Official ESP 2016 NRL Traders Thread (Sell Sheet Page 14)

And the fish makes its appearance!
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Depends on the player and the number but I would imagine $300 -$400 starting

- This is what I don't get... A card limited to 100 is anticipated at $3-400 But a league sensation limited to 130, Expectation is $100 or less???
I don't get it - Never have....

It seems to always relate back to the amount per case or whatever.... I don't get how that matters.
If there's 40, There's 40 - If there's 600 - there's 600....

A Tigers star sig from 2010 (?) is still $100 - Every day of the week... And there's 600 of them.
A 2013 Tigers League sensation, (Limited to 130) Barely manages to fetch over $100, And that's only cos it's Benji....

I bought a Jersey numbered 2014 for $65.00..... It's NUTS!!
 
- This is what I don't get... A card limited to 100 is anticipated at $3-400 But a league sensation limited to 130, Expectation is $100 or less???
I don't get it - Never have....

It seems to always relate back to the amount per case or whatever.... I don't get how that matters.
If there's 40, There's 40 - If there's 600 - there's 600....

A Tigers star sig from 2010 (?) is still $100 - Every day of the week... And there's 600 of them.
A 2013 Tigers League sensation, (Limited to 130) Barely manages to fetch over $100, And that's only cos it's Benji....

I bought a Jersey numbered 2014 for $65.00..... It's NUTS!!

Totally agree..... boggles the mind actually.
 
Totally agree..... boggles the mind actually.

It does mine, being new into the collecting scene is one of the reasons I asked the original question.
Ive been researching prices and while the number of cards produced obviously effects value greatly there appears there are other things at play.
To me it appears demand has a massive effect, more people collecting a series will mean higher prices even for cards that have a bigger production run, player or club popularity and how often they become available all seem to come into it.
I guess with a new release demand is high and there are always far more people chasing cards than available, as some decide to give up the search prices come back some what.
Guess it all comes down to supply and demand in the end.
 
Yep also agree, just can't work it out. Those 13 Elite signatures are very underpriced IMO.

Great looking cards, top player selection, /130. The only thing that let that set down was the different thickness of pens used. Even the Future Stars set from that release are great with some players who are now killing it.

You can get a Shaun Johnson LS for under $100 but yet his TP from Dynasty is around 70 with more than double the amount produced.
 
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I think it looks better upside down like we see in that photo. It looks like a happy vampire rather than a fish :lol:

I have it all figured out!

His signature has been nicknamed 'the fish' and we all know that the fish is a universal symbol for Jesus Christ.

His initials are JC so it might be a little personal joke or he truly is the savior to lead Canberra to premiership glory!!
 
- This is what I don't get... A card limited to 100 is anticipated at $3-400 But a league sensation limited to 130, Expectation is $100 or less???
I don't get it - Never have....

It seems to always relate back to the amount per case or whatever.... I don't get how that matters.
If there's 40, There's 40 - If there's 600 - there's 600....

A Tigers star sig from 2010 (?) is still $100 - Every day of the week... And there's 600 of them.
A 2013 Tigers League sensation, (Limited to 130) Barely manages to fetch over $100, And that's only cos it's Benji....

I bought a Jersey numbered 2014 for $65.00..... It's NUTS!!

I'm with you on this. Its like the quads I know they aren't signed but you can get them for $60-80 and there is only 65 of them, but a dynamic duo /100 goes for $250 plus.
 
I'm with you on this. Its like the quads I know they aren't signed but you can get them for $60-80 and there is only 65 of them, but a dynamic duo /100 goes for $250 plus.

I think with those kinds of cards you have to consider the overall production run though. A Quad is /65 but two per team which is 130 x 16 which is 2080 Quads in total. The duo's are /100 but only three teams (from 15 Traders) so only 300 total run and in terms of odds much harder to get, 1 per five or six cases as opposed to Quads which were 3 or 4 per case
 
With the signature cards I recall Elite 13 starting really high. Most were going for over $200 per card in the first month (I paid $130 for a Shillington) but as this product was released into Newsagents in such high volumes everyone was pulling signatures, the market became flooded and prices really dropped. There were not many places in Brisbane where you could go and buy loose packets of Dynasty but everywhere had elite.
 
The logic seems crazy, but I figure it's due to availability. There's probably still 5000+ unopened boxed of some of those champs, traders series. So half of those cards are still not found. Elite on the other hand were pretty much a hit a box, and they flooded the market (I'm not complaining, I was super happy busting the 2014 elite boxes!), but there wouldn't be a couple thousand boxes left over. I busted around $800 on traders 2014 , for nothing but a few faces of the game which are worth less than $1 each now. In the end, paying $300 each for the duos would have saved me so much money! This traders series seems to hopefully be less of a flop, a few extra sigs might change the dynamic a bit. But I'm gonna go $200 a signature card. Unless they're one signature per case, they'll be surfacing a little bit easier, and more people will be willing to take the chance.
 
The logic seems crazy, but I figure it's due to availability. There's probably still 5000+ unopened boxed of some of those champs, traders series. So half of those cards are still not found. Elite on the other hand were pretty much a hit a box, and they flooded the market (I'm not complaining, I was super happy busting the 2014 elite boxes!), but there wouldn't be a couple thousand boxes left over. I busted around $800 on traders 2014 , for nothing but a few faces of the game which are worth less than $1 each now. In the end, paying $300 each for the duos would have saved me so much money! This traders series seems to hopefully be less of a flop, a few extra sigs might change the dynamic a bit. But I'm gonna go $200 a signature card. Unless they're one signature per case, they'll be surfacing a little bit easier, and more people will be willing to take the chance.

- I hear ya, But that theory holds no weight as well....

The All Star Sigs (From 2000) are still around the $100 mark - And there is 500 of them!!
I can't imagine there is many (if any) cases of that lying around unbusted?

I've discussed it to exhaustion with different people, For every justification you try to make on Pricing, Availability etc.
A counter theory pops up that negates it...

Lucky to get a Benji Marshall (Tigers / 260) future force ten years after it was released for under $150
- Yet a Benji Marshall (Tigers / 130) Sensation goes for $100

Simply put - There is no rhyme or reason behind most of the numbers and cost....
It drives me bonkers!!
 
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