ESP Release on Ebay

Telfs Card Park · Aug 12, 2012

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2012-NRL..._Rugby_League_Merchandise&hash=item3a771d6e40 Anyone seen these??? A sig is 1 in 60 packs and you get 18 packs in a box man there will be some crapola boxes around with this release but overall I am pumped for this release!

Tanswell87 · Aug 12, 2012

Yeah I seen them a few weeks ago. Really bland looking cards hope they improve massively when they take over next year.

Diggaz TC · Aug 13, 2012

So with 180 packs in a case it's basically 6 signature cards per case. 10 boxes in a case so there will be 4 boxes out of 10 that have nothing in them but base and 6 parallel cards??? Umm, i'm not so sure about this now.

tak35bne · Aug 13, 2012

You don't even make a parallel set out of a case.............

thenamesgould · Aug 13, 2012

Digeze said:
So with 180 packs in a case it's basically 3 signature cards per case. 10 boxes in a case so there will be 7 boxes out of 10 that have nothing in them but base and 6 parallel cards??? Umm, i'm not so sure about this now.

By my calc, roughly 2/3 boxes should have either a sig or a jersey patch card.

GiRDS- · Aug 13, 2012

lol such a shit release base set for me and thats it

GiRDS- · Aug 13, 2012

Telfs Card Park said:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2012-NRL..._Rugby_League_Merchandise&hash=item3a771d6e40 Anyone seen these??? A sig is 1 in 60 packs and you get 18 packs in a box man there will be some crapola boxes around with this release but overall I am pumped for this release!

http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/comm...ion-trading-cards.121802/page-21#post-1131552

heres a thread of 22 pages about them

ooneil · Aug 13, 2012

It will be a good release if you like throwing away money.

ooneil · Aug 13, 2012

Btw I know cases are for sale on the bay for $1400 but I'm told the wholesale price from Ikon Collectibles is $1100.

Even at that price I fail to see the money in these cases.

The mix of inserts is horrible - how can you go from a 1:3 insert and jump to a 1:36 insert without anything else in between. Dynamic marketing version 2.0.

Diggaz TC · Aug 13, 2012

ooneil said:
but I'm told the wholesale price from Ikon Collectibles is $1100.

Less than that...

ooneil · Aug 13, 2012

Really? I know a seller who paid that price for some cases - saw the print out. They are gonna be .

Mr Grasshopper · Aug 13, 2012

Interesting to see how the market responds to this release, if I had any more cash I would buy an other box of Dynasty, better odds.

So how much would the signature cards fetch at these odds? I would expect at least $500.00 each

ooneil · Aug 13, 2012

Mr Grasshopper said:
So how much would the signature cards fetch at these odds? I would expect at least $500.00 each

Lob a zero off that and i think you are getting closer. Pretty sure someone said that there are 300 or 400 of these signature and jersey signature cards??

tak35bne · Aug 13, 2012

ooneil said:
Lob a zero off that and i think you are getting closer. Pretty sure someone said that there are 300 or 400 of these signature and jersey signature cards??

I think it worked out to something like 380 each from memory.

Diggaz TC · Aug 13, 2012

Initially $150-$180 because that's what sellers will need to sell them for to make money off the case. (The 1st couple of weeks people will probably pay more than that)

Then, due to the insane volume of these cards i can't see them holding value and the price will be forced down...sellers will see that there is little money in selling the inserts (which i guess was ESP's goal to start with) and will be trying to push sealed boxes/cases.

tak35bne · Aug 13, 2012

Digeze said:
Initially $150-$180 because that's what sellers will need to sell them for to make money off the case. (The 1st couple of weeks people will probably pay more than that)

Then, due to the insane volume of these cards i can't see them holding value and the price will be forced down...sellers will see that there is little money in selling the inserts (which i guess was ESP's goal to start with) and will be trying to push sealed boxes/cases.

Michael, do you think we are going to see a dramatic shift in the price of base sets and parallel sets? I think Parallel sets more so with ESP.

Diggaz TC · Aug 13, 2012

I think the base sets could be cheaper when you look at Dynasty as a comparison

If Dynasty is a 390 case release = 4680 boxes (at around 1.5 base sets per box) = 7020 sets
ESP is a 840 case = 8400 boxes (only just short of 2 base sets per box with 144 cards per box minus 6 parallels and any signature cards) Around 16,000 sets.

You would think parallel sets will be solid though with a case not producing a set...maximum 700 sets available which likely gets close to halved by the fact that many people just collect their teams' players

Diggaz TC · Aug 13, 2012

Is that right...16,000 sets seems absolutely ridiculously high...you will struggle to give them away 20 years from now.

edit: well i guess some Champions releases are said to be 20,000 boxes so i guess it is relative....if rep sets garner the same attention that NRL teams sets do???

ooneil · Aug 13, 2012

Your numbers seem right. Like i said - dont see the money in a case.

With 16,000 base sets perhaps we can start playing flickers again.

#1 Eels fan · Aug 13, 2012

i was going to try a get a case but maybe not now

i thought the hits were at better odds than that

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