2011 NBA FINALS - Dallas v Miami - SPOILERS within!
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jimboiitmac
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Ouch that one stings. I love watching the game late on IQ, lol and then coming on here and reading all the reactions because it finished a half hour late.
Combination of the Heat really blowing it, and the Mavericks seizing the moment. Dirk came up big.
My thoughts on the last few minutes: The Kidd 3 to cut it from 9 to 6 with 4 minutes to go was massive. Then what can I say, poor offensive trips by the Heat. Mavericks pressured them well but LeBron went away from the offense, and didn't get it to Wade who had been hot all game. I could only shake my head when LeBron shot those two fade-away 3's in back to back possessions, and then Wade settling for the 3 when there was still 5 seconds left on the shot-clock.
LeBron has been a great closer, so some of his shots you live with. But there were definitely some poor decisions there, and a bit too much hero ball at the end. Chalmers came up big with that trey but the Mavs had all the momentum, Bosh played him well to begin with, but was soft on the drive. Besides, Heat had a foul to give, they should have fouled when Dirk caught the ball - making the Mavs have to inbound it with less time on the clock to put it in Dirk's hands, meaning he probably would have shot a fade-away.
Makes it interesting though, the Mavs have looked outmatched in almost 7 of the 8 quarters that have been played so far. Now we have a series.
Combination of the Heat really blowing it, and the Mavericks seizing the moment. Dirk came up big.
My thoughts on the last few minutes: The Kidd 3 to cut it from 9 to 6 with 4 minutes to go was massive. Then what can I say, poor offensive trips by the Heat. Mavericks pressured them well but LeBron went away from the offense, and didn't get it to Wade who had been hot all game. I could only shake my head when LeBron shot those two fade-away 3's in back to back possessions, and then Wade settling for the 3 when there was still 5 seconds left on the shot-clock.
LeBron has been a great closer, so some of his shots you live with. But there were definitely some poor decisions there, and a bit too much hero ball at the end. Chalmers came up big with that trey but the Mavs had all the momentum, Bosh played him well to begin with, but was soft on the drive. Besides, Heat had a foul to give, they should have fouled when Dirk caught the ball - making the Mavs have to inbound it with less time on the clock to put it in Dirk's hands, meaning he probably would have shot a fade-away.
Makes it interesting though, the Mavs have looked outmatched in almost 7 of the 8 quarters that have been played so far. Now we have a series.
Absolute baloney. The Mavs have only been outplayed in the 3rd and 4th of their first two matches and only in G2 the Mavs actually managed to pull a comeback from the deficit. They have not been outplayed 7 out of 8, where is this coming from? At worst, they've been outplayed 4 of the 8 quarters.
The Mavs interior defense and transition defense in G2 was awful, it really was. So many points lost off turnovers and from layups and dunks, some real sloppy passes and not taking care of the ball.
ssj4johnjohn
Life iz a ball game...
I'm with MIA all tha way... It's gonna be a good series tho... both solid teams... can't forget the Heat have already knocked out Boston & Chicago...
And the last time these teams met in the final... Miami won their first title... I hoping history repeats =P
And the last time these teams met in the final... Miami won their first title... I hoping history repeats =P
jimboiitmac
miami pride
Well considering the Mavericks have only outscored the Heat in 1 quarter through 2 games, which was an unbelievable comeback (likely that won't happen twice this series) and a collapse from the Heat as well.
That's just my opinion. You don't have to agree with it. Apart from this 4th quarter of Game 2, every other quarter they have either been outscored, or tied scoring with the Heat. And the entire time even with the score close the Heat have looked in control and the Mavericks have looked just lucky to be hanging around.
Now that they've taken this home game from the Heat I expect them to look like a bit more heartened in the coming games.
Game 3 should be explosive with LeBron and the Heat likely pissed about letting this one go, and the Mavericks with a renewed sense of confidence in themselves going home.
Think you need to get your stats right. Qtr by Qtr score is 3-2 miami way with 3 ties. Mavs hardly have looked lucky to be in the games. Miami were lucky Mavs didn't blow them out early in both games because they had 8-10 point leads early on. Only reason Miami got the 15 point lead is because Mavs were careless with the ball.
This could really suck the life out of Miami and Lebron especially. Blowing a 15 point lead late in the 4th, which would have put one hand on the championship, only to have it ripped away could be very demoralising.
G1 1st quarter.
They've only been outscored in 3 quarters of this series jim. If you go on that premise that Miami Heat have outplayed Dallas in those quarters, then Miami MUST be damned lucky to have tied the ballgame, because outplaying an opponent but having no lead to show for it means that Dallas doesn't even have to play well to have an even score in the quarter since evidently, they've been "outplayed". How does that make any sense?
jimboiitmac
miami pride
No my complete point is that throughout the first two games, apart from this last quarter of Game 2 - the Mavericks have just looked outmatched. I can't be bothered to get into a debate of technicalities, those were just my comments, reacting fresh from the game. Take them however you want. The same to you Heafy
That's just my personal observation from the two games that I've watched.
Watching the post-game press conference live. LeBron and Wade are talking about how the loss was due to defense. I guess that's true since the Mavericks scored a lot of points in not a lot of time. You can never expect LeBron to own up to taking bad shots though I guess.. Although it'd be a different story if he made them. Bit of a double-edged sword there.
jimboiitmac
miami pride
Obviously I missed quarter 1 of Game 1 where the Heat were outscored 17-16. Apart from that the stat is right. So yes I was wrong, are you happy? But if you wanted an apology, oops I made a statistical error.
Of course I'm biased, I'm a Heat fan. But you're a Bulls fan aren't you? That makes you biased too since we knocked you out. In fact everyone's biased, since they either are a Heat fan or they hate the Heat.
In terms of whether they have "looked lucky" or not, that's how it's looked from my view. Sure the Heat were lucky they didn't blow them out. In the same way the Mavericks are lucky they didn't get blown out 20+ this game and go home 0-2.
This could definitely suck the life out of the Heat, but they've been here before. Game 1 against Chicago they were destroyed, and how did they respond? 4 straight wins. This is the Finals, the Heat are going to bounce back - if you get to this point and you don't put up a fight after you've been knocked down, you don't deserve to be here.
jimboiitmac
miami pride
Well you better go and tell the Heat locker room that then. "Hey guys, you gave up a 15 point lead if you didn't realize. It's only natural that you're demoralized, so you may as well just quit now."
Just for the record, the Mavericks gave up a 23 point lead against the Blazers in the first round. They got outscored by 20 in the 4th and 13 with 5 minutes to go. They survived that. I think the Heat will survive this. I'm not saying they will definitely win Game 3, but to suggest they are not going to respond and throw their best punch back next game is a bit silly. With the score leveled, and both teams tied this year for most road wins (28) in the regular season - this series has just started.
Well you better go and tell the Heat locker room that then. "Hey guys, you gave up a 15 point lead if you didn't realize. It's only natural that you're demoralized, so you may as well just quit now."
Just for the record, the Mavericks gave up a 23 point lead against the Blazers in the first round. They got outscored by 20 in the 4th and 13 with 5 minutes to go. They survived that. I think the Heat will survive this. I'm not saying they will definitely win Game 3, but to suggest they are not going to respond and throw their best punch back next game is a bit silly. With the score leveled, and both teams tied this year for most road wins (28) in the regular season - this series has just started.
Where did I say they were never going to come back from this? Where did I say it was all over? All I said was it COULD be.
jimboiitmac
miami pride
Then why are we even talking about this. If it smells like rice, looks like rice, tastes like rice - it is rice! (Asian analogy from as Asian
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