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ozballer23 · Jul 4, 2012

gemini0928 said:
Will that situation become awkward for both parties?

Possibly, but NO had said from the start that they would match any offer for him, so all parties knew what they were up against prior to any offers being made or signed.

ozballer23 · Jul 4, 2012

Rudy Fernandez

Rudy Fernandez: Tomorrow, my deal with Real Madrid for three years will be oficial. Really happy to be back! I will tell you why I've taken this decision!! Twitter

gemini0928 · Jul 4, 2012

One of my favorite Spanish player... Not a bad decision for him to do. Since he's proven he can really be in the NBA, might be better for him to continue playing where he is comfortable doing it.

ozballer23 said:
Rudy Fernandez

ozballer23 · Jul 4, 2012

gemini0928 said:
One of my favorite Spanish player... Not a bad decision for him to do. Since he's proven he can really be in the NBA, might be better for him to continue playing where he is comfortable doing it.

Good $, playing at home, why not!

gemini0928 · Jul 4, 2012

yeah why not. euro teams pay almost same value as nba teams right? Or at least for those who have shown their worth.

ozballer23 said:
Good $, playing at home, why not!

drobfan8 · Jul 4, 2012

ozguy3825 said:
well to me if u look at it in black and white they both play PG so the question is which 1 would u pick straight up as a player? Dwill is more of a standard PG where as Rose is more of the score first type guy. I also forgot about Rondo for me he's well ahead of Dwill too. This isnt a knock on Dwill i've always liked the guys game just not right at the top for me like some people r saying.

Rondo is probably a better passer. But he's also played with HOF'ers. I'd love to see Deron in that team. He's got a way better shot (even though Rondo has improved) and is much tougher on the drive as he can finish with a dunk.He would kill it in the pick n roll with K.G.

I'd put D Will ahead of Rose too, just. Rose is amazing but he's shoot first and Deron is a better shooter and just as good a finisher + a better passer.

I think there really is only 1 guy well ahead and that's CP3. Obviously you could argue it out for the rest of them but to ask what the fuss about Deron is might be going a bit far bud.

I've said it a few times, if I was Dwight I'd want to play with the best PG. That's CP3. If that can't happen, either Rondo or D. Will, then you go with Nash or D. Rose etc.

ozballer23 · Jul 4, 2012

gemini0928 said:
yeah why not. euro teams pay almost same value as nba teams right? Or at least for those who have shown their worth.

I think it's tax free for them too in Europe....

drobfan8 · Jul 4, 2012

I still think there's some surprises to come in this FA. Anyone know much about Ilyasova?

Where will T. Duncan go

What about Ryan Anderson?

I have a feeling G. Hill will join the Heat??? I'm pretty sure he still has a place in Florida.

Hopefully the Spurs can grab M. Camby and gain a bit more height and toughness.

drobfan8 · Jul 4, 2012

ozballer23 said:
I think it's tax free for them too in Europe....

You can't beat dodging the tax man

drobfan8 · Jul 4, 2012

Also Jameer Nelson off the bench might help a team.

Can Rashard Lewis still give you anything? Can't believe the money he was on.

Gilbert Arenas???

ozballer23 · Jul 4, 2012

drobfan8 said:
Also Jameer Nelson off the bench might help a team.

Can Rashard Lewis still give you anything? Can't believe the money he was on.

Gilbert Arenas???

Arenas jworked out LA, not sure where that went. Felton is another forgotten name. Word is NY wants him back!

ozballer23 · Jul 4, 2012

Full list of free agents courtesy of Hoopshype.com

Atlanta
Hawks Jason Collins, Erick Dampier, Willie Green, Kirk Hinrich, Ivan Johnson (R), Tracy McGrady, Jannero Pargo, Vladimir Radmanovic and Jerry Stackhouse.
Miami
Heat Eddy Curry, Terrel Harris, Juwan Howard and Ronny Turiaf.
Boston
Celtics
Ray Allen, Brandon Bass, Marquis Daniels, Keyon Dooling, Kevin Garnett, Jeff Green, Ryan Hollins, Aleksandar Pavlovic, Mickael Pietrus and Greg Stiemsma.
Milwaukee
Bucks Kwame Brown, Carlos Delfino and Ersan Ilyasova.
Brooklyn
Nets
Sundiata Gaines, Gerald Green, Kris Humphries, Damion James, Armon Johnson, Brook Lopez (R), DeShawn Stevenson, Gerald Wallace, Deron Williams and Shelden Williams.
Minnesota
Timberwolves Michael Beasley, Anthony Randolph and Anthony Tolliver.
Charlotte
Bobcats DJ Augustin (R), Derrick Brown (R), Cory Higgins, Jamario Moon, Eduardo Najera and DJ White.
New Orleans
Hornets Marco Belinelli, Eric Gordon (R), Chris Kaman, Carl Landry and Rashard Lewis.
Chicago
Bulls Omer Asik (R), Mike James, John Lucas and Brian Scalabrine.
New York
Knicks Mike Bibby, Baron Davis, Landry Fields (R), Jared Jeffries, Jeremy Lin (R), Steve Novak and JR Smith.
Cleveland
Cavaliers Alonzo Gee (R), Luke Harangody (R), Manny Harris and Antawn Jamison
Oklahoma City
Thunder Derek Fisher, Royal Ivey and Nazr Mohammed.
Dallas
Mavericks Brian Cardinal, Jason Kidd, Ian Mahinmi, Jason Terry, Delonte West and Yi Jianlian.
Orlando
Magic Ryan Anderson (R), Jameer Nelson , Daniel Orton, Ishmael Smith and DeAndre Liggins (R).
Denver
Nuggets JaVale McGee (R) and Andre Miller.
Philadelphia
76ers Lavoy Allen (R), Tony Battie, Craig Brackins, Spencer Hawes, Jodie Meeks, Xavier Silas, Sam Young and Louis Williams.
Detroit
Pistons Vernon Macklin, Walker Russell, Ben Wallace and Damien Wilkins.
Phoenix
Suns Aaron Brooks (R), Shannon Brown, Grant Hill, Robin Lopez (R), Steve Nash, Ronnie Price and Michael Redd.
Golden State
Warriors Mickell Gladness, Dominic McGuire, Mikki Moore, Nate Robinson, Brandon Rush (R) and Chris Wright.
Portland
Trail Blazes Nicolas Batum (R), Jamal Crawford, Raymond Felton, Jonny Flynn, JJ Hickson, Joel Przybilla, Craig Smith and Hasheem Thabeet.
Houston
Rockets Earl Boykins, Marcus Camby, Goran Dragic and Courtney Lee.
Sacramento
Kings Donte Greene, Jason Thompson (R) and Terrence Williams.
Indiana
Pacers Louis Amundson, Leandro Barbosa, Kyrylo Fesenko, Roy Hibbert (R), George Hill (R) and AJ Price (R).
San Antonio
Spurs Boris Diaw, Tim Duncan, Danny Green (R) and Patrick Mills (R).
Los Angeles
Clippers Chauncey Billups, Reggie Evans, Randy Foye, Kenyon Martin, Bobby Simmons and Nick Young.
Toronto
Raptors Solomon Alabi, Alan Anderson, Jerryd Bayless, Sonny Weems and Ben Uzoh.
Los Angeles
Lakers Matt Barnes, Devin Ebanks (R), Jordan Hill, Troy Murphy and Ramon Sessions.
Utah
Jazz Blake Ahearn, Jeremy Evans (R), Josh Howard and CJ Miles.
Memphis
Grizzlies Gilbert Arenas, Darrell Arthur (R), Hamed Haddadi, Lester Hudson, OJ Mayo and Marreese Speights (R).
Washington
Wizards Morris Almond, Brian Cook, Maurice Evans, Cartier Martin and James Singleton.
Key: (R) Restricted free agent
Other free agents Point guards: Anthony Carter, Will Conroy, Antonio Daniels, Vernon Hamilton, Luther Head, Carldell Johnson, Scott Machado, Stephon Marbury, Brian Morrison, Jerome Randle and Jason Richards.
Shooting guards: Antonio Anderson, Dionte Christmas, Dion Dowell, Othyus Jeffers, Eddie House, Larry Hughes, Trey Johnson, Dwight Lewis, Roger Mason, Dwayne Mitchell, Ronald Murray, Brandon Roy, Quinton Ross, Mychel Thompson, Willie Warren and Sonny Weems.
Small forwards: Renaldo Balkman, Da'Sean Butler, Patrick Ewing Jr., Jason Kapono, James Posey, Marcus Landry, Renaldo Major, Adam Morrison, Larry Owens, Bill Walker and Julian Wright.
Power forwards: Keith Benson, Marqus Blakely, Josh Davis, Chris Johnson, Solomon Jones, Jermaine O'Neal, Magnum Rolle, Jamal Sampson, Walter Sharpe, Joe Smith, DaJuan Summers, Etan Thomas, Rasheed Wallace, Jameel Watkins and Chris Wilcox.
Centers: Brian Butch, Jarron Collins, Marcus Cousin, Jordan Eglseder, Jarrid Famous, Russell Hicks, Chris Hunter, Didier Ilunga-Mbenga, Dwayne Jones, Kurt Looby, Randolph Morris, Hamady Ndiaye, Greg Oden, Fabricio Oberto and Mehmet Okur.
Coaches: Mike D'Antoni, Mike Dunleavy, Mike Fratello, Frank Johnson, Phil Johnson, Eddie Jordan, Sam Mitchell, Don Nelson, Jim O'Brien, Flip Saunders, Jerry Sloan, Jeff Van Gundy and Stan Van Gundy.

aussiemjfreak · Jul 4, 2012

Jaames said:
Williams in a heart beat.

Why!?!? They are actually both really similar in a lot of ways. DWill gets more dimes but thats about it. They have both developed Long Range game in recent seasons, Rose can get to the basket a lot more and better the DWill...... Yes Im a die hard Bulls fan, but Im not willing to say Rose is miles ahead of Dwill, but when someone says DWIll over Rose in a heartbeat, with no reason it makes me wonder why................

aussiemjfreak · Jul 4, 2012

Courtney Lee is a bit of a forgotten player too.. Could help someone like the Bulls as a spark and instant offense off the bench playing at the 2! Shannon Brown has been lost among the big names too!

Matty4292 · Jul 4, 2012

aussiemjfreak said:
Courtney Lee is a bit of a forgotten player too.. Could help someone like the Bulls as a spark and instant offense off the bench playing at the 2! Shannon Brown has been lost among the big names too!

I love Courtney Lee and I think he'd be a perfect fit for the Bulls

Matty4292 · Jul 4, 2012

ozballer23 said:
Rudy Fernandez

I'll miss Rudy in Denver

ozballer23 · Jul 4, 2012

It will be interesting to see where OJ Mayo ends up, imo he would fit nicly in with the 76ers or Nuggets backcourt.

Matty4292 · Jul 4, 2012

ozballer23 said:
It will be interesting to see where OJ Mayo ends up, imo he would fit nicly in with the 76ers or Nuggets backcourt.

I would love to see him in Denver, not sure we'd be able to afford him now that we've re-signed Miller and extended Chandler

ozballer23 · Jul 4, 2012

Matty4292 said:
I would love to see him in Denver, not sure we'd be able to afford him now that we've re-signed Miller and extended Chandler

imagine him with ty!!!

Matty4292 · Jul 4, 2012

ozballer23 said:
imagine him with ty!!!

Imagine our Depth Chart lol

PG: Lawson, A. Miller, Fournier
SG: Mayo, Afflalo, Brewer, Hamilton
SF: Gallinari, Chandler, Q. Miller
PF: Faried, Harrington, Koufos, Stone
C: McGee, Mozgov, Andersen

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