2011/12 Barclay's Premier League Thread

sgt_pepper · Nov 27, 2011

yeah, but city are a different team than they were last season aswell. much better...

ljandkg · Nov 27, 2011

For sure - and in my eyes King Kenny hasn't improved Liverpool one iota - I'm pretty sure stats back that up too. He's spent a truckload of cash on Carroll, Henderson and others and the results have pretty much been the same. On form we should win but.......

sgt_pepper · Nov 27, 2011

/\/\ yeah, i agree, except i thought initially the players brought in (carroll not included) were alright, and they should have a good season, but in reality, theyre just as poor as they were last season and havent shown that theyre a quality side ready to make a proper top4 challenge.
youre right tho, the scousers could get a result, just not because theyre a top side...

ljandkg · Nov 28, 2011

Man Suarez is a diving biatch....touch his foot he flops like he's been shot...

Harsha_12 · Nov 28, 2011

Guys, I don't understand How Kenny has Done a Bad Job? His done way better than Roy Hodgson and a better job than Rafa Benitez in his last season. Liverpool deserve to beat Man City, they played brilliant and surprise surprise Mario Balotelli got a red card.

siladee · Nov 28, 2011

City keeper with an amazing save in the final minutes!

rishgoon · Nov 28, 2011

Harsha_12 said:
Guys, I don't understand How Kenny has Done a Bad Job? His done way better than Roy Hodgson and a better job than Rafa Benitez in his last season. Liverpool deserve to beat Man City, they played brilliant and surprise surprise Mario Balotelli got a red card.

I'm not sure he's done that much better than Hodgson so far. I can't see Liverpool finishing top 4, but unless Dalglish walks, Liverpool will have a lot more patience with him than they would anyone else. Same as with Rafa, if he hadn't won that Champions League, he would've been gone a lot sooner. In that sense I think it is fair enough, too many clubs sack the manager too quickly.

ljandkg · Nov 28, 2011

Harsha_12 said:
Guys, I don't understand How Kenny has Done a Bad Job? His done way better than Roy Hodgson and a better job than Rafa Benitez in his last season. Liverpool deserve to beat Man City, they played brilliant and surprise surprise Mario Balotelli got a red card.

If u show me the stats where he's done way better than Hodgson I'll believe you... Agreed they played better than City but they also only scored off a deflected goal... Not like they tore us apart...
As for Mario - we were due some bad....Atkinson had some interesting stats regarding red cards and Liverpool, that's for sure...

sgt_pepper · Nov 28, 2011

Harsha_12 said:
Guys, I don't understand How Kenny has Done a Bad Job? His done way better than Roy Hodgson and a better job than Rafa Benitez in his last season. Liverpool deserve to beat Man City, they played brilliant and surprise surprise Mario Balotelli got a red card.

statistically hes only done a little bit better than hodgson. but he had to spend $50mill to do it.
they played well last night, but overall this season theyve been really poor on the pitch.

hodgson: 31games (13W - 9D - 9L) 41% win ratio.
kenny: 39 games (20W - 10D - 9L) 51% win ratio.

most of kennys extra wins came when he first rocked up. theyve been on the decline since then in my opinion.

Harsha_12 · Nov 28, 2011

Yeh its been on a decline. I think most draws have come from this year. Plus with Kenny his had a better start then Hodgson had last Year. Both goals in the match were lucky.

ljandkg · Nov 28, 2011

Harsha_12 said:
Yeh its been on a decline. I think most draws have come from this year. Plus with Kenny his had a better start then Hodgson had last Year. Both goals in the match were lucky.

Lucky!!! try putting the ball in the net with your shoulder!!! ;-)

Liverpool seem to get up for the bigger teams and are rubbish vs the smaller ones....

Harsha_12 · Nov 28, 2011

You can say skill but i'd say skill and luck. They seriously need to do better against worst teams.

ooneil · Nov 28, 2011

ljandkg said:
As for Mario - we were due some bad....Atkinson had some interesting stats regarding red cards and Liverpool, that's for sure...

Your in dream land if you think that was not deserved.

I think Kenny has done a better job than Hodgson - he had less of a squad than Roy did. In saying that Hodgson is definitely the better manager IMO

sgt_pepper · Nov 28, 2011

/\/\ was definately a 2nd yellow...
not sure how kenny has/had less of a squad than roy? squad size is about the same, and no one of importance really left (unless you count torres). hes also spent alot more money than roy did.

Jaames · Nov 28, 2011

Best thing the Reds can do is get rid of Suarez while he still has a high price on his head. The dive after dive and cry baby antics when his team mates don't pass to him makes me sick.

And I'm a life long Reds supporter.

ooneil · Nov 28, 2011

Under Hogdson they lost Torres (okay he is rubbish now but then was one of the best strikers in Europe), Mascherano, Babel, Benayoun - all first team players lost.

Kenny has spent a bit but its mostly on Suarez and Carroll. I dont think he has had much say on either of those signings.

sgt_pepper · Nov 28, 2011

ooneil said:
Under Hogdson they lost Torres (okay he is rubbish now but then was one of the best strikers in Europe), Mascherano, Babel, Benayoun - all first team players lost.

Kenny has spent a bit but its mostly on Suarez and Carroll. I dont think he has had much say on either of those signings.

babel and yossi were 1st team, but benched most of the time. babel in particular. never got a proper run @ anfield. and torres was already rubbish when kenny sold him. its not like any of those guys leaving made kenny's job any harder? granted, i forgot about mascherano.
he spent a fair chunk on henderson aswell. and downing.

sgt_pepper · Nov 29, 2011

beckham says city dont have a chance. i think its too early to be making stoopid statements along those lines...

ooneil · Nov 29, 2011

If he is talking UCL he is spot on - other than that i hope he is right but think he is kidding himself. Maybe he wants to come play with Man U again.

sgt_pepper · Nov 29, 2011

/\/\ nah, hes talking epl title. fool.
thats not to say i think city will definately win it. my money is still on united. but to just dismiss them isnt right...

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