eBay and Paypal -The Big Loophole Scam plus ebay member syoung5599.

ooneil said:

Maybe someone like google will come in one day and crush them. We can hope i guess.

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ooneil said:

True. Maybe Visa or Mastercard will try to team up with someone. I just look at the mountain of money ebay/paypal are making and think that at some stage someone wants a piece of it. Wishful thinking maybe.

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A_Iverson_I said:

Did you ever contact TT Matt!?

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GarnettFan4Life said:

23 JULY - paypal sides with buyer and says a full refund will be granted if they send back the cards. Account in negative balance.


PLEASE tell me how this is logical. ebay and paypal have ALL the info on how this buyer is avoiding the rules and yet still decides within 2 days on this??????

There is NO WAY for a seller to be covered unless they film themselves from the packing the cards point up to the postoffice and hand the cards over! This is ridiculous. I'm DONE with these 2 scammers, fuming right now.

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fastnbulbous said:

I've actually done this for a few some more expensive cards i've sent off.
Not quite to the extent of me filming the transaction and friendly banter i have with the sales staff at auspost, but i've taken pictures of me filling out the address/packntrack type forms with the cards in their envelopes before sealing it up.

I guess that'd still be technically insufficient.

Furthermore i have also done also done this on the receiving end and filmed myself opening parcels which are meant to be more expensive purchases, just in case they do not contain what they're meant to!

The amount of crap that seems to happen (although fortunately has't to me yet) makes me paranoid like this...

What would be great is to have some kind of service which acts as an independent mediator. They receive the funds and items as a middle man and make sure each party is passing on what they said they would. It's probably unfeasible from a business standpoint and maybe only useful for larger deals, but it'd help keep the buyer honest and not try to scam people as well.

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GarnettFan4Life said:

I can't remember if I put it in the thread but paypal said they refuse to look at/consider video evidence as there is the chance for people to digitally alter them. Sure, they may be right, but to put it in the too hard basket (which is what they've done by siding with the buyer every time) is ridiculous but in the long term yes, would save them some money. It sucks, it really does.

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