MJ PMG Green!

[OutlawNinja]

Browsing through the Jordan Metal today and came across this:
97 FLEER PRECIOUS METAL GEMS MICHAEL JORDAN GREEN PMG - eBay (item 230583708581 end time Mar-10-11 15:27:18 PST)

 

[Cobretti]

i wonder what it will go for haha.

Red go for about 4K no?

 

[good_old_bball]

thatsa sick card . i have a feeling it probably wont sell. not that the offers wont be rolling in, but more cos of what the seller writes where he will ony sell it if the right offer came along. so im guessing his probably looking for around $40-$50K!!! read somewhere his been offered $20,000 for it already but i dont think his interested. one lucky son of a gun thats all i know .

ps. the next year 98 PMG of michael jordan also got listed an hour ago. its the ones with the yellow background (theres no red or green version, theres only the 1 version). and they're all numbred to /50 on these. its with the aussie guy who was sellign the MJ Gold Logoman from 09-10 SP Game used (username jrsmith23, i think he also goes by the alias of jayzhouse). his got it for $23K BIN or BO. they're not the nicest of 90's inserts that years, but they do have a nice foil/rainbow light effect. for $23K though, it better be nice in the eye of the beholder lol.

 

[Cobretti]

Well personally I dont like the look of either PMG cards that much. There were better looking inserts but not as limited.

I can see however being a 90s insert out of 10 made making it attractive.

 

[shrimpynz]

Ohhh I am going to watch this one with interest. If anybody finds out what it ends up going for please let me know.

 

[A1CardsandGaming]

Its cards like this that highlight how little I must know about this hobby. I would not pay $1000 for this card let alone $20k !!! Produced by a machine with nothing personal about it besides the player on the front ! One positive about it I guess, It does include FREE post

 

[Verse1]

I want to make an offer but i know its an instant decline

 

[Jaames]

I'll never understand how people would be willing to spend so much on a non auto card.

 

[OutlawNinja]

I will certainly watch this with interest.

 

[bjs127]

Easy to understand why people would be willing to spend $20-30K on a non-auto - Jordan's rookie card is a non-auto and people have dropped $200K on that (although I must say I don't see how!).

The PMG Green can be seen as Jordan's "rookie" numbered card - and the most limited one of the two (ie the green, not the red). There are definitely only a maximum of 10 of these.......how many Jordan rookie cards are there? 10,000? 30,000?

Surely some weight must be given too to how many boxes of this stuff was made and how hard a pull it was - if i can compare it again to MJ's RC, in 1 box of 86 Fleer you would get 3 Jordan RC's on average......the 97 MJ PMG Green would have appeared about 1 in every 5,000 boxes (assuming there were only 50,000 boxes, there were probably double that) - so it was a ridiculously impossible pull!

Supply and demand mean there are probably 10,000 collectors in the world wanting this card......10,000 into 10 means crazy prices for this card are here to stay!

Where is the Doc's Delorean when you need it to go back to 1985 (or 1997 for that matter) and buy up big!!!


P.S. On a side note.....imagine there was still no such thing as the internet and eBay - how the hell would you ever find this green PMG now without the net??? It is hard enough to find with all of today's technology!!

 

[good_old_bball]

^^^^^^ great post there brad , makes a lot of perfect sense. however you forgot to note somethign when you said this:

"Jordan's rookie card is a non-auto and people have dropped $200K on that"

thats 200K for a Beckett Graded 10 Pristine.

 

[A_Iverson_I]

I'll never understand how people would be willing to spend so much on a non auto card.

Why would someone rather an auto over this? There are thousands upon thousands of different auto cards out there of him...... so what makes them so special? THIS card is special. nuf said!?

 

[Essellohbeebeewhy]

i wonder what it will go for haha.

Red go for about 4K no?

yes....it will go for between 10-12k

read somewhere his been offered $20,000 for it already but i dont think his interested.

i think if he'd seriously been offered 20k he'd have taken it, if he owns that card and he collects cards then he know what its worth and 20 is overpaying so he'd have snapped it up straight away...

Its cards like this that highlight how little I must know about this hobby. I would not pay $1000 for this card let alone $20k !!! Produced by a machine with nothing personal about it besides the player on the front ! One positive about it I guess, It does include FREE post

damn terry i though you were up there with collectors but mate that comment has blown me away.

This card is THE holy grail of pretty much ANY collector known to basketball be it set/player/pc. PMG greens are THE card to own. Logoman's mean nothing to collectors when it comes to comparing to PMG green. you wont find a better card from the 90 up until now that attracts more interest than a PMG green. the new ones that are out now are crap, those pmg's mean nothing and you can tell with the drop in price (lucky verse1!!) It doesnt have to have had jordan sign it or touch it to make it valuable, to a true collector the Jordan PMG is the Pinnacle and im not even a jordan collector but if you ask any of the top 10 jordan collectors throughout the world id bet my life 10 would say this is it (outside the BGS 10 RC of course)

oh and an edit...this card sold for a bit over 10k before christmas

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Damn nice card and I'm in the boat with the people who'd rather have this over an MJ auto!

 

[crackberry]

i would rather have this card than multiple 90s MJ autos (no offense Nick but i am sure you wouldn't take any offense since as a true sensible collector you would feel the same )

if i had this card i would rather keep it than have to sell it for less than $20k. i don't even collect MJ stuff but as some of you would know if you have a bit of quality in your collection, it is very satisfying and ironically becomes much cheaper to collect since you don't feel the urge to buy random stuff (note: i haven't reached that stage yet am i close?... no )

also holy grails are one thing - but this one actually looks really nice

 

[OutlawNinja]

The same guy also has this up for sale:
98 FLEER PRECIOUS METAL GEMS MICHAEL JORDAN 23 /50 PMG - eBay (item 230582959069 end time Mar-08-11 18:48:32 PST)
Maybe he will work out a deal for both

 

[good_old_bball]

i think if he'd seriously been offered 20k he'd have taken it, if he owns that card and he collects cards then he know what its worth and 20 is overpaying so he'd have snapped it up straight away...

bro he's receiving offers even OVER $20,000 for it, but he's currently considering and looking over what else he may have/get (he has $25,000 on the table right now). with all the hype around the PMGs, the MJ is the most wanted of the bunch (with Kobe closely behind). the seller bought it for a pretty penny, but it shows u how in just a few months the price of a card can go up considerably!! it also shows u how Panini have taken the NBA hobby down into the graves, with many collectors ditching all the new products and starting to concentrate on the 90's era cards/inserts/parallels. Panini's version of "inserts" have been nothing but trash!! they flooded the market with crap, only cos they had received feedback from collectors when they were starting out that us collectors wanted to see the "90's kind of inserts" back in this hobby.

damn terry i though you were up there with collectors but mate that comment has blown me away.

lol lol, leave terry alone, his been living under a rock for the last 13 years dont you know that??! lmao, just messing with ya tez

 

[crackberry]

bro he's receiving offers even OVER $20,000 for it, but he's currently considering and looking over what else he may have/get (he has $25,000 on the table right now). with all the hype around the PMGs, the MJ is the most wanted of the bunch (with Kobe closely behind). the seller bought it for a pretty penny, but it shows u how in just a few months the price of a card can go up considerably!! it also shows u how Panini have taken the NBA hobby down into the graves, with many collectors ditching all the new products and starting to concentrate on the 90's era cards/inserts/parallels. Panini's version of "inserts" have been nothing but trash!! they flooded the market with crap, only cos they had received feedback from collectors when they were starting out that us collectors wanted to see the "90's kind of inserts" back in this hobby.


lol lol, leave terry alone, his been living under a rock for the last 13 years dont you know that??! lmao, just messing with ya tez

you're not wrong there steve. not just the 90s. all cards from the UD sets i am building have become very expensive (lowest would be twice as much as what they were only 6 months ago) time to sell?

 

[lukesicari]

Easy to understand why people would be willing to spend $20-30K on a non-auto - Jordan's rookie card is a non-auto and people have dropped $200K on that (although I must say I don't see how!).

The PMG Green can be seen as Jordan's "rookie" numbered card - and the most limited one of the two (ie the green, not the red). There are definitely only a maximum of 10 of these.......how many Jordan rookie cards are there? 10,000? 30,000?

Surely some weight must be given too to how many boxes of this stuff was made and how hard a pull it was - if i can compare it again to MJ's RC, in 1 box of 86 Fleer you would get 3 Jordan RC's on average......the 97 MJ PMG Green would have appeared about 1 in every 5,000 boxes (assuming there were only 50,000 boxes, there were probably double that) - so it was a ridiculously impossible pull!

Supply and demand mean there are probably 10,000 collectors in the world wanting this card......10,000 into 10 means crazy prices for this card are here to stay!

Where is the Doc's Delorean when you need it to go back to 1985 (or 1997 for that matter) and buy up big!!!


P.S. On a side note.....imagine there was still no such thing as the internet and eBay - how the hell would you ever find this green PMG now without the net??? It is hard enough to find with all of today's technology!!

Have to agree mate...

---------- Post added 13-02-2011 at 04:41 PM ----------

Awesome card...

 

[Cobretti]

Well what I love about this card is that it is FLEER.

One of the cheaper product lines and has the most desired insert.