It seems 90% of the recent influx of people into the hobby are looking for a quick rip and flip / pump and dump and won't be around after the bubble bursts which can't be far away with most of us being priced out of the market.
The market is slightly different now, online warehouse storage open to all, investors buying 50-100 cards at a time etcWhoa. That's a little eye opener - 3,388 Silvers. You'd have to think there are conservatively 20 x the amount of graded out there. There's probably 60,000 silvers. I have heard figures of 50,000. Provided the demand is there, and most importantly stays there, it's all good. Just don't kill the golden goose... Panini.
Probably what fueled the Bowman X product to disrupt the market also.Spot on and read some of the last posts here - https://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/threads/where-to-from-here.212668/
this is absolutely what happened to the sneaker collecting hobby, everything can be turned for a quick profit. I agree it's at a real crossroad for the hobby, everything has been monetized and no one breaks boxes or collects for the joy any more.
Absolutely - Bowman X produced by StockX - who already have a huge role in the big market of sneakers and other collectables.Probably what fueled the Bowman X product to disrupt the market also.
Box prices are changing the way people buy, packs sell well now days.
There's not 50,000, there's about 5,000-6,000. Still a whole lot more than year 1 of prizm where there were 180-220Whoa. That's a little eye opener - 3,388 Silvers. You'd have to think there are conservatively 20 x the amount of graded out there. There's probably 60,000 silvers. I have heard figures of 50,000. Provided the demand is there, and most importantly stays there, it's all good. Just don't kill the golden goose... Panini.
Hobby print run is estimated at 1,140, so 5,000 including retail is a good estimationI would say the 5000-6000 print run in actual Prizm hobby would be about right. Then there would probably be another 5000 across all the other variations like Retail, Cello, fast break Prizm and whatever name they can slap on the other variations of the same brand
Hobby print run is estimated at 1,140, so 5,000 including retail is a good estimation
https://www.sportscardanalytics.com...-19-prizm-basektball-hobby-print-run-analysis
Apologies for the slightly off topic rant but...
Personally I feel we are at the peak of another junk wax era already.
There are already so many versions of prizm it doesn't make any sense. Outside of 2 or 3 products a year the hobby couldnt care less about the other 27 or so products that are released. In recent years it's been hard to see a difference in most of those products they could literally be all interchanged with other products and wouldn't look out of place.
We see the same thing every year with one rookie getting hyped and then crashing but it's got out of hand and is driving collectors (myself included) to look at other options to enjoy the hobby or leave altogether.
It seems 90% of the recent influx of people into the hobby are looking for a quick rip and flip / pump and dump and won't be around after the bubble bursts which can't be far away with most of us being priced out of the market.
There's not 50,000, there's about 5,000-6,000. Still a whole lot more than year 1 of prizm where there were 180-220
Apologies for the slightly off topic rant but...
Personally I feel we are at the peak of another junk wax era already.
There are already so many versions of prizm it doesn't make any sense. Outside of 2 or 3 products a year the hobby couldnt care less about the other 27 or so products that are released. In recent years it's been hard to see a difference in most of those products they could literally be all interchanged with other products and wouldn't look out of place.
We see the same thing every year with one rookie getting hyped and then crashing but it's got out of hand and is driving collectors (myself included) to look at other options to enjoy the hobby or leave altogether.
It seems 90% of the recent influx of people into the hobby are looking for a quick rip and flip / pump and dump and won't be around after the bubble bursts which can't be far away with most of us being priced out of the market.
Yes, also the grading numbers include re submissions which happens quite regularlyI haven't looked into Bowman X
Are you saying that well over half of the total Silver Prizms have ended up at the graders?
Yes, also the grading numbers include re submissions which happens quite regularly
It's very high when you compare to first year silver prizms (approx. 200)Thanks for clarifying that. It seems a very low figure.
What an ugly design. To me prizm has gone backwards this year.
From what I have seen so far (mega, blaster and gravity boxes), there are a lot of vet silvers, so the silver prizm rookie to vet ratio might be low.It's very high when you compare to first year silver prizms (approx. 200)
I like the design but it has more of a select look than a prizm look, so I agree its gone backward since last years design
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