ESPN's Top 10 Point Guards!

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Magic Johnson

Team: Los Angeles Lakers (1979-91, 1996)
Titles: 5 (1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988)
Honors: 12-time All-Star, three-time MVP (1987, 1989, 1990), three-time Finals MVP (1980, 1982, 1987), Hall of Fame
The player: The prototype big point guard. The only player in NBA history who could dominate -- not just play -- all five positions.
Magic was the best ever in transition. He led the break and shoved the ball down your throat or backed you down and carved you up with a pass or drive.
He was unselfish -- but not to a fault (he'd take over and score when necessary) -- and he made passing cool.
Given his age (a rookie at age 20), the stakes (NBA Finals), the opponent (Dr. J and the 76ers) and the fact that he moved to center to replace injured legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic's 42-point, 15-rebound, 7-assist, 3-steal effort in the title-clinching Game 6 of the 1980 NBA Finals was probably the best individual performance of all time.

Oscar Robertson

Teams: Cincinnati Royals (1961-70), Milwaukee Bucks (1970-74)
Titles: 1 (1971)
Honors: 12-time All-Star, 1961 ROY, 1964 MVP, Hall of Fame
The player: The gold standard, two decades ahead of his time.
Oscar was one of the smartest players ever. There has never been a better post-up guard.
We hear about "The Big O" averaging a triple-double for one season (1961-62), but he actually averaged a triple-double over the first five seasons of his career (1960-65) when the games are strung together. In those 384 games, he averaged an astounding 30.3 points, 10.6 assists and 10.4 rebounds.

Isaiah Thomas

Team: Detroit Pistons (1981-94)
Titles: 2 (1989, 1990)
Honors: 12-time All-Star, 1990 Finals MVP, Hall of Fame
The player: He was the smallest and baddest of the Bad Boys. He was an absolute killer on the court with as much heart, will and toughness as playing ability.
Isiah willed his team to a championship level. He was at his best when it counted -- in the playoffs. Against New York in the 1984 playoffs he scored 16 points in the last 94 seconds of regulation to send Game 5 into overtime.

John Stockton

Team: Utah Jazz (1984-2003)
Titles: 0
Honors: 10-time All-Star
The player: His durability, toughness, leadership, poise, efficiency, vision and longevity were phenomenal.
Stockton might be the most deceptive point guard ever.
All-time leader in assists and steals, with a .515 shooting percentage. Very efficient.
Sustained excellence overcomes the absence of rings. The Stockton-Malone pick-and-roll will be the measuring stick for years to come.

Bob Cousy

Teams: Boston Celtics (1950-63), Cincinnati Royals (1969-70)
Titles: 6 (1957, 1959-63)
Honors: 13-time All-Star, 1957 MVP, Hall of Fame
The player: Cousy was ahead of his time with his ballhandling and passing skills.
He won more championships than any other point guard and was one of only four point guards to win MVP. The guy who made it all click for the NBA's greatest dynasty ever

Walt Frazier

Teams: New York Knicks (1967-77), Cleveland Cavaliers (1977-79)
Titles: 2 (1970, 1973)
Honors: 7-time All-Star, Hall of Fame
The player: Perhaps the best defensive point guard of all time. He was also a great scorer, rebounder, assist man and floor general. A true team player, but when he needed to take over he did.
In Game 7 of the 1970 Finals against Wilt, West and the Lakers, he notched 36 points, 19 assists and 5 steals to make up for a hobbled Willis Reed.
No one did it better with more style and grace on the world's greatest stage.

Jason Kidd

Teams: Dallas Mavericks (1994-97), Phoenix Suns (1997-2001), New Jersey Nets (2001-present)
Titles: 0
Honors: 7-time All-Star, 1995 Co-ROY
The player: A brilliant passer -- his 9.2 assists per game average trail only Magic, Stockton and Oscar.
He's a terrific leader and intelligent competitor. Can beat an opponent in so many ways without scoring a point. J-Kidd is able to do precisely the right thing at the right time at the right place.

Tiny Archibald

Teams: Cincinnati Royals (1970-72), Kansas City-Omaha Kings (1972-75), Kansas City Kings (1975-76), New York Nets (1976-77), Boston Celtics (1978-83), Milwaukee Bucks (1983-84)
Titles: 1 (1981)
Honors: Six-time All-Star, Hall of Fame
The player: A candidate for title of most dominant "little guy" ever.
As the first point guard to make scoring his emphasis, Tiny was the only player ever to lead the league in scoring and assists in the same season (34 and 11.4, 1972-73).
Awesome individual talent who had a lot of A.I. in him early in his career. Invented penetration

Steve Nash

Teams: Phoenix Suns (1996-98, 2004-present), Dallas Mavericks (1998-2004)
Titles: 0
Honors: Four-time All-Star, two-time MVP (2005, 2006)
The player: His performance over the last two years in Phoenix has put him in this elite category. He's the only point guard other than Magic to win back-to-back MVPs.
Takes the "makes players around him better" tag to a whole new level. Has the ability to make entire teams adjust to his style of play.

Gary Payton

Teams: Seattle SuperSonics (1990-2003), Milwaukee Bucks (2003), Los Angeles Lakers (2003-04), Boston Celtics (2004-05), Miami Heat (2005-present)
Titles: 0
Honors: Nine-time All-Star, 1996 Defensive POY
The player: More swagger than a gunslinger.
As a lockdown defender nicknamed "The Glove," he's one of the few point guards in Frazier's class defensively.
Great scorer who could run a team and, when necessary, put the club on his back. Break down his career and you'll conclude he's been underrated.
 
Personally the only change I would make..would be ranking Jason Kidd and Steve Nash a little bit higher.. great to see Gary making the top 10!
 
great list there, good to see the current crop of PGs Kidd and Nash didnt get overlooked. i love gary but i think he was lucky to get in the top 10 all time.

i think zeke is a little overrated, definitely a little high at 3rd best.
 
It's a shame that Stockton never got a ring... :(

Kidd and Nash might go that way too if they don't get one soon.

But great for them to make that list!
 
Yeah what's up with that! Maybe the list was put up last season or something.

it was from last year!

JZA - i don't think Gary was lucky to get in, he definately SHOULD have been in.. people forget what he used to do. How many point guards give you 20+ ppg and 8+ apg with 2+ spg but more importantly are factors on BOTH the offensive and defensive end.

You definately can't say that about more than 3 or 4 point guards in the NBA right now! And past the statistics Gary's team at least had winning records most of the seasons, going to countless postseasons and then the Finals.

He was also the Defensive Player of the Year before, honestly I don't think there has been a better defensive point guard in the past 10 years.
 
I quite like that list.... I don't think I'd change it.

But.... forgive me for saying this, but I thought Magic was more of a 2 Guard, I mean, I know he handled the rock, but so does Lebron, and that doesnt make him a PG.
 
I've always seen Magic as a point guard, I remember his flashy passes alot more than I remember him scoring, although he could do both easily.
Oscar Robertson stats were a killer for all that time. What a machine.
 
I've always seen Magic as a point guard, I remember his flashy passes alot more than I remember him scoring, although he could do both easily.
Oscar Robertson stats were a killer for all that time. What a machine.

Oscar Robertson is no doubt the most statistically impressive ever.

I don't care that Wilt got 100 points and averaged like 50 ppg and 30 rpg for one season or something like that.

The BIG O played in a much harder era, didn't have the physical dominance of Wilt and averaged a freakin triple double for a season and close to it for like 5 others!!
 
Gary Payton

Teams: Seattle SuperSonics (1990-2003), Milwaukee Bucks (2003), Los Angeles Lakers (2003-04), Boston Celtics (2004-05), Miami Heat (2005-present)
Titles: 0

correct me if im wrong but didnt Payton win a title last year? :p

and as much as i like the glove as a player i dont think hes one of the best 10 PGs ever
 
Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Lenny Wilkens? i guess with Payton any of those could throw their hand up, maybe not so much KJ coz of injuries but he had not copped injuries he'd have been top 5 on the list
 
Question Matty & Jez - If payton shouldn't be on the list who would you replace him with?

good question, definitely lenny wilkens id put up there...maybe mark price. on second thought, id probably have to put the glove in there...i guess great PGs are a rare commodity. KJ i love to death but i cant in good conscience put him up there in top 10 territory. am i crazy or was jerry west a PG...he couldnt have been cos no way hed be left of any top 10 list?
 
Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Lenny Wilkens? i guess with Payton any of those could throw their hand up, maybe not so much KJ coz of injuries but he had not copped injuries he'd have been top 5 on the list

hmmm!! KJ maybe.. Tim Hardaway possibly!

I don't think any of the guards you listed though brought the sheer completeness and efficiency that GP brought on both the offensive and defensive end of the floor.
 
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