NRL Rumour Mill Thread (Spoilers)

Matt26 said:

Paul Kent from the tele is reporting that Des Hasler had a meeting tonight with the players at the team presentation......a lot of them left the meeting "filthy'

Phil Rothfield reported that there is a massive tip that Ricky Stuart may be looking the goods for Hasler's replacement.

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Replacement at MANLY you're talking about, right? Not Stuart going to the Dogs in 2013 instead of Hasler? Stuart to Manly seems a match made in heaven, actually... If ANYONE can convince Manly's players the world's against them even more, it MUST be Ricky!!! Lol!

This from Paul Kents twitter feed - "Apparently Des agreed to Dogs deal the day before GF. I got a tip that day and didn't believe it (how could you?)"

WTF is Des doing negotiating a deal to move to the dogs on the eve of a grand final.

2.2 million buckaroos over 3 years is what was said on radio up here.

Money talks in every language....

steven1959 said:

2.2 million buckaroos over 3 years is what was said on radio up here.

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Guess my doggies will be getting a few premierships soon

Desy's fine, he did his time at Manly and look, they won a Premiership. All sweet in my books. I still don't think Dogs shoulda booted Kevvy Moore he rocks, they were plagued by injury. Reminds me of how that Dockers coach got offloaded in a similar way.

Inu to the Dragons if Moltzen stays at the tigpies...

Got the scoop on hasler. this is what i heard is happening. he has one year left on his contract at manly.

apparently he is going to be sacked early into the season to ensure they keep the players that they might lose to his departure. i dont quite understand how it will all work, but it made sense when i had it explained to me by a respected source of information.

GiRDS- said:

Got the scoop on hasler. this is what i heard is happening. he has one year left on his contract at manly.

apparently he is going to be sacked early into the season to ensure they keep the players that they might lose to his departure. i dont quite understand how it will all work, but it made sense when i had it explained to me by a respected source of information.

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propably wont be able to bet on first coach sacked then i take it betting will be suspended from the get go

Carney to sharks. Apparently already signed.


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WESTS Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys has revealed the Tim Moltzen contract dispute will be resolved in days - and he is likely to be released to the Dragons.

It is a stunning about-face from last week when the Tigers appeared ready to dig in and not release the utility star, who signed with the Dragons mid-season.

"The way that it is likely to play out is that he will be going to the Dragons," Humphreys told The Daily Telegraph last night.

"We will have a conversation with them in the next few days about it, but we have been working on the assumption that he won't be here next season.

"His move depended on us granting him a release, and that is the process we are going through now."

As revealed in The Daily Telegraph last week, the Tigers were set to block Moltzen from taking up his three-year deal with St George Illawarra, which was signed after he was granted permission to negotiate with other clubs.

Asked why the clubs position had changed, Humphreys said: "He has signed a contract with the Dragons, so that is where he's likely to end up."

Humphreys refused to be drawn into speculation that the Tigers were struggling to fit him into their salary cap if they did decide to keep him.

It has been assumed that money could be freed up if they sacked halfback Robert Lui, although there have also been suggestions the club was trying to move on centre Mitch Brown. "But we are not moving on Mitch Brown."

Meanwhile, sacked Roosters five-eighth Todd Carney returns from a holiday in Thailand on Wednesday hoping to resolve his future.

While he has received an offer from the Titans, it is understood the Sharks and French Super League side Catalans are his most likely options of a lifeline

The Villain said:

propably wont be able to bet on first coach sacked then i take it betting will be suspended from the get go

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i think you will be right. the talk is he will be sacked before round 8. he wont leave as he wants his money

GiRDS- said:

Got the scoop on hasler. this is what i heard is happening. he has one year left on his contract at manly.

apparently he is going to be sacked early into the season to ensure they keep the players that they might lose to his departure. i dont quite understand how it will all work, but it made sense when i had it explained to me by a respected source of information.

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Hasler stood down immediatlly & Geoff Toovey new coach

geez, in the Penthouse 1 week, the basement the next.....

On another note, this is from a guy in Thailand
"Had a few drinks with Carney the other night..actually a decent guy...and the girls just fall all over him..lol
asked what he is doing next year...sharks 90%..but interest from penrith and gold coast..said his mum advised against the coast...and he isnt a fan of the western suburbs"

Dr Grange said:

Hasler stood down immediatlly & Geoff Toovey new coach

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RUMOUR: Krisnan Inu released by Warriors | Rugby League | Zero Tackle


The latest rumour doing the rounds is that Krisnan Inu and the New Zealand Warriors have mutually agreed to part ways, to be made official once the Four Nations tournament is over.

It was reported a few weeks back that the Warriors had been shopping Inu around and it now seems one of these clubs has agreed to take on the Kiwi international.

Releasing Inu will free up a fair amount of cash under the salary cap for the Warriors, as he’s reported to be on around $250,000 per season.

The Cronulla Sharks and the St George Illawarra Dragons are the hot favourites to snare the signature of the enigmatic centre, while the English Super League also remains an option.

Meanwhile, the Warriors look set to lose veteran utility Shaun Berrigan, with the Canberra Raiders targeting his versatility. There have also been rumours that winger Bill Tupou could be lost to a rival club as well.

It’s not clear yet if the club will look to sign new outside backs to replace the losses or promote from their junior ranks.



Read more: RUMOUR: Krisnan Inu released by Warriors | Rugby League | Zero Tackle

Geoff Toovey the new Manly coach for 2013 and 2014. Hasler to remain for 2012. OFFICIAL.

Im thinking Hasler gone by round 12. Two or three losses in a row and they will punt him.

ooneil said:

Geoff Toovey the new Manly coach for 2013 and 2014. Hasler to remain for 2012. OFFICIAL.

Im thinking Hasler gone by round 12. Two or three losses in a row and they will punt him.

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Damn it, I was hoping he'd been either punted, or jumped before he could be pushed, as was mentioned earlier. But I've got a question about 1 of those scenarios: Is it even LEGAL for him to jump before he's pushed? When I read it, my initial thought was "Great, the Dogs get a full pre-season with him, and POTENTIALLY pick up a nice piece from Manly with players opting out." But when I talked to a friend about this, he was of the opinion that Des legally CAN'T jump, and has to wait to be pushed. Is this correct? Also, IF Des is kept on by Manly, ALLEGEDLY to stop players jumping ship, can't those players just jump when Des is pushed, whether that be in the off-season or round 23? Because if the team hold onto Des just long enough to get the players locked in for the year, surely there'd be some kind of "bad faith" thing the players could call up?

I am hearing whispers that Carney is Coast bound for a year. I truely hope so. He is the 6 that we need in order for Princeys game to lift.

True that Bladeo... Unfortunately for Scotty, I think Benji really put the shine on him!!

BLADE said:

I am hearing whispers that Carney is Coast bound for a year. I truely hope so. He is the 6 that we need in order for Princeys game to lift.

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can see future headline : Blind drunk Todd Carney bashed by bouncers on Cavill Avenue.

jonnov0007 said:

can see future headline : Blind drunk Todd Carney bashed by bouncers on Cavill Avenue.

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Maybe he can emulate another great Roosters #6 and fall asleep outside the police station.

Statement From Dragons CEO Peter Doust: Tim Moltzen Signing Facts & Update


St George Illawarra Dragons CEO Peter Doust On Wednesday issued the following regarding the signing of Tim Moltzen:


On July 8 this year, the Dragons publicly announced that we had agreed to terms with Tim Moltzen for three years beginning in 2012. On this day, Stephen Humphries telephoned me to express his dissatisfaction with the timing of our announcement.
Whilst I listened to his comments on the timing, it was certainly clear to me from our conversation that the Wests Tigers intended to release Tim Moltzen from the final year of his contract with their Club.
Whilst Stephen continues to state publicly that he has never formalized the release of Tim Moltzen, Tim’s Manager Martin Tauber advised us on a number of occasions that the release was “no issue”.
Given these expressions of intent that we received, in good faith, we included Tim Moltzen as part of our roster and planning for 2012 and provided a three year contract which Tim Moltzen and Martin Tauber signed on July 12.
On the same day that Stephen expressed his frustration (July 8) that our game day announcement of Tim's signing was an issue, Tigers Coach Tim Sheens addressed this situation in his post-game press conference, denying it was a distraction. Sheens said ‘The boys were aware that Timmy was moving on …”
Tim’s Manager Martin Tauber has also publicly stated in various media channels that Stephen Humphries had verbally agreed to a release for Tim. Going even further to say “There is no issue.. He (Tim) will be at the Dragons next year” (July 12).
Tim Moltzen himself discussed his move to the Dragons publicly “It’s a weight off my shoulders … I don’t have to worry about the issue any more. It’s put to bed and my future is decided” (August 2).
Tigers Captain Benji Marshall, who shares a house with Tim Moltzen, is also on the public record acknowledging that Tim would be moving on at the end of the season. “He’s flying for us. He’s a big loss for the club, a massive loss. I’m devastated he’s going, especially the way he’s been playing. That’s rugby league” (Sept 12).
The Dragons have documentation from our meetings and discussions with Martin Tauber and Tim Moltzen where all arrangements in relation to the contract for Tim Moltzen were discussed. Martin also discussed the terms arranged with Wests Tigers regarding Tim’s “Deed of Release”.
Tim Moltzen has met with our incoming Head Coach Stephen Price where a number of matters were discussed including the fact that Tim had indicated that he would be moving to Wollongong.
It is quite obvious that some circumstances at the Wests Tigers have changed in recent times, otherwise why only now three months later are we made aware that there is an issue?
We believe there are still a lot of unanswered questions in relation to this issue.
It is accurate to note that this contract is yet to be registered by the NRL, as we have been waiting for the formality of the receipt of the official “Deed of Release” from the Wests Tigers. Martin Tauber had been chasing this and even indicated that he thought that this had already been completed by the Wests Tigers.
On September 27 the Tauber Management Group emailed the Dragons to enquire if we were yet to receive the official release from the Wests Tigers stating “… if not, please respond by return email and I will follow-up for you”.
In terms of the registration of a “Deed of Release”, in my some 11 years as CEO of the Dragons such arrangements have always been considered a formality and a situation such as this has never previously presented.
Furthermore I strongly believe that the game generally, athletes and their Managers have not been keen to formalize “Deeds of Release” without prospective contract arrangements in place.
Admittedly if we did have the signed release from the Wests Tigers then we would not be in this situation.
However, we strongly believe this matter should be judged on the principles of intent and actions arising in good faith.
Interestingly, at present, we are yet to formally sign the “Deeds of Release” for Darius Boyd and Ratu Peni Tagive but they are all moving on to other Clubs for next season because that is our intentions and verbal agreements were made with the players and their Managers.
If things were to suddenly change at our Club, as they appear to have for the Wests Tigers, we would not be reconsidering our position as we would stand by our conversations, assurances and undertakings that our Club had given to these players and their Managers, who at present are still officially contracted to the Dragons for 2012. In our opinion, that is not the right thing to do for any of the parties concerned.
The Dragons had not been approached by Tim Moltzen, Martin Tauber or the Wests Tigers to suggest that there was an issue with the three year Dragons contract that had been signed on July 12.
Our suspicions were raised earlier last week when both Martin Tauber and Tim Moltzen did not return phone calls to Dragons staff and Tim also failed to front for a pre-arranged meeting prior to his departure for an end of season overseas trip with other Wests Tigers players.
On October 6 Martin Tauber finally returned calls, where he indicated that he does not wish to meet Dragons staff in an attempt to resolve the issue and that it is something that needs to be sorted out between the two Clubs.
So given, the NRL have not yet registered Tim Moltzen’s signed Dragons contract for 2012-2014, we have been investigating our legal position over the past days. Certainly some sections within the NRL rules are worth exploring in protecting the Dragons’ interests.
Furthermore we have been in daily contact with Wests Tigers Management since last Tuesday ensuring they understood our “good faith” actions throughout negotiations with Tim and his Manager and were encouraged to believe that the release would be forthcoming.
Public comments made by Wests Tigers CEO Stephen Humphries on Monday, October 10 confirmed that position,
“The way that it is likely to play out is that he will be going to the Dragons. We don’t want to stretch it out.
“We will have a conversation with them in the next few days about it, but we have been working on the assumption that he won’t be here next season”.
Now today, instead of confirmation of the official release that we were encouraged to believe would happen, we have been informed by Wests Tigers that they wish to enter into further discussions with us which we believe will prolong the issue unreasonably.
It is essential that we act to conclude the profile of our playing roster for 2012 as soon as possible.
Clearly this is not something that we have been able to resolve with the Wests Tigers and we will now continue to press our contractual position in relation to Tim Moltzen and his Manager’s intentions for the 2012 season and beyond by formally referring the matter to the NRL.
We believe such circumstances are not in the best interests of the game and our club could be seriously disadvantaged at this late stage with our 2012 pre-season scheduled to start in just a matter of weeks.