Some monster cards back from Card Grading Australia

WoobieZarz · Aug 7, 2013

Nice results on the slabs. Not sure if it was answered, did you get the reports for each?

CGA are certainly getting more and more popular among Aussie collectors, which is what we need.

Re: busting a slabbed card, yeah not recommended. Even if it's a shit grade, it will always BE that condition (ie, it won't degrade over time). Certainly won't get any better.

I've seen and read stories of NBA collectors who've had a card graded, got say a 7/10 score, (or say 70/100), and wanted to bust it out of the slab as they determined that to be worse than a raw condition.

I HAVE done it successfully before, but wouldnt do it again. Just too risky.

troy titans douglas · Aug 7, 2013

WoobieZarz said:
Re: busting a slabbed card, yeah not recommended. Even if it's a s*** grade, it will always BE that condition (ie, it won't degrade over time). Certainly won't get any better.

I was only asking as I may want to take it out one day to put it in a folder/ Top loader folder

ooneil · Aug 7, 2013

WoobieZarz said:
Nice results on the slabs. Not sure if it was answered, did you get the reports for each?

CGA are certainly getting more and more popular among Aussie collectors, which is what we need.

Re: busting a slabbed card, yeah not recommended. Even if it's a s*** grade, it will always BE that condition (ie, it won't degrade over time). Certainly won't get any better.

I've seen and read stories of NBA collectors who've had a card graded, got say a 7/10 score, (or say 70/100), and wanted to bust it out of the slab as they determined that to be worse than a raw condition.

I HAVE done it successfully before, but wouldnt do it again. Just too risky.

Yeah sorry forgot to mention but i did get reports for each.

WoobieZarz · Aug 7, 2013

Nice, wanna post them up too? Always find them a good read, along with looking at the card(s).

Gives us a better understanding too, as to what others might grade at, etc.

jefferson · Aug 7, 2013

Very nice, Owen!

How will you go about displaying the graded cards now?

WoobieZarz I got one of my AFL cards graded earlier in the year with a report, check out the below link. It is quite a thorough report, with some aspects I would not have considered before.

http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/comm...d-grading-australia-mailday-pic-heavy.140813/

hobo · Aug 7, 2013

Nice cards Owen,

From all the comments I think CGA should look at introducing a binder or similar that allows us to display the graded cards, that to me is currently a major drawback.

Ross

ooneil · Aug 7, 2013

Well i dunno how they do it with PSA and Beckett graded cards (that have been around for years).

Perhaps Matt26 knows with this NBA knowledge how those guys store them.

Matt26 · Aug 7, 2013

I believe there are some sleeves that may accommodate graded cards.... graham gets a lot of his cards graded through PSA and he may have the good oil.

cheers
Matt

troy titans douglas · Aug 7, 2013

I would be getting a lot of cards graded if there was a folder/binder for them

ooneil · Aug 7, 2013

Cant say i have ever come across them but i found this picture of a binder.

ooneil · Aug 7, 2013

Here we go. I just fit these into 4 pocket pages.

ch0pzta · Aug 8, 2013

This might be a strange question, but ill put it out there.

Wouldnt the grading of a card have the potential to lower its value?

If you were to offer an ungraded card for sale, a buyer would see the card as fine and offer accordingly. Have the card graded and a few minor issues as mentioned in the first post bring the score to 75 or whatever, all of a sudden the buyer might view the card as flawed/not perfect and may lower the cards ability to pull the proper price.

Does this happen?

Coolidgee · Aug 8, 2013

ch0pzta said:
This might be a strange question, but ill put it out there.

Wouldnt the grading of a card have the potential to lower its value?

If you were to offer an ungraded card for sale, a buyer would see the card as fine and offer accordingly. Have the card graded and a few minor issues as mentioned in the first post bring the score to 75 or whatever, all of a sudden the buyer might view the card as flawed/not perfect and may lower the cards ability to pull the proper price.

Does this happen?

Possibly, and I think that is what woobie is saying above, where guys break cards out of slabs if they don't get the grade they expected. Personally I wouldn't be sending one unless I was very confident of the grade. Also, as long as you get a grade of near mint or better, I would think it couldn't possibly lower the value

WoobieZarz · Aug 8, 2013

^ Yeah I've seen it happen with NBA stuff.

Thing about graded cards, is once it's graded, it's done. The value SHOULD be pretty much locked in for life. ie, the quality shouldnt decrease over time from handling, etc. - a raw card, ungraded can move around, change hands, change cases, etc, etc, which degrade its condition.

Say a card receives a 6 or 7 rating, a rating most would consider poor for a modern card (older/vintage cards are a whole new kettle of fish). But that 6 or 7 graded card, might come across as less of a value to a raw (ungraded) version of the same card. An ungraded version, always has the possibility to grade higher (than the 6 or 7 card). 8.5 and up in ratings, IMO, are more appealing (again, in modern cards) than an ungraded card.

I personally prefer 9s or 10s when it comes to graded cards. Just my preference.

WoobieZarz · Aug 8, 2013

jefferson said:
Very nice, Owen!

How will you go about displaying the graded cards now?

WoobieZarz I got one of my AFL cards graded earlier in the year with a report, check out the below link. It is quite a thorough report, with some aspects I would not have considered before.

http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/comm...d-grading-australia-mailday-pic-heavy.140813/

Hey Jefferson, nice card and grade!

The report was very clear, and explains exactly why they couldnt give it a 100! #GreatStuff

supertoad · Aug 8, 2013

Awesome graded cards. Massive names too, Gaz/Raper and Prince Locky. Cheers for showin'.

ch0pzta · Aug 8, 2013

Do they make comments on the quality of the signatures?

ooneil · Aug 8, 2013

ch0pzta said:
This might be a strange question, but ill put it out there.

Wouldnt the grading of a card have the potential to lower its value?

If you were to offer an ungraded card for sale, a buyer would see the card as fine and offer accordingly. Have the card graded and a few minor issues as mentioned in the first post bring the score to 75 or whatever, all of a sudden the buyer might view the card as flawed/not perfect and may lower the cards ability to pull the proper price.

Does this happen?

I think the opposite actually. If a card is flawed then its flawed whether its graded or not. The point here is if your a buyer you know exactly what your getting rather than a seller saying the old "judge the condition for yourself from the photo".

ch0pzta said:
Do they make comments on the quality of the signatures?

Signatures are graded separately i believe. I would have to clarify that exactly though.

ch0pzta · Aug 8, 2013

I might check these guys out, wouldnt mind getting a couple of my "stay in PC forever" cards done (01 Girdler, 04 Gower, 07 Wesser).

mischap123 · Aug 13, 2013

I was under the impression that they didn't grade signed cards. When did this change or am I totally wrong here?

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