NRL Drugs scandal ????????

This is the problem,Disclosing the problem but not Naming the Culprits already involved, All the clubs that are involved will be getting their stories right and Disposing of the Evidence while the drug agency gives them Plenty of time to clean house, Tell Us Who They Are Now.??? :red:
 
Triple M had an email from a reported employee of an NRL club and they said the auditors came in and started taking computers etc and that this had happened at 6 different clubs.
 
gregga61 said:
This is the problem,Disclosing the problem but not Naming the Culprits already involved, All the clubs that are involved will be getting their stories right and Disposing of the Evidence while the drug agency gives them Plenty of time to clean house, Tell Us Who They Are Now.??? :red:
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I think you will find that the names of clubs and individuals will not be fully disclosed until civil or criminal proceedings have been commenced. With Social Media being so popular the scrutiny this could bring on an individual or club if named would make it almost impossible for a fair trial or court proceeding.

I listened to the entire briefing and gathered that this has been a protracted and proactive investigation by multiple LEA (Law Enforcement Agencies). I am not sure of the exact investigative processes used but could almost guarantee that it would have involved telephone intercepts and physical / electronic surveillance. There have been over 100 individual intelligence dossiers sent to various Federal and State Authorities which indicates they have all the evidence they need already and would not be concerned that evidence is currently being destroyed. Add to this the vast amount of coercive hearings that have been conducted (illegal to not answer questions in a coercive hearing) I think that there might be some seriously worried people out there tonight!
 
Brendan_B said:
I think you will find that the names of clubs and individuals will not be fully disclosed until civil or criminal proceedings have been commenced. With Social Media being so popular the scrutiny this could bring on an individual or club if named would make it almost impossible for a fair trial or court proceeding.

I listened to the entire briefing and gathered that this has been a protracted and proactive investigation by multiple LEA (Law Enforcement Agencies). I am not sure of the exact investigative processes used but could almost guarantee that it would have involved telephone intercepts and physical / electronic surveillance. There have been over 100 individual intelligence dossiers sent to various Federal and State Authorities which indicates they have all the evidence they need already and would not be concerned that evidence is currently being destroyed. Add to this the vast amount of coercive hearings that have been conducted (illegal to not answer questions in a coercive hearing) I think that there might be some seriously worried people out there tonight!
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Thanks for that, very informative post and seems to give a lot more info than the journalists managed in any of the articles I've read!
 
No worries James. You know how the media hate to let the facts get in the way of a good story! When they were taking questions at the briefing many of the questions asked by the media revolved around trying to get persons, clubs and codes named.
 
I find it interesting how the media interpret what has been going on and am watching with keen interest where it will go. Most of the reports talk about "Peptide" use which is basically the building blocks of proteins which are NOT prohibited. They are also using terms such as "doping" and "growth" which insinuates that they have anabolic (steroid-like) actions. It's my understanding peptides do not. I also hear that peptides have not been classified and because there is no legislation on it, therefore it must be illegal. I reckon the sports scientist at the centre of this scandal assumed that because peptides weren't on the banned list, they must be OK to use. The reality is that the rule makers are playing catch up.
Does anyone else see this in a similar light?
 
The performance enhancing drug side of the investigation seems to be getting the most attention but I am led to believe the investigation was three pronged and also focused on illicit drug use and supply and match fixing. I don't know anything about the properties of peptides other than what Mischa just posted but for the amount if resources having been poured into this there must be more going on than the misuse of performance enhancing drugs.
 
The investigation has been going for a year and they did use phone tapping and they know there is organised crime, and illegal drug use involved so they follow the money trail and all the contact information, and it leads extensively around a lot of sports. They have so much information, yet will they bring evryone down with it, i dont think so. An Amnesty,involving the atheletes, if it is not already in place, will certainly be part of a 'clean up Australian Sport message' and more than likely the money makers involved will cop the brunt of this exercise, and then the athletes will get 10 hail marys and some bad publicity which they know will go away in a short time.

Just my opinion
 
Yeah I think if you have any real evidence then usually the cops go in and arrest people not hold a press conference.

I'm sure the telegraph will delight in beating it to death but again I dont see much coming from it from the NRL's perspective anyway. IMO this stuff is more rife in Olympic sports.
 
rumour from facebook - (Not necessarily a reliable source, hence "rumour")

The report into drugs in sports has named 9 AFL clubs (6 Vic based), 7 NRL clubs, 3 A League clubs and over 90 individual athletes.
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Brendan_B said:
The performance enhancing drug side of the investigation seems to be getting the most attention but I am led to believe the investigation was three pronged and also focused on illicit drug use and supply and match fixing. I don't know anything about the properties of peptides other than what Mischa just posted but for the amount if resources having been poured into this there must be more going on than the misuse of performance enhancing drugs.
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I totally understand the match fixing and illicit drug use thing but just love when the media get hold of an unknown word (peptide) to them and twist it into a good read
 
Looks like either a poor choice of words by the reporter, or Mansour didn't get the memo... lol! Third paragraph... :p

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http://www.nrl.com/mansour-the-new-man-for-panthers/tabid/10874/newsid/70696/default.aspx

Oops, how do I insert a link now?
 
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