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Dodgydave · Jan 7, 2024

And there's a tax on importing items over a certain value.

It's to protect local businesses who employ, you know, Australians.

I owned an import/wholesale business for years, so have paid my fair share of taxes, duties and tariffs, but also understand why they exist.

I don't have a dog in this fight, as I am not even Australian, but just consider if you have previously not been paying taxes when you should have then you have been lucky.

You should rejoice in your customs officers usual ineptitude rather than abusing the occasional competence!

GarnettFan4Life · Jan 7, 2024

Matt26 · Jan 7, 2024

Dodgydave said:
And there's a tax on importing items over a certain value.

It's to protect local businesses who employ, you know, Australians.

I owned an import/wholesale business for years, so have paid my fair share of taxes, duties and tariffs, but also understand why they exist.

I don't have a dog in this fight, as I am not even Australian, but just consider if you have previously not been paying taxes when you should have then you have been lucky.

You should rejoice in your customs officers usual ineptitude rather than abusing the occasional competence!

View: https://youtu.be/e97kq2XflKE?si=XRCKLeESW8DPsQe1

if anybody in this country doesn't minimise their tax they want their heads read because as a government I can tell you you're not spending it that well that we should be donating extra!

drobfan8 · Jan 7, 2024

Matt26 said:
View: https://youtu.be/e97kq2XflKE?si=XRCKLeESW8DPsQe1

if anybody in this country doesn't minimise their tax they want their heads read because as a government I can tell you you're not spending it that well that we should be donating extra!

Brilliant stuff and spot on. Ha ha.

It might become cheaper down the line to fly to the US and load up on cards if you're buying to sell.

It does make it pretty rough on us hobbyists who already get ebay skimming, then PayPal, then the exchange rate, and now more tax.

It gets a bit ridiculous.

Dodgydave · Jan 7, 2024

Matt26 said:
View: https://youtu.be/e97kq2XflKE?si=XRCKLeESW8DPsQe1

if anybody in this country doesn't minimise their tax they want their heads read because as a government I can tell you you're not spending it that well that we should be donating extra!

And fair enough too.

Now, instead of whining about GST, people should follow Packer's example and engage their brains and figure out one of the really simple ways of "minimising" it. (ie avoiding it, or at least claiming it back.)

Iron Clad Lou · Jan 7, 2024

Dodgydave said:
And fair enough too.

Now, instead of whining about GST, people should follow Packer's example and engage their brains and figure out one of the really simple ways of "minimising" it. (ie avoiding it, or at least claiming it back.)

ABN number time. I'll have to go to the taxman and get his thoughts

1980bust · Jan 7, 2024

Yep. That's my reasoning too. These pricks want to add their own tax on top of taxes already paid for transactions that took place 100% out of Australia.

Also, if knowing that every dollar I earn the government immediately takes well over 30% of it already,
plus the tens of thousands of dollars I pay in income tax every year, plus the GST on basically every single Australian transaction,
plus the 30 different taxes and levies I pay before I even get out of bed in the morning,
plus the range of local, state, and Federal government fees and levies across every aspect of my life,
plus the fact I watch governments waste untold amounts of taxpayer money on things like $380 billion worth of soon-to-be-obsolete submarines while people around the country face starvation, ill health and homelessness,
plus seeing the value of my dollars shrink due to inflation,
plus watching the absolutely unfathomable amount of taxes avoided by business through legal and illegal means,
plus watching the insane amount of tax breaks and subsidies that go to people who need them the least...

If all of that isn't enough to get these absolute fuckheads to stop dipping their hands into my pockets every second of every day so they don't need to chase people for a couple of hundred dollars of bullshit revenue raising from TRANSACTIONS OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA, then I don't know what to say.

If they need to raise funds, here's an idea - reduce the obscene levels of public service bloat, and see how much that totals.

Iron Clad Lou · Jan 8, 2024

Not sure I like what I just read.

pykie · Jan 8, 2024

I was going to start undertaking sending cards directly to PSA and having them delivered back to SMC/GISI then decide on consignment to the US houses or send home.

As I disliked the prospect of submitting small lots to PSA in sub $1000 lots.

Making me rethink that stretegy if I can't send bunches of graded cards home.

The Hobby etc run a great service, but I can grade about 20% more cards by going direct for the same amount, as well as picking up a fair bit of time, as they are usually mailed once a month.

Limiting return shipments from PSA to $1000 USD of the end value is highly restrictive and will mean massive postage costs.

(I mean, why the hell does the ABF need to take a cut of the end value of a card rather than just the grading cost beats me)

Iron Clad Lou · Jan 8, 2024

pykie said:
I was going to start undertaking sending cards directly to PSA and having them delivered back to SMC/GISI then decide on consignment to the US houses or send home.

Making me rethink that stretegy if I can't send bunches of graded cards home.

The Hobby etc run a great service, but I can grade about 20% more cards by going direct for the same amount, as well as picking up a fair bit of time, as they are usually mailed once a month.

Limiting return shipments from PSA to $1000 USD of the end value is highly restrictive and will mean massive postage costs.

(I mean, why the hell does the ABF need to take a cut of the end value of a card rather than just the grading cost beats me)

Maybe try a non-sport card consolidation company.

Maybe if they don't see the card company, they'll less likely check it deeper

pykie · Jan 8, 2024

Iron Clad Lou said:
Maybe try a non-sport card consolidation company.

Maybe if they don't see the card company, they'll less likely check it deeper

It's bad timing, as I have around 300-400 cards of varying low-high end I wanted to bring home to run a few facebook sales as well as do a big submission to PSA.

Now worried about it and deciding whether I need to break them up.

There's plenty of $100-$200+ raw cards in it.

Again, breaking it up into <$1000 AUD units will mean about 10 shipments.

They don't make it easy on us.

Maybe the solution is using USA based grading services that offers cleaning direct from GISI or SMC.

Even then, I like to see cards in my hands for a few reasons, one is the inner collector, the second is it's hard to vet condition, centering etc from a photo and a decent % of every shipment has no buisness going to these grading providers.

Iron Clad Lou · Jan 8, 2024

pykie said:
It's bad timing, as I have around 300-400 cards of varying low-high end I wanted to bring home to run a few face book sales as well as do a big submission to PSA.

Now worried about it and deciding whether I need to break them up.

There's plenty of $100-$200+ raw cards in it.

Again, breaking it up into <$1000 AUD units will mean about 10 shipments.

They don't make it easier on us.

Mine is stuck atm. I am just waiting for the phone call/email

pykie · Jan 8, 2024

Iron Clad Lou said:
Mine is stuck atm. I am just waiting for the phone call/email

Confirmed siezed by customs?

Iron Clad Lou · Jan 8, 2024

pykie said:
Confirmed siezed by customs?

Not confirmed, but it's been sitting for a while so as usual, expecting the worst.

I will update the thread if I hear anything.

pykie · Jan 8, 2024

How do The Hobby etc get around this?

Presumably they are registered for GST, are paying GST on the grading service they charge etc.

But how does this differ from the average person submitting a bunch of cards and paying grading costs direct to PSA? Why would you be charged tax on the end value of the card in this instance?

Iron Clad Lou · Jan 8, 2024

pykie said:
How do The Hobby etc get around this?

Presumably they are registered for GST, are paying GST on the grading service they charge etc.

But how does this differ from the average person submitting a bunch of cards and paying grading costs direct to PSA? Why would you be charged tax on the end value of the card in this instance?

Absolutely no idea.

I might have to set up an ABN and claim all the tax I pay if I keep using it going forward. Will need an accountant's advice i reckon

benny.collects · Jan 8, 2024

Iron Clad Lou said:
Maybe try a non-sport card consolidation company.

Maybe if they don't see the card company, they'll less likely check it deeper

This is a thought. But I think the sender sstill has to declare 'trading cards' as the items being sent over, regardless of listed as either gift, merchandise etc.

Iron Clad Lou · Jan 8, 2024

Got done. DON'T SEND ANYTHING BACK.

I have no idea what or how i am going to resolve this.

Do i need a broker? Can i do it myself?

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We need the following documents asap:

1. Proof of payment for the goods such as EFT bank transfer or Contract of Sale.

2. Suppliers actual commercial invoice with total matching proof of payment.

3. Your company Purchase Order.

4. Illustrative Descriptive Materials (image-photo, data, material) IDM required for clearance process.

pykie · Jan 8, 2024

Iron Clad Lou said:
Got done. DON'T SEND ANYTHING BACK.

I have no idea what or how i am going to resolve this.

Do i need a broker? Can i do it myself?

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We need the following documents asap:

1. Proof of payment for the goods such as EFT bank transfer or Contract of Sale.

2. Suppliers actual commercial invoice with total matching proof of payment.

3. Your company Purchase Order.

4. Illustrative Descriptive Materials (image-photo, data, material) IDM required for clearance process.

I mean, what an absolute pain in the ass.

Especially considering a % of my cards are from US facebook sales and can be stretched back up to 12 months. You aren't getting an actual commercial invoice total matching proof of payment from a facebook sale.

There's no law to say I have to purchase something from a store in the United States.

How much did you send?

Iron Clad Lou · Jan 8, 2024

pykie said:
I mean, what an absolute pain in the ass.

Especially considering a % of my cards are from US facebook sales and can be stretched back up to 12 months. You aren't getting an actual commercial invoice total matching proof of payment from a facebook sale.

There's no law to say I have to purchase something from a store in the United States.

How much did you send?

115 items

I am cooked.

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