2013 ESP Elite NRL Cards Thread (Updated 5/8/13)

Bronco79 said:
Well that sucks. This would not have happened with Select! Thanks for your info
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You know what else wouldn't have happened with Select?

Cards being released this year!

Over the whinging in this thread. It needs a new title: Have a whinge about ESP.

Lets see what they've done wrong with this release:

  • Not released the checklist until release day. Was this really as bad as it was made out on this forum? It built excitement, it built anticipation and beat the hell out of 'sneak peeks'!
  • Shifted the release date due to logistical issues. Full transparency and communicated to the end users. Not much more you can ask for.
  • This one is yet to be confirmed but it appears the odd box may not stack up, ratio wise. Frustrating I agree but spare a thought for the Dynasty case buyers who missed a redemption. Fact is; these things happen.
  • Error on the Tim mannah card. Too early to criticise this as they may yet replace it
  • Insert here whatever else i have forgotten
What have they done right?

  • Produced a quality release with signature cards of genuine NRL stars. Argue with some of the selections but they are all high quality players (small concession for poor old Princey:) )
  • Hit on a ratio which excludes one and two per case hits, making case searching nigh on impossible (in my opinion but I'm sure I'll be shouted down)
  • Generated genuine excitement over a release. We can't underestimate this. We are all talking about it and the forum has exploded with the box breaks beginning.
  • Listened to consumers. Mistakes they made in traders, they corrected with Elite. They are getting better with each release and that is a good thing. The decision on when to release the checklist is theirs and theirs alone. They have given a sound justification. Move on.
  • Produced a release without Team of the Year, Club Player of the Year, etc. It's innovation, whether you love the selections or not.
  • Communicated more with us collectors than Select did. Presence at card fairs, relationships with Matt26 allowing him to update us here, etc.
For me the good far outweighs the bad and the fact that each release has been better than the last is fantastic.

Lets get back to discussing cards.

Rant over. Off to patiently await my delivery from Digeze:D
 
Coolidgee said:
You know what else wouldn't have happened with Select?

Cards being released this year!

Over the whinging in this thread. It needs a new title: Have a whinge about ESP.

Lets see what they've done wrong with this release:

  • Not released the checklist until release day. Was this really as bad as it was made out on this forum? It built excitement, it built anticipation and beat the hell out of 'sneak peeks'!
  • Shifted the release date due to logistical issues. Full transparency and communicated to the end users. Not much more you can ask for.
  • This one is yet to be confirmed but it appears the odd box may not stack up, ratio wise. Frustrating I agree but spare a thought for the Dynasty case buyers who missed a redemption. Fact is; these things happen.
  • Error on the Tim mannah card. Too early to criticise this as they may yet replace it
  • Insert here whatever else i have forgotten
What have they done right?


  • Produced a quality release with signature cards of genuine NRL stars. Argue with some of the selections but they are all high quality players (small concession for poor old Princey:) )
  • Hit on a ratio which excludes one and two per case hits, making case searching nigh on impossible (in my opinion but I'm sure I'll be shouted down)
  • Generated genuine excitement over a release. We can't underestimate this. We are all talking about it and the forum has exploded with the box breaks beginning.
  • Listened to consumers. Mistakes they made in traders, they corrected with Elite. They are getting better with each release and that is a good thing. The decision on when to release the checklist is theirs and theirs alone. They have given a sound justification. Move on.
  • Produced a release without Team of the Year, Club Player of the Year, etc. It's innovation, whether you love the selections or not.
  • Communicated more with us collectors than Select did. Presence at card fairs, relationships with Matt26 allowing him to update us here, etc.
For me the good far outweighs the bad and the fact that each release has been better than the last is fantastic.


Lets get back to discussing cards.

Rant over. Off to patiently await my delivery from Digeze:D
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Amen........

By the way, I spoke with Terry about the Mannah card and they are aware of it and looking to rectify this.

Cheers
Matt
 
nznrl said:
I'm pretty happy with the choice of Buderus. I can't remember another sig he has done since 2005 (maybe a tazo) which beats the hell out of another Gidley and each of the others you list has a sig already too. Plus I wish they would do a lot more sigs of heroes of yesteryear - Buderus has been a great player for Newcastle.

I'm more disappointed about having yet another Mitchell Pearce
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No doubt he was a great player for the knights... Just a bit past his time now imo... Better than prince though!!! Lol.. would have loved to see a hodges or a hannant!!
Would definitely like to see a Heros sig set with langer, Daley, meninga etc.. like the legend die cuts, scoring kings or even a enforcer or league leaders type sig set. Maybe next year
 
Coolidgee said:
You know what else wouldn't have happened with Select?

Cards being released this year!

Over the whinging in this thread. It needs a new title: Have a whinge about ESP.

Lets see what they've done wrong with this release:

  • Not released the checklist until release day. Was this really as bad as it was made out on this forum? It built excitement, it built anticipation and beat the hell out of 'sneak peeks'!
  • Shifted the release date due to logistical issues. Full transparency and communicated to the end users. Not much more you can ask for.
  • This one is yet to be confirmed but it appears the odd box may not stack up, ratio wise. Frustrating I agree but spare a thought for the Dynasty case buyers who missed a redemption. Fact is; these things happen.
  • Error on the Tim mannah card. Too early to criticise this as they may yet replace it
  • Insert here whatever else i have forgotten
What have they done right?

  • Produced a quality release with signature cards of genuine NRL stars. Argue with some of the selections but they are all high quality players (small concession for poor old Princey:) )
  • Hit on a ratio which excludes one and two per case hits, making case searching nigh on impossible (in my opinion but I'm sure I'll be shouted down)
  • Generated genuine excitement over a release. We can't underestimate this. We are all talking about it and the forum has exploded with the box breaks beginning.
  • Listened to consumers. Mistakes they made in traders, they corrected with Elite. They are getting better with each release and that is a good thing. The decision on when to release the checklist is theirs and theirs alone. They have given a sound justification. Move on.
  • Produced a release without Team of the Year, Club Player of the Year, etc. It's innovation, whether you love the selections or not.
  • Communicated more with us collectors than Select did. Presence at card fairs, relationships with Matt26 allowing him to update us here, etc.
For me the good far outweighs the bad and the fact that each release has been better than the last is fantastic.

Lets get back to discussing cards.

Rant over. Off to patiently await my delivery from Digeze:D
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Coolidgee said:
You know what else wouldn't have happened with Select?

Cards being released this year!

Over the whinging in this thread. It needs a new title: Have a whinge about ESP.

Lets see what they've done wrong with this release:

  • Not released the checklist until release day. Was this really as bad as it was made out on this forum? It built excitement, it built anticipation and beat the hell out of 'sneak peeks'!
  • Shifted the release date due to logistical issues. Full transparency and communicated to the end users. Not much more you can ask for.
  • This one is yet to be confirmed but it appears the odd box may not stack up, ratio wise. Frustrating I agree but spare a thought for the Dynasty case buyers who missed a redemption. Fact is; these things happen.
  • Error on the Tim mannah card. Too early to criticise this as they may yet replace it
  • Insert here whatever else i have forgotten
What have they done right?

  • Produced a quality release with signature cards of genuine NRL stars. Argue with some of the selections but they are all high quality players (small concession for poor old Princey:) )
  • Hit on a ratio which excludes one and two per case hits, making case searching nigh on impossible (in my opinion but I'm sure I'll be shouted down)
  • Generated genuine excitement over a release. We can't underestimate this. We are all talking about it and the forum has exploded with the box breaks beginning.
  • Listened to consumers. Mistakes they made in traders, they corrected with Elite. They are getting better with each release and that is a good thing. The decision on when to release the checklist is theirs and theirs alone. They have given a sound justification. Move on.
  • Produced a release without Team of the Year, Club Player of the Year, etc. It's innovation, whether you love the selections or not.
  • Communicated more with us collectors than Select did. Presence at card fairs, relationships with Matt26 allowing him to update us here, etc.
For me the good far outweighs the bad and the fact that each release has been better than the last is fantastic.

Lets get back to discussing cards.

Rant over. Off to patiently await my delivery from Digeze:D
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All valid points, but I beg to differ the one about communicating more with collectors. I am a collector yet know very little about this release. As a collector, I like to find out info on ones website. I can't find anything anywhere on ESP's website about the release of these cards. Just disappointing that's all all this waiting.
 
Bronco79 said:
All valid points, but I beg to differ the one about communicating more with collectors. I am a collector yet know very little about this release. As a collector, I like to find out info on ones website. I can't find anything anywhere on ESP's website about the release of these cards. Just disappointing that's all all this waiting.
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I agree with Coolidgee in pretty much everything he has written in an eloquent post. Especially the fact that we have a very high qualty set with the best set of sigs in ages.

People said at the time of 2012 Elite that ESP would be judged on the improvements made to their next Elite set after their settling in period. They have certainly done some magnificent things and there is definite improvement. I am just disappointed that they haven't acted upon the biggest piece of critical feedback they got from that set, which was the trash boxes in between the hits - fixing that was called for by all.

Unlike 2012 I think this release is terrific value for money and after the initial shock and dread I am content to focus on the excitement of mine and others busting now. As said, the positives do outweigh the negatives.
 
jre_81 said:
Exactly.. he's played 5 games for the knights since 08 I'd rather Mullen,Boyd,uate myself and definitly think the chief is the second best knight ever.. Then Sargent! But all good as long as your happy mate.
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He played 22 of 24 last year for the Knights, and won a couple of superleague premierships while he was in England. I'm Paul Harragon's biggest fan, but Buderus has achieved more in the game than Harragon did.
 
Bronco79 said:
All valid points, but I beg to differ the one about communicating more with collectors. I am a collector yet know very little about this release. As a collector, I like to find out info on ones website. I can't find anything anywhere on ESP's website about the release of these cards. Just disappointing that's all all this waiting.
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http://www.elitesports.com.au/merch-merch-case-studies/collectibles-nrl-elite-cards/

It's all there. The difference between their website and Select's is that Select's was a trading cards dedicated website. Trading cards is just one arm of ESP so it won't stand out as much on the website
 
sorry if this is off the subject but does anyone know which shops or newsagents on the gold coast would be stocking elite i want to buy few packets but not a box
 
quote="ch0pzta, post: 1331617, member: 5887"]"MILLERS FORBES NEWSAGENCY PTY LTD 70 RANKIN STREET FORBES 2871 NSW"

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I'm gunna have a look right now.[/quote]
U will be waitin till Friday for these to arrive lol
 
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