white_chocolate_55 said:oh hang on, one last thing.. all those teams you mentioned have goal kicking midfielders.. tell me.. who kicks goals from essendons midfield?
i suppose if you lose tarrant/rocca that collingwood would still be a great kicking side..
and i suppose if lynch played the grand final you would have won? i agree with that because at least he could have been used as a forward decoy, or even as a tall target down forward.. the difference between winning and losing that gf was having no FF
Shoes said:Once again this year tarrant leads the AFL in goal assists if only every team had such an unselfish forward, maybe you wouldnt be fighting for the spoon.
and i suppose if lynch played the grand final you would have won?
Shoes said:One minute u say tarrant leads to middle of the ground and thats all you get from the guy, then your very next post u mention him alongside rocca as a great kicker rofl talk about contradicting yourself. lol classic
white_chocolate_55 said:classic hey...
roll on the floor laughing like the knob you are.. but we both know he can kick goals, and is a forward target against other sides other than essendon.. i say that because i dont see him kick goals against us much..
jvalles69 said:As in Quentin Lynch? He's just a big dude who has trouble holding onto marks, and grows a little hilter moustache every once in awhile. LOL He is no way considered a "FF", he could be but thats not how the eagles play.
What happened to that big blonde dreadied guy that the Dons played last year, he could've shown some promise if they gave him a bit more time?
Shoes said:"we both know he can kick goals" ?? you just said all he does is lead to the middle of the ground and thats all you get from the guy...make up your mind.
JZA said:esendon dont need a FF, the classic role of the FF is being phased out in modern footy, look at the top sides, do any of they have a FF kicking 8 every week? no, its midfield where the game is won and lost these days. melbourne doesnt rely on neitz as much and look at how much they have improved, same with sydney and hall, pies and tarrant etc. having one focal point for your offence these days is stupid. the crows have no specialist forwards really and theyre the best team in the league.
and yes lynch, gf day he coulda been a ff.. the guys a dud, but you funnily need him in your forward line
white_chocolate_55 said:neitz isnt any good so you cant bring him into the picture..
but what about lynch when he played? what about gehrig, how many did he kick last year? fevola, what was that on sunday?
my point is, we have no forward options.. your naming alot of great full forwards of the game, but are you to tell me they do nothing? dont mention tarrant either.. he marks mid ground, and thats about all you'll get from that guy.. we need some tall timber down there.. if theres no FF in the game, then why have a position called that? why have a tall forward down to play that spot? lloyd was a marking machine down there, or a free kick taker, we dont have anyone near his quality to back him up.. and dont tell me theres no need to back him up.. because look at the full backs.. they're taller that what we've got down forward..
anyways... i dont really care about essendon right now.. no need.. so bag away
Shoes said:Its all the losses the dons are havin hes getting emotionaland making no sense
bargey said:No, clubs don't need a FF these days.
The last five premiership sides:
North with Wayne Carey
Essendon with Matty Lloyd
Brisbane with Alistair Lynch
Port with Warren Tredrea
Sydney with Barry Hall
Who needs a focal point....
wolvesjr34 said:Hands up who would like to see Essendon finish last this year? Hands up who would be ecstatic if they don't win another game this year?
*hands up*
I'm happy even if Hawthorn loses for the rest of the year cos we stole a game from Essendon hehehe tho we have to beat them late in the year too, then I'll be truly satisfied.
I'm not about arguing merits of the team or not... I don't care if they play with their top 22 and lose or field a seconds team I just like to see them lose.
Shoes said:Essendon arent actually my most hated team I just like winding their supporters up like white-choc
I hate Brisbane Adelaide Port and Carlton much more than the dons
JZA said:wayne carey was a CHF. essendon are this season showing the effectiveness of relying on one focal point up forward. lynch was a pretty effective forward, but the midfield carried most of the load, they didnt rely mostly on him to win matches, like essendon do with lloyd. tredrea is more of a CHF, he leads well outside the 50.
anyway, the point i was making is going way off tangent here, i was talking about how the classic role of a FF is becoming obsolete in the modern game, and the top teams in the league are demonstrating this with their team structure and style of play. i think that much is pretty obvious. the days of the locketts, dunstals, modras, lloyds are over.
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