Ok i now understand what your saying.
Yes, he did buy it from that somewhat dodgy seller....who in fact HAS sold AUTHENTIC SIGNED CARDS, BUT i have also seen him sell FAKES!
The second he told me where he got it, i said FAKE!!!!
But after he got the confirmation from UPPERDECK (which i have seen) i had to and still do, believe that the card is authentic.
There is no way anyone can fake the hologram from upperdeck, on a buy back auto, unless they owned the card !?!
As for the last time it sold on ebay for almost $10k....
The auction was legit!!! IT got bid up at the last minute from an American buyer, with zero feedback...
The d#ckhead that won it said, that he didn't want to pay because of the zero feedback bidder...and there wasn't much the seller could do?
He has been offered over $5k for the card multiple times, but at the time he wasn't going to sell it that cheap (I even told him not too)
As for lying about wanting to sell to buy a house...Who really cares about that?
Who are you to question his financial postion?
Anyway, I will say this.
He is not a lair about the things that matter.
Who hasn't told a white lie, i lie to myself everyday after i buy a hi-end MJ insert thinking i can afford it!
Until that card has been slabed, i don't think he will ever get what its actaully worth.
Gary.
The Authenticity of the card is not the issue! That can simply be proven by upper deck. I would have thought that if it had been authenticated by UD in the past, then you would present that as part of the sale thread!
But when you are asking for thousands of dollars from someone, there aren't any acceptable lies! It was never about finding out how much he paid for it, but about who he bought it from!
You have to agree, a seller that is known for seller fakes, and not even good fakes, sells a Buyback auto from the release that MJ's rookie card comes from, for UNDER $1K, it has to be fake! But if the hologram can be verified?? Then I am wrong, and good on him for getting the steal of the century!
And what he does with his money is his business, I don't give a s*** but don't bulls*** me and other members on here by saying that you need to sell to buy a house! Especially when the use of that is to help make people think a card is a good deal!