenable situation as well. You know, the reason I rung is basically frustration. Frustration because we’ve been muzzled and a lot of our children have been muzzled.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: And Sarah can I ask you, we’ve seen the Bombers form dropping off, is that an obvious manifestation of what has happened?
SARAH: Yeah, my son has no, come game day there is no enthusiasm that was there. He used to jump out of bed. There is no enthusiasm. The enthusiasm is gone. And it’s the unknown. There’s fear. There is fear because he thinks well, you know, there is fear because he thinks well you know I may be rubbed out for three months, I may be rubbed out for a year and it is just the complete unknown. You don’t know, plus the morale, regardless of whatever is actually put to the media, the morale is awful.
MICK MOLLOY: Sarah, Sarah can I ask, what would you like to happen now? As a parent, what would you like to see happen now?
SARAH: What I would like to happen now is I would like for the Essendon or ASADA or whoever to disclose everything that the individuals were given and for Essendon and Mr Little or whoever to admit, you know for whoever to admit that they did something wrong. It’s not about cheating. I don’t actually think that the club went into this with cheating in mind. I actually think they did it thinking they could improve the health and fitness of their players. But it is the way they have gone about it. And you know, to get young men, not just my son, to get young men to sign documents, a waiver, you know that in itself, that in itself was a huge flag to me. You know if the club didn’t think they had any issues, why get them to sign documents?
EDDIE MCGUIRE: Did you try and intervene with your son and say don’t do it because of the documents? Did you have a family discussion about that Sarah?
SARAH: I only found out about the waiver after the fact. My son signed it because everybody else signed it.
LUKE DARCY: Sarah do you think the four people charged by the AFL should be punished, including James Hird?
SARAH: Well as I said before I don’t think it is about cheating, I think the word cheating needs to be dropped. What they have done is they have done things that are unethical from a moral aspect there on, and that is bringing the game into disrepute. Whether they choose to believe it or not, they have brought Essendon and the game into disrepute. And they should acknowledge they’re wrong and as I said everything in the media that has been coming out of the club at the moment is all about Essendon, the board, Mr Little, it’s all about James Hird. Nothing is about the future health concerns or future health repercussions about my child and every other parent’s child that is playing in Essendon at the moment.
EDDIE MCGUIRE: Sarah, thank you for calling.
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