Paypal scammer need help!!!

edac6942 · Oct 17, 2014

Hi to all,

Im in a paypal dispute because i paid for a $1000 card and received a $10 card.

Now paypal is asking and requires documents, heres what they said.

The requested document should be provided by an unbiased third-party, such as a dealer, appraiser or another individual or organisation that’s qualified in the area of the item in question (other than yourself), which clearly identifies the item as unauthentic.

What does this all mean?
What are they asking,or what do they want?

I cant let this scammer get away with this, its outrageous how someone would have the heart to do s*#t like this.

Thanks to all who can help in advance.

nichj99 · Oct 17, 2014

What is the card you received vs what you paid for?

ozballer23 · Oct 17, 2014

They are asking for someone who is qualified to value the card you have received as $10.

MJ23BULLS · Oct 17, 2014

I can probably help with this, assuming its an MJ card....

edac6942 · Oct 17, 2014

Well yes of course Gary lol.

Bought a 97/98 ultra stars gold but received a 95/96 ultra gold medallion wich is night and day between them.

It was from a big seller 5000+ feedback( vicator nba cards)

Well who can i get to authenticate it, its just silly and does not make any sense if its a completly diff card all together?????

Thanks Norm for the reply
But who can i use?

drobfan8 · Oct 17, 2014

What has the seller said about this?

May have been a monumental error. Otherwise, name and shame.

MJ23BULLS · Oct 17, 2014

edac6942 said:
Well yes of course Gary lol.

Bought a 97/98 ultra stars gold but received a 95/96 ultra gold medallion wich is night and day between them.

It was from a big seller 5000+ feedback( vicator nba cards)

Well who can i get to authenticate it, its just silly and does not make any sense if its a completly diff card all together?????

Thanks Norm for the reply
But who can i use?

Link to the listing?

You can email it to me if you don't want to put it here...

Ultra Stars Gold for $1000 is crazy cheap, that tells me there's an issue straight away...

ozballer23 · Oct 17, 2014

A letter from a business owner or a professional grader would be what I suspect they would accept.

edac6942 · Oct 17, 2014

Item number for the ultra stars that was ended early is
Ebay.com 231333031093.

So a random business owner?
Where am i gona find a pro grader in syd?

ozballer23 · Oct 17, 2014

edac6942 said:
Item number for the ultra stars that was ended early is
Ebay.com 231333031093.

So a random business owner?
Where am i gona find a pro grader in syd?

I believe Card Grading Australia is located in Sydney, and I was referring to a card related business, someone who sells singles.

skip20 · Oct 17, 2014

Or even get a raw card review or something from BGS etc. If you can't take Beckett as an authority for sports card then there aren't many authorities left! Good luck mate for what sounds like an absolute dog act.

MJ23BULLS · Oct 17, 2014

I don't think you need to go that far as to get it graded or authenticated from a grader...

The card you got isn't the card that was for sale in the listing...Simple, Paypal case (not as described) and you will win...

If you need any further proof, I think a MOD from this site would be enough, if not, get on the Beckett site get the info on both cards with pics and link Paypal the info, that should be more then enough....

I've had a paypal case asking the same thing and all I did is show pics...

The seller ended it early and obviously that's what he's trying to get out of..

Verse1 · Oct 17, 2014

For the few $ a one player subscription to Beckett should do the trick. Should give you the book value differences atleast? But it shouldn't be necessary, as said above just show them the card you received and what you were supposed to receive.

Fuggin' cockroaches!

edac6942 · Oct 17, 2014

I agree with you Gary,

What i received is a total diffrent item i dont see the reason why i have to get it authenticated because it will be authentic!!!!!!!!!!

I have sent to paypal
1.pic of the package with the card
2.ebay item number of what i paid for but did not receive.

What is an MOD?

Verse1 · Oct 17, 2014

MOD = forum moderator @Matt26 @Billyhoyle etc

Billyhoyle · Oct 17, 2014

happy to be of assistance not sure if they would recognise my title though!

edac6942 · Oct 17, 2014

So would that mean that they would try to contact you??
If i did use a MOD?

edac6942 · Oct 18, 2014

hey Norm,

ozballer23 said:
A letter from a business owner or a professional grader would be what I suspect they would accept.

but paypal is asking someone to identify it as unauthentic though, but what i received would be authentic.
i don't think they understand the situation.

Carter · Oct 18, 2014

Were you the seller or the buyer?

I guess this is you selling this card!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JORDAN-1997-98-ULTRA-STARS-GOLD-RAREST-TO-FIND-REFRACTOR-/321529658340?pt=AU_Basketball_Sporting_Equipment&hash=item4adca93be4&nma=true&si=OFfecJt7mNgNNaBNPH51xIqpowo%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Where is the link to the actual ebay sale page, if i may ask!

Is this the sellers item(s) that you are refering too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-98-Ult...25134414?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item4d2484564e

This item was sold!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1995-96-Ult...20170865?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item4d24389971

Very confusing!

edac6942 · Oct 18, 2014

I sold MY ultra stars gold yes.
About a week before,because i thought i got a good deal with the US seller.

So while i waited for the US gold stars to arrive i decided to put mine up for sale and got a good offer on it and sold it.

So when the package arrived this was in it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1995-96-Ult...20170865?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item4d24389971

Now im pulling my hair out because i dont have my ultra stars gold anymore
Plus i have paypal to deal with because of this scumbag.

The ebay item number for his ultra stars gold.
:231333031093

Paypal scammer need help!!!

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