Top 100 All Time Basketball Players - Who you got?

[GarnettFan4Life]

Reworking the NBA's Top 50 list​

Kelly Dwyer
Aug 27, 2021


https://tsa.substack.com/p/reworking-the-nbas-top-50-list


Couple of interesting bits:

the list made some noise. People complained. Why was Shaq there.

Count former Celtics great Bob Cousy among those who don’t think Shaquille O’Neal belongs on the NBA's “50 greatest players of all time” list.

“He basically hasn’t won anything significant, and even his individual numbers (27.2 points, 12.5 rebounds, 2.8 blocks, 2.4 assists) haven’t been that extraordinary,” said Cousy, who was on the selection panel and did not vote for O’Neal.

If you want extraordinary numbers, Bob, try this one: $120 million for a guy who can’t make free throws.

Between Nique, English, Bernard King and Adrian Dantley, the NBA left off four of its all-time scorers, a quartet of Eighties Guys with zero rings between them. Joe Dumars, a rational Top 50 candidate then and now, was given comparatively more national support 25 years ago.





it cost Bob a spot on the Top 50 list in spite of 14 NBA campaigns at 22.1 points per game (irrelevant but Admiral ended up with 21.1 after his 14 seasons). McAdoo won an MVP award, two rings, four scoring titles, hit seven seasons of double-figure rebounds. Bob annoyed each of his teams’ home crowds, offending thousands of boomers at a time, more points for Bob.

Bob Lanier made eight All-Star teams, also in 14 sturdy seasons. The voters were absolutely far too concerned with pace when considering Shaq and Robinson.

 

[TAB1980]

Alright, here's something controversial... no Lebron James for me

1. Michael Jordan
2. Larry Bird
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Wilt Chamberlain
6. Hakeem Olajuwon
7. Steph Curry
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Magic Johnson

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Alright, here's something controversial... no Lebron James for me

1. Michael Jordan
2. Larry Bird
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Wilt Chamberlain
6. Hakeem Olajuwon
7. Steph Curry
8. Tim Duncan
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Magic Johnson

Bird over Russell too!
how come no Lebron? Too much team changing?

 

[TAB1980]

Bird over Russell too!
how come no Lebron? Too much team changing?

I have a huge opinion of Larry Bird as a player. 3 MVP's in a row against guys like Jordan, Jabbar, Magic etc. He was a monster competitor and a complete player... there was really nothing he couldn't do. Not to say Bill wasn't obviously, but it's always hard when it comes to putting players in order from different eras.

As for Lebron, while there are many examples of his greatness, there are also many examples where he chooses not to compete especially on the defensive end. His record is also not overly exceptional.

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

30 point + 30 rebound games

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

So I just got out the old SLAM magazine where they did their own 50


50. Artis Gilmore
49. Clyde Drexler
48. Robert Parish
47. Earl Monroe
46. Pete Maravich
45. Nate Archibald
44. Alex English
43. Dan Issel
42. Bernard King
41. Adrian Dantley
40. Dominique Wilkins
39. Dave DeBusschere
38. Paul Arizin
37. Billy Cunningham
36. Jerry Lucas
35. Bob McAdoo
34. Walt Bellamy
33. Nate Thurmond
32. David Robinson
31. Dolph Schayes
30. Scottie Pippen
29. Kevin McHale
28. Patrick Ewing
27. Wes Unseld
26. Dave Cowens
25. Willis Reed
24. George Mikan
23. John Stockton
22. Bob Cousy
21. Isiah Thomas
20. Walt Frazier
19. George Gervin
18. Elvin Hayes
17. Charles Barkley
16. Karl Malone
15. Moses Malone
14. John Havlicek
13. Bob Pettit
12. Rick Barry
11. Julius Erving
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Jerry West
8. Elgin Baylor
7. Oscar Robertson
6. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
5. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Larry Bird
3. Magic Johnson
2. Bill Russell
1. Michael Jordan




Up & Coming:

Shaquille O'Neal
Shawn Kemp
Grant Hill
Anfernee Hardaway
Gary Payton

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

NBA 50​	SLAM 50​
​	​
Dave Bing​	50. Artis Gilmore​
Clyde Drexler​	49. Clyde Drexler​
Robert Parish​	48. Robert Parish​
Earl Monroe​	47. Earl Monroe​
Pete Maravich​	46. Pete Maravich​
Nate Archibald​	45. Nate Archibald​
Sam Jones​	44. Alex English​
Shaquille O’Neal​	43. Dan Issel​
Bill Sharman​	42. Bernard King​
Hal Greer​	41. Adrian Dantley​
Lenny Wilkens​	40. Dominique Wilkins​
Dave DeBusschere​	39. Dave DeBusschere​
Paul Arizin​	38. Paul Arizin​
Billy Cunningham​	37. Billy Cunningham​
Jerry Lucas​	36. Jerry Lucas​
Bill Walton​	35. Bob McAdoo​
James Worthy​	34. Walt Bellamy​
Nate Thurmond​	33. Nate Thurmond​
David Robinson​	32. David Robinson​
Dolph Schayes​	31. Dolph Schayes​
Scottie Pippen​	30. Scottie Pippen​
Kevin McHale​	29. Kevin McHale​
Patrick Ewing​	28. Patrick Ewing​
Wes Unseld​	27. Wes Unseld​
Dave Cowens​	26. Dave Cowens​
Willis Reed​	25. Willis Reed​
George Mikan​	24. George Mikan​
John Stockton​	23. John Stockton​
Bob Cousy​	22. Bob Cousy​
Isiah Thomas​	21. Isiah Thomas​
Walt Frazier​	20. Walt Frazier​
George Gervin​	19. George Gervin​
Elvin Hayes​	18. Elvin Hayes​
Charles Barkley​	17. Charles Barkley​
Karl Malone​	16. Karl Malone​
Moses Malone​	15. Moses Malone​
John Havlicek​	14. John Havlicek​
Bob Pettit​	13. Bob Pettit​
Rick Barry​	12. Rick Barry​
Julius Erving​	11. Julius Erving​
Hakeem Olajuwon​	10. Hakeem Olajuwon​
Jerry West​	9. Jerry West​
Elgin Baylor​	8. Elgin Baylor​
Oscar Robertson​	7. Oscar Robertson​
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar​	6. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar​
Wilt Chamberlain​	5. Wilt Chamberlain​
Larry Bird​	4. Larry Bird​
Magic Johnson​	3. Magic Johnson​
Bill Russell​	2. Bill Russell​
Michael Jordan​	1. Michael Jordan​

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Thinking of making my list for now - player has to be retired to be on the list - what's peoples thoughts on the NBA 75 list having eg Kawhi at 75th and his career is not over but they potentially left someone more deserving off. I put Alex English in at 75.

I know this list creation is an impossible task - just throwing stuff out there for discussion

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Also - need to do more research!

I was going to leave Alex English off my Top 75 but I can't - dude retired 30 years ago and is STILL #20 all time on the scoring list!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

What's everyone's opinion on Joe Dumars? Looking at his stats I'm thinking maybe he should be on

I wonder how many Finals MVP are NOT on the Top 75

 

[Hornso]

What's everyone's opinion on Joe Dumars? Looking at his stats I'm thinking maybe he should be on

I wonder how many Finals MVP are NOT on the Top 75

Him, Billups and Igoudala are the ones that immediately come to my mind.

Did Tony Parker make it? Cedric Maxwell another.

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Him, Billups and Igoudala are the ones that immediately come to my mind.

Did Tony Parker make it? Cedric Maxwell another.

none of those you mentioned made official list. Of the other players I took Kawhi and a few others off mine and put Dwight and Manu and Alex English

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Bump

 

[Depitydog]

I weighted on different things… if they’d be dominant through several generations and if they got in their own way…

Bird Rose Because of this

Lebron, Shaq and Bill fell because of this

1. Jordan
2. Bird
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. Wilt
6. Kareem
7. Magic
8. Duncan
9. Shaq
10. Russell

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Nice ! I like to see how people think about putting their list together

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Someone add their top 20 list or something , I’m bored lol