Shoulder charged banned :(

jrinbulli · Nov 20, 2012

Just heard that the NRL has decided to ban the shoulder charge. I have to say that really pisses me off & feel its only going to make the game less appealing and result in more penalties & suspensions from accidental contact from players that's deemed a shoulder charge.
What's everyone's thoughts on the ban?

ooneil · Nov 20, 2012

I dont care to much.

I kinda get sick of the cheap shots where a guy does not see it coming and nearly gets killed. They really need to cut out the viscous head shots for the players own safety.

Dragon_Fire · Nov 20, 2012

The shoulder charge is great to watch if done correctly.
But can turn very ugly if not preformed the right way with shoulders coming into contact with opponents heads.
I think the nrl has a duty of care to its players..... its a shame when it comes at the cost of a great part of the game.

tak35bne · Nov 20, 2012

ooneil said:
I dont care to much.

I kinda get sick of the cheap shots where a guy does not see it coming and nearly gets killed. They really need to cut out the viscous head shots for the players own safety.

Agreed, happy for the shoulder charge to go so lets petition the NRL to bring back a proper scrum, one where the hooker has to play for the ball that is fed into the tunnel, where the props have to actually prop up the hooker so he can do his job and where the second row and lock actually get to push instead of just bending over for a cuddle.

lol

footycardswaps · Nov 20, 2012

It's one of those big decisions that the Omnipotent Chairman of the NRL Commission The Right Honourable Mr John Grant OBE OOOAB wants to bring in to stamp his AUTHORITY on the game, this will appease all those concerned Parents out there that are worried that their future Superstar WINGER sons just like the ARLC Chairman was will not suffer the same fate that he did when he was ironed out playing for Brisbane Souths by the Big Mahn Darryl Brohman in what was perhaps one of the finest tackles of his career as a 17 year old up and coming forward for the Norths Devils.
I was no great shakes as a Senior player but now they look like outlawing the only other thing* I was good at by the time I finished playing at the age of 32 in 1991 in a team that didn't win a game all season.

Muzza · Nov 20, 2012

My only concern is that the game doesn't go the way of Union as far as tackling restrictions goes. That game has been rendered a sham by rule technicalities. By RU standards a shoulder charge is defined by any contact where the arms are not used, which is just plain wrong, too reliant on individual interpretation (and we all know how the NRL ref's are tracking in that department). I hope the NRL use some common sense with there rule terminology. They were moving in the right direction, no contact with the head being the paramount concern, but to ban the shoulder charge completely is crazy. Just making another rod for their backs IMO.

brentus777 · Nov 20, 2012

This sucks, stop messing with the game!

KyleP · Nov 20, 2012

Don't really care either way...at least this will stop grubs putting on a sickening hit and only getting a few weeks e.g. Inglis

footycardswaps · Nov 20, 2012

Twenty odd years ago when I still playing the game I was also coaching a Under 10 side in it's formative years who would later go on to win a Group 10 Premiership as Bathurst Railway but then got hijacked by another more Ruthless organisation, but I digress, I had this kid that came to the club a couple of years before from Forbes and even though he played at half back he was one of the hardest hitting tacklers I had ever witnessed, copy book stuff where he just picked up the opposing player and drove them backward, unfortunately just like most of the Immortal John Raper's tackles they are now illegal as they go over the horizontal, they were skills from another era and they were skills that have since been outlawed.
What really upsets me is that they were some of the things that I was actually good at, I'd race into marker and rake the ball back to get our side possesion, I knew when to put on a good shoulder charge to stir the team mates up and I could play the ball forward to gain much needed ground, but when It came to ball stealing the opposition got it every time all these tricks I tried in a side that was stone motherless last are now foreign to todays clinically coached players, I suppose that these things don't make for good TV viewing, just like feeding the ball in the middle of the scrum but fair dinkum a good shoulder charge is part of the game and it's only the one in a hundred that goes wrong but we really have to accept that, Mark Geyer in the Origin in 1991 and Greg Inglis in 2012, not that much of a big deal.

ooneil · Nov 20, 2012

Yeah i think litigation is also part of the reason why they are doing this.

The NFL is currently being sued for billions by thousands of ex-players for concussions on the basis that they NFL did not do enough to protect them while they are playing. Im sure somewhere in the NRL lawyers have tapped them on the back and told them they better appear to be better protecting players.

the game rugby league · Nov 20, 2012

tak35bne said:
Agreed, happy for the shoulder charge to go so lets petition the NRL to bring back a proper scrum, once where the hooker has to play for the ball that is fed into the tunnel, where the props have to actually prop up the hooker so he can do his job and where the second row and lock actually get to push instead of just bending over for a cuddle.

lol

I watched the 1981 grand final just recently does not seem that long ago {must be getting old} It was good to watch steve edge win against the feed at the most crucial moments of the game. When real scrums and skilled hookers played the game. A little off the shoulder charge. Bring back the scrum

jonnov0007 · Nov 20, 2012

i blame the judiciary process for this, if they actually be consistant and ban players for what they should ,players would think twice and have more care.

mischap123 · Nov 20, 2012

SOFT! I hate the decision

Brett. · Nov 20, 2012

ooneil said:
I dont care to much.

I kinda get sick of the cheap shots where a guy does not see it coming and nearly gets killed. They really need to cut out the viscous head shots for the players own safety.

I don't think there are that many cheap shots these days and as for vicious head shots, i can't remember the last time i saw a player deliberately attack the head of an opponent.
What gets me is certain players laying down after copping an open hand across the face...cue Watmough and co. Our great game has slowly been made pathetic by stupid rule changes ever since Super League.....and don't get me started on that rubbish !!!!

shane_sharks · Nov 21, 2012

John Grant is a muppet

Muzza · Nov 21, 2012

ooneil said:
Yeah i think litigation is also part of the reason why they are doing this.

The NFL is currently being sued for billions by thousands of ex-players for concussions on the basis that they NFL did not do enough to protect them while they are playing. Im sure somewhere in the NRL lawyers have tapped them on the back and told them they better appear to be better protecting players.

This is probably at the heart of the whole decision, and it still sux.

It is a high speed, high impact, contact sport for F's sake!!! Don't wanna get hurt = don't play.

It's like the NRL keep tying their shoelaces together - wipe out the head shots, the spear tackles, the cannon-balls and the rest (even the biters) by way of the existing judicial format. Don't make knee jerk decisions to appease the vocal minority and bastardise our game.

Phewww!!!

ooneil · Nov 21, 2012

The players need to be protected from themselves. I read some stuff on recent NFL studies that show players suffering repeated concussions have a higher rate of brain trauma (causing things like Alzheimer and memory loss), die sooner and have a higher suicide rate. That's not cool.

Plus the stats i saw this morning show its a pretty minor part of the game. The biggest issue I see will be the idiots with the whistles in the middle trying to interpret the rule.

GiRDS- · Nov 21, 2012

Yay lets go all full on and use union rules. And sign sonny bill and quade cooper an the likes. Keep going nrl soon ill be watching and collecting afl

KyleP · Nov 21, 2012

ooneil said:
The players need to be protected from themselves. I read some stuff on recent NFL studies that show players suffering repeated concussions have a higher rate of brain trauma (causing things like Alzheimer and memory loss), die sooner and have a higher suicide rate. That's not cool.

Plus the stats i saw this morning show its a pretty minor part of the game. The biggest issue I see will be the idiots with the whistles in the middle trying to interpret the rule.

This, the last thing the referees need is another rule for them to interpret their own way.

GiRDS- said:
Yay lets go all full on and use union rules. And sign sonny bill and quade cooper an the likes. Keep going nrl soon ill be watching and collecting afl

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Carter · Nov 21, 2012

jonnov0007 said:
i blame the judiciary process for this, if they actually be consistant and ban players for what they should ,players would think twice and have more care.

I totally agree!

Shoulder charged banned :(

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