NRL Rumour Mill Thread (Spoilers)

batboy · Oct 20, 2011

Don't get me wrong...I'd MUCH prefer him at the Dragons!!
But the simple truth is... Despite all the flack my beloved Tigers are copping,
They have done nothing wrong...
They gave a player permission to explore his options, He came back with a 3 year contract (To go with the contract is already under)
Any points made about "Verbal" Negotiations... Are just hearsay!!
Personally... I wouldn't be "Verbally" Negotiating ANYTHING that is worth almost $1,000,000.00
Surely the folks running these clubs are a little bit smarted than me???

ooneil · Oct 20, 2011

Agree but Tigers flip flopping on this issue has made them look like muppets. PR disaster.

batboy · Oct 20, 2011

In all fairness.... The flip flooping is flogged out in the Media.
God knows what happens or is said behind closed doors....
Moltz is hardly worth the Hoo Hah, The hype behind it
is granting him more celebrity than he is warranted.
It does make the Dragons look pretty stupid, I am wondering
if they Really, Really want Moltz.... Or if is more a matter of
the old "Red V" Pride has taken a wholloping!!
They have been Knifey-Spoonied.... Good and Proper!!

AyiosYiorgos · Oct 20, 2011

umm can you explain how the Dragons have been parading around like they are the be all and end all and how the world revolves around us??
Refer to post 660, explains how things are done in the NRL, your house example is irrelevant..
Dragons did exactly what every team has been doing for the last 20 years, its just that the Tigers decided to change things because Lui decided to bash his partner again...
And Stephen HumpfreiBBear is a tool he has been quoted extensively even as of last Monday saying he would be released, then 2 days later changed his mind...

batboy said:
Hang about Mike...
Tigers run the NRL... The Dragons and thier fans have been parading around like they are the be all and end all
for 30+ years. I am amused to see the ramblings on other forums, Referring to the Tigers as a 2nd tier team etc, etc...
When I read the Dragons are looking for an advancement on next year to stay afloat???
The Tigers aren't the ones who signed a player with out a formal release!!
Our CEO blew up at the time because it was arrogant of the Dragons to announce the signing
with out the formal documentation.
This is about doing things the right way... Your main man Peter Douche has his head far too far inside his own
ar*e to come to terms with the fact the whole world does not revolve around the Dragons.
Since Moltzens negotiations with the Dragons... The Tigers Have Wade McKinnon, Todd Payten and Simon Dwyer
off the books for next year...
I think you will find this has nothing to do with Lui, And should Moltzen be kept he won't be playing 7.
The Dragons F*cked up... They need to admit it!!
If they signed a $750,000 contract on Verbals with the Player Manager and Player, While he was still signed elsewhere...
Who's the fool... The guy offering the contract or the guy who still has the relevant one???
I wouldn't sign a contract to build a house before the bank gives me the money....
The Tigers KNOW how things should be done.. Re: Adam Blair!!

---------- Post added 20-10-2011 at 11:23 AM ----------

I think you will find that the truth has been stretched a fair bit on that, it's just to heap pressure on the Government, BUT their finances could be better, same as 14 other clubs, bar the Doggies and a couple more...

mischap123 said:
I'm not going into the Dragons/Tigers feud but the Dragons ARE in financial turmoil. I heard Peter Doust himself say at the rally in Sept that the club will totally be gone within 2 years if mandatory pre-committment goes ahead as the Gillard government is planning. A few other clubs may be in trouble too.

---------- Post added 20-10-2011 at 11:26 AM ----------

If he comes he comes, he will get over his homesickness, prefer that HE WANTS TO COME....

GiRDS- said:
okay so i am under the impression here that you want moltzen at the dragons true?

but i have a question for you, why would you want him when he clearly doesn't want to be there. he came out and said it

---------- Post added 20-10-2011 at 11:33 AM ----------

Your opinion is they have done nothing wrong mine is they have...
Heinington was told to look at his options he agreed to go to the Panthers on a 3 year deal, the Tigers in the meantime were told that Simon Dwyer MAY never play again, especially 2012, so the Tigers told Heinington he is staying now they will honour his contract...
Moltzen was told to look at elsewhere he did, he signed a contract, Humpfreys chucked a sissy fit because it was announced the day they were playing or the day before thats what he fumed about, Sheens mentioned in post game interviews about it, Benji mentioned it during the semis, but all of a sudden Lui belts his partner, deals is off...
Boyd is still contracted to us, but has signed with the Knights.......

batboy said:
Don't get me wrong...I'd MUCH prefer him at the Dragons!!
But the simple truth is... Despite all the flack my beloved Tigers are copping,
They have done nothing wrong...
They gave a player permission to explore his options, He came back with a 3 year contract (To go with the contract is already under)
Any points made about "Verbal" Negotiations... Are just hearsay!!
Personally... I wouldn't be "Verbally" Negotiating ANYTHING that is worth almost $1,000,000.00
Surely the folks running these clubs are a little bit smarted than me???

batboy · Oct 20, 2011

Yep.... It's the Pride thing.
Just because the Dragons did what has been happening for 100 years don't make it right.
They signed a contract with out a contract release...
END OF STORY!!

AyiosYiorgos · Oct 20, 2011

It's only not right because it doesn't suit your club due to Lui....
Compensate us and you can have Tin Man Moltzen...

batboy said:
Yep.... It's the Pride thing.
Just because the Dragons did what has been happening for 100 years don't make it right.
They signed a contract with out a contract release...
END OF STORY!!

---------- Post added 20-10-2011 at 12:08 PM ----------

Still waiting for an answer re How we have been runniig the NRL for the last 30 years...

AyiosYiorgos said:
It's only not right because it doesn't suit your club due to Lui....
Compensate us and you can have Tin Man Moltzen...

Diggaz TC · Oct 20, 2011

Moltzen isn't a half, don't know why everyone trys to relate this to Lui. Lui could have been helping old people cross the street on Mad Monday and this would still be happening now.

AyiosYiorgos · Oct 20, 2011

Ask Benji.............

Digeze said:
Moltzen isn't a half, don't know why everyone trys to relate this to Lui. Lui could have been helping old people cross the street on Mad Monday and this would still be happening now.

Diggaz TC · Oct 20, 2011

AyiosYiorgos said:
Ask Benji.............

You're saying that Benji has commented about Lui leaving??? Because all i've read from everyone official is "no comment"

batboy · Oct 20, 2011

I never said Dragons were running the NRL... I said that Dragons and thier fans think they are the be all and end all.
Look on the LU thread on this... And see the ramblings from Dragons fans. Things like "We are an elite side, They are a 2nd tier team"
It goes on and on and on... The Mighty Red V this, that and whatever. This is the perception held by the majority of Dragons fans... Find me another NRL fan that doesn't think it. Most Dragons fans are overconfident sprukers, With nothing better to do than rubbish every other team like you are still the super power of the
50's-60's. That is my point....
The fact is, Your club is a merged club (HA HA) that has done no better than the other one, Despite your money and cattle. If you get trumped on Moltzen, So be it... I'm not fussed!!
As for Humpty being a tool...... What does that say for your Douche??
And as for letting Boyd go... He is a spoilt brat that doesn't wanna be there with a get out clause that he has exercised!! And you can't afford him anymore anyway....

---------- Post added 20-10-2011 at 01:31 PM ----------

Yeah Digy... It's easier for the Dragons fans to Blame Lui...
FACT IS... Moltz won't be playing 7 so this has no relevance to Lui.
There is much more unexpected cash freed up (McKinnon, Payto, Dwyer)
But they won't let facts get in the way of a good rant!!

Digeze said:
Moltzen isn't a half, don't know why everyone trys to relate this to Lui. Lui could have been helping old people cross the street on Mad Monday and this would still be happening now.

ooneil · Oct 20, 2011

Yawn. Moltzen talk is banned from this thread. There is only so many times you can go around in circles.

AyiosYiorgos · Oct 20, 2011

re:Moltzen been a 1/2back....

Digeze said:
You're saying that Benji has commented about Lui leaving??? Because all i've read from everyone official is "no comment"

1967Sharks · Oct 20, 2011

ooneil said:
Yawn. Moltzen talk is banned from this thread. There is only so many times you can go around in circles.

Why? Whats going on with Moltzen?

AyiosYiorgos · Oct 20, 2011

Saints fans think we are the be all and end all, what planet are you from, EVERY supporter thinks their team is it, if i thought that the Eels where the greatest i would have supported them, of course we have arrogant/passionate/overzealous fans LIKE every other club in every other sport as well, this is footy, it's part of the game FMD, we have pride in our team and think our sh1t doesn't stink, so what...
Yeah we merged big deal, we are still the Saints / Dragons whats the issue, i have no problem with it, maybe you have an issue with the Wests Tigers merger?
We cant afford Boyd? well considering we had him signed for the next 3 years, seems your logic is a bit screwed, but again lets not let facts get in the way of your BS...

batboy said:
I never said Dragons were running the NRL... I said that Dragons and thier fans think they are the be all and end all.
Look on the LU thread on this... And see the ramblings from Dragons fans. Things like "We are an elite side, They are a 2nd tier team"
It goes on and on and on... The Mighty Red V this, that and whatever. This is the perception held by the majority of Dragons fans... Find me another NRL fan that doesn't think it. Most Dragons fans are overconfident sprukers, With nothing better to do than rubbish every other team like you are still the super power of the
50's-60's. That is my point....
The fact is, Your club is a merged club (HA HA) that has done no better than the other one, Despite your money and cattle. If you get trumped on Moltzen, So be it... I'm not fussed!!
As for Humpty being a tool...... What does that say for your Douche??
And as for letting Boyd go... He is a spoilt brat that doesn't wanna be there with a get out clause that he has exercised!! And you can't afford him anymore anyway....

---------- Post added 20-10-2011 at 01:31 PM ----------

Yeah Digy... It's easier for the Dragons fans to Blame Lui...
FACT IS... Moltz won't be playing 7 so this has no relevance to Lui.
There is much more unexpected cash freed up (McKinnon, Payto, Dwyer)
But they won't let facts get in the way of a good rant!!

---------- Post added 20-10-2011 at 02:16 PM ----------

Tin Man Moltzen will have his future sorted out shortly by the NRL

1967Sharks said:
Why? Whats going on with Moltzen?

ooneil · Oct 21, 2011

Seen a few tweets tonight saying that the Saints have resigned themselves to not getting Moltzen and are now chasing Carney.

AyiosYiorgos · Oct 21, 2011

Strong word about tonight that the Sharks have lured Bird back....

---------- Post added 21-10-2011 at 09:16 PM ----------

whether the NRL agrees with us or not, we will release him IMHO , Carney is done and dusted to the sharks, always going to be linked with him due to Moltzen issue...

ooneil said:
Seen a few tweets tonight saying that the Saints have resigned themselves to not getting Moltzen and are now chasing Carney.

ooneil · Oct 21, 2011

Why would the Sharks want Bird?? I dont see where he fits into the squad assuming they purchase Carney.

AyiosYiorgos · Oct 21, 2011

Play him at Lock

---------- Post added 21-10-2011 at 09:24 PM ----------

or Carney 7, Bird 6???

GiRDS- · Oct 21, 2011

well i hear bird and prince hate each other so maybe there is some truth too it. hopefully he does go back .

1967Sharks · Oct 21, 2011

No way Bird will be playing 6 with or without Carney.
Backrow with Gallen and Graham.

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