Flawless - Panini Signatures on a grand scale

Verse1 · Sep 20, 2013

Just saw the checklist for Flawless and I think I need a tissue.

I was under the impression I was done having to buy Payton cards for the rest of the year (since there been about a thousand of them so far), to my surprise there are 17 new Payton autos in Flawless

Not to mention 9 of them are 1/1's FML

Anyone else about to be raped by this product?

anakinleo · Sep 20, 2013

Economics 101. As long as you keep buying, panini will keep producing.

Verse1 · Sep 20, 2013

It's like the chicken or the egg lol
I buy them because they make them & they make them because I buy them. Goddamn this never ending cycle!

Jaames · Sep 20, 2013

Basketball cards are becoming a joke. Way to many releases in a year. Sucks to be a player collector.

A1CardsandGaming · Sep 20, 2013

You will be in the top 5 (Most dedicated collectors list) in no time at this rate

fezzadog · Sep 20, 2013

tough gig that payton collecting, or any star from the 90's.

It was 20 yrs ago.

Matt26 · Sep 20, 2013

While I wasnt impressed with the checklist (lots and lots of parallels) I still get the feeling they are holding back something. I would hope so!

matty83 · Sep 20, 2013

Jaames said:
Basketball cards are becoming a joke. Way to many releases in a year. Sucks to be a player collector.

It's basically 2 years worth of products thanks to the double rook class.

Should only see half the amount next calendar year.

ozballer23 · Sep 21, 2013

I was complaining there were hardly any JR's in the past present. Now since I started collecting him again I wish I kept me big mouth closed. Oh well it gives me something to chase down. Time to bend over and lube up.....

sacface · Sep 21, 2013

I've all but given up chasing my PC player.. Parallels are now shitting me.. Especially when the only difference is a very small bit of foil.. Plus the increase in postage from the US. I feel like panini is taking the piss now...
Looking forward to the new season to invigorate some stoke

drsma1 · Sep 21, 2013

Im the opposite..was looking at checklist on Blowout..assuming its corret, no Lamb RPA's!?!

Verse1 · Sep 21, 2013

Yeah that new global shipping program blows hey?
$40 shipping on a $5 card lol

I think I'll just go for the 1/1s from Flawless or just one card from each of the 9 different sets so i save some coin. I can understand rainbows but when there's 9 different rainbows in one set it's just ridiculous.

sacface said:
I've all but given up chasing my PC player.. Parallels are now s***ting me.. Especially when the only difference is a very small bit of foil.. Plus the increase in postage from the US. I feel like panini is taking the piss now...
Looking forward to the new season to invigorate some stoke

West Oz Cards · Sep 21, 2013

parrallels are ok up to IMO 3, but 5 IS a flapping joke..

Panini sgnatures is a joke product... one whih they're laughing at how much I've chased nearly every Kemp in the damn thing..

The intrigue product is the flapping same... nearly every all star player has ten cards with a slightly different pose on it.. FLAP OFF.
check ebay and have a look at the intrigue product.. 10 card sets of each player that look nearly the same.

West Oz Cards · Sep 21, 2013

Verse1 said:
there are 17 new Payton autos in Flawless

Not to mention 9 of them are 1/1's FML

If you need some bank, I'll gladly spot you $2600 for a dual logoman.

Verse1 · Sep 21, 2013

M4YH3M1 said:
If you need some bank, I'll gladly spot you $2600 for a dual logoman.

Haha that would get you half, after the Aus $ transfer rate + customs fees the price I paid was considerably more than the "eBay" price

Fleer57 · Sep 21, 2013

Jaames said:
Basketball cards are becoming a joke. Way to many releases in a year. Sucks to be a player collector.

and there are now so many 1/1s around that they could literally hand you anything and call it a 1/1 and people would want it. Someone at panini could draw a picture of a chicken on a napkin and put 1/1 on it and someone on ebay would buy it for $500.

muzikandme · Sep 21, 2013

Happy I'm not a hardcore player collector, maybe you should focus in the earlier stuff and give panini the big FU

Jonathon M · Sep 21, 2013

I guess when you pick a rookie player to PC you can confine yourself to the rookie year and feel comfortable, I know I have... I wasn't even slightly interested in the printing plates or low numbered parrallels that hit the bay out of SCORE 2013 as I only collect 2011 cards (VBrowns rookie year) Becket says there are 513 diff cards from 2011 for a 3rd round pick .... but in this case with retired vet's such as Payton and Kemp where the rookie year stuff is such a small percentage of their cards (and no auto's, low #ed parallels, game used, etc) where do you draw the line??? Seriously, 9 1/1's of a retired player in a product??? Thats a joke! However, as already mentioned... while people keep buying them the companies will keep making them

KB. · Sep 22, 2013

Doesn't look like Aminu's in flawless, not that I'm surprised. I couldn't imagine someone paying $1250 and their biggest hit was an Aminu inscriptions 1/1, lol! Anyway, I'm glad they don't have anything, cause he just had 12 more cards release in intrigue which I was expecting, with 4 being 1/1's! I agree with the sentiments that too many releases and parallels this year for player collectors, it's sort of killing my wallet and my dude's stuff goes cheap, can't imagine how the expensive player collections go. It's pretty much the reason I'm focusing more on just my Aminu PC and picking up Kemp's and Drummond's when I see good prices.

Matt26 · Sep 22, 2013

There are a couple of nice cards in this I would like, but I think ill stick to the higher numbered versions.

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