2024 Elite NRL Official Thread

[Matt26]

Nathan Cleary Black Diamond Mojo sold on eBay for $2k last night, insane.

Interesting that the seller had a number of auctions that closed that were won by bidders who had 85%< bidding activity with them.

In the case of the Cleary the winner was 100% bidding activity with that seller.

Someone could be trying to manipulate the market, shill bid or someone is targeting this seller with high bids and no intention to actually pay.

 

[Matt26]

Here is the bid history on the Cleary:

Winning Bidder (380 Feedback) - 100% bidding activity with this seller
2nd (245 Feedback) - 42% bidding activity with this seller (max bid to try and beat everybody up to that price?)
3rd (181 Feedback) - 33% bidding activity with this seller
4th (470 Feedback) - 87% bidding activity with this seller

There were 2 other auctions I was watching, one a jersey patch (non signed version) of Jarome Luai that went for $235 with the winner having 86% bidding activity with the seller.

Another was a Liam Martin Black LS (#19/45) - sold for $325 with the winning bidder having 94% bidding activity with the seller.

Some interesting bidding........

 

[Rocket1908]

was just looking at this trying to get BD comps. insane behaviour, not even the #1 too. was at $670 before the game on thursday too

 

[shane_sharks]

more bids on that card, than games Cleary has played this year

 

[ozsportscardcollector]

I saw that card on ebay

Nathan Cleary Black Diamond Mojo sold on eBay for $2k last night, insane

Are those the ones out of /5 ?

I think I saw the auction when it was at $800 and thought what's going on. I don't know the NRL market that well but I know all about parallels.

2K is a massive overpay imo. It's manufactured scarcity and he's going to have those exact same cards (exact imo anyway) in another 7 or 8 releases or whenever he decides to retire. There's an auction currently that has his 2017 Traders facimila auto SAS signature series Gold /500. That's at $200 currently and in the long run may be a more valuable card than the black mojo. Full disclosure I own one of those.

Also, is dual auto with pops is going for $800. That's not a steal, but imo ten times better value than a non-auto card that has manufactured scarcity.

P.S. If the auction was fully legit and the buyer happy that's all that matters but it seems like a lot of money.

 

[Matt26]

I saw that card on ebay

Are those the ones out of /5 ?

I think I saw the auction when it was at $800 and thought what's going on. I don't know the NRL market that well but I know all about parallels.

2K is a massive overpay imo. It's manufactured scarcity and he's going to have those exact same cards (exact imo anyway) in another 7 or 8 releases or whenever he decides to retire. There's an auction currently that has his 2017 Traders facimila auto SAS signature series Gold /500. That's at $200 currently and in the long run may be a more valuable card than the black mojo. Full disclosure I own one of those.

Also, is dual auto with pops is going for $800. That's not a steal, but imo ten times better value than a non-auto card that has manufactured scarcity.

P.S. If the auction was fully legit and the buyer happy that's all that matters but it seems like a lot of money.

If its a legit sale and the buyer is happy, good luck to them and you are right....id rather have a dual Ivan/Nathan auto than an unsigned parallel card.

The dual autos can also be had for a lot less than $800 as well!

 

[ozsportscardcollector]

Here is the bid history on the Cleary:

Winning Bidder (380 Feedback) - 100% bidding activity with this seller
2nd (245 Feedback) - 42% bidding activity with this seller (max bid to try and beat everybody up to that price?)
3rd (181 Feedback) - 33% bidding activity with this seller
4th (470 Feedback) - 87% bidding activity with this seller

There were 2 other auctions I was watching, one a jersey patch (non signed version) of Jarome Luai that went for $235 with the winner having 86% bidding activity with the seller.

Another was a Liam Martin Black LS (#19/45) - sold for $325 with the winning bidder having 94% bidding activity with the seller.

Some interesting bidding........

Shill bidding is rampant in the American sports. It would suck if that happened in NRL.

 

[ozsportscardcollector]

If its a legit sale and the buyer is happy, good luck to them and you are right....id rather have a dual Ivan/Nathan auto than an unsigned parallel card.

The dual autos can also be had for a lot less than $800 as well!

Licensed autos are king imo. A lot lot less than $800 sounds good. I wonder how many were produced?

 

[ozsportscardcollector]

Here is the bid history on the Cleary:

Winning Bidder (380 Feedback) - 100% bidding activity with this seller
2nd (245 Feedback) - 42% bidding activity with this seller (max bid to try and beat everybody up to that price?)
3rd (181 Feedback) - 33% bidding activity with this seller
4th (470 Feedback) - 87% bidding activity with this seller

There were 2 other auctions I was watching, one a jersey patch (non signed version) of Jarome Luai that went for $235 with the winner having 86% bidding activity with the seller.

Another was a Liam Martin Black LS (#19/45) - sold for $325 with the winning bidder having 94% bidding activity with the seller.

Some interesting bidding........

Yeah, that doesn't look that great. The $800 bid looks legit at least

 

[tak35bne]

You would think for 2 grand you would get free registered post at least. I would be asking for insurance on that as well.

 

[Mattstorm]

Anyone else think there was a missed opportunity on the reflections? The gold and priority could have easily been different memories...

 

[Rocket1908]

Anyone else think there was a missed opportunity on the reflections? The gold and priority could have easily been different memories...

I think I would rather die than chase a priority-exclusive Reflection. I agree that they could've done more, but the priority Reflections replace the base ones iirc so there's almost no chance they'd make it anything but a parallel.
Quite frankly I like this subset with numbered parallels. Gives you a chance to get the base ones or go for a higher-end one and I think it's a subset that team collectors can universally appreciate

 

[myhobbycards]

those bidding patterns do look a bit sus tbh. high % of activity with one seller is often a red flag. hope it's not dodgy cos that ruins the hobby for everyone

 

[ozsportscardcollector]

It does indeed.

I was had with my first ever ebay auction courtesy of a PWCC run auction. It was in September 2018. I ended up paying $190USD for a 2017 Mitch Trubisky( 'Maserati Mitch') base Prizm auto in PSA10. At the time I was unaware of all the BS that went on in the hobby, especially PWCC's role in it all ( they eventually got kicked off ebay for shill bidding).Two days after I won that auction a Mitch Trubisky 2017 Prizm auto Blue Wave /150 PSA10 went for $130 through another seller. When you are stacking PSA10's of the same card up against each other and the one numbered to /150 goes for 30% less in the same week it's not just raised eyebrow time but guilty as charged time.

I contacted PWCC, called them out, and got a cock and bull story about how many eyeballs were on their auctions and that their marketing added at least a 25% premium. All lies. As confirmed by ebay who punted them a few years later. Pricks.

 

[Mattstorm]

Yeah, it's difficult unless you know what things should go for. Otherwise it's easy to get caught up in the idea that you want that one and overbid against those shill bidders.

 

[Rocket1908]

With the Indigenous all stars card in the Inglis set this year I wonder if it's possible to do a player from outside Australia like Benji Marshall as a Masters series with Club/NZ/All Stars or Maori All Stars as the signatures? He's probably the only one with enough All Stars games to make it work but it definitely gives them another option

 

[Mattstorm]

Cam Smith played 4 for NRL all stars, wonder if they'd highlight that if he ever did masters.

 

[Victor The Viking]

Another little error. The all times games played leader is Jason Croker, not Jarrod.

 

[Brendan_B]

Another little error. The all times games played leader is Jason Croker, not Jarrod.

Disappointed Buttriss didn’t get a mention !!

To be fair, I have lost count of the amount of commentators or print articles that have referred to Jarrod as Jason.

 

[ch0pzta]

My various boxes of Elite are starting to arrive.

All up i bought:
1 box
6 boxes
One case
3 boxes

So theres 20 boxes spread between 4 cases.

Ive opened the one box by itself and scored a Jordan Rapana Black Diamond Mojo 3/5 so stoked with that, not sure what I’ll do with it yet.

Will post results tomorrow and as they happen.