Underbelly - anyone watching?
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I only have a DVD thanks anyway.
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Yep... has the time counter on the bottom.... & there is no background or intro music....
& the version that I watched, the mobile fone rings were hella loud... scared the crap out of me the first time around.....
Yep, that's them. I think those ones we've seen are actually prior to being edited for telly.
Have you noticed some of the narating is different person, and the mobile phones that ring are always the same tone (and hella loud too!).
Got 1 more episode to watch today.
Oh, and yeah, I got it wrong about Carl Williams, we were doing some light reading on them all last night. Turns out that he's admitted to killing people that Underbelly shows someone else killing.....
This is a good read
April 28, 2007 12:00am
GANG WAR: CRIME boss Carl Williams stepped into the witness box yesterday to lift the lid on his role in Melbourne's deadly underworld war.
The confessed murderer police say is one of the country's worst killers has spoken for the first time about a brutal attack almost eight years ago that sent drug rivalries spinning into a series of bloody paybacks that cost 27 lives.
The Broadmeadows father of one faces a life sentence but is fighting for a minimum term and the hope of freedom one day for ordering three men murdered.
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Summary justice: Roberta Williams goes off
Special report: Melbourne's underworld
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In a day of courtroom drama Williams, 36, explained the roots of his vendetta against the rival Moran clan.
Williams gave evidence in the Supreme Court that:
JASON Moran was the mystery gunman who shot him in the stomach in 1999, sparking the bitter feud between his camp and the Morans.
HE had been told by the Morans that corrupt police were protecting their illicit activities and they were dealing amphetamines with disgraced drug squad detective Wayne Strawhorn.
HIS family had been warned by the Morans it was a case of "who gets who first".
HE turned to crack cocaine, alcohol and sleeping pills at the height of the underworld war.
PRISON life was "like groundhog day" and he wished the violence had never happened.
Williams has confessed to the murder of Jason Moran, who was killed with bodyguard Pat Barbaro at a children's football clinic in June 2003, saying he left the details of the execution to those he asked to carry it out.
"In a perfect world it would be to kill him elsewhere," Williams said when asked if he knew the murder was to take place in front of children.
Justice Betty King told him a perfect world would be one in which Moran was not killed at all.
Williams has also admitted arranging the murder of gang patriarch Lewis Moran as part of his revenge on the family. He was shot dead as he drank at the Brunswick Club in 2004.
Moran widow Judy -- who lost her husband and both sons in the gangland war -- told the court Williams' crimes had broken her heart.
Mark Moran was shot dead in 2000 and Williams was due to stand trial for the crime, but the charge was dropped when he pleaded guilty to other murders last month.
Williams revealed in his evidence his falling-out with the Morans began when he was hit over the head with a baton by the half-brothers then shot in the stomach by Jason Moran.
He said Jason Moran told him, "Don't f--- with us. Look what we done to Alphonse (Gangitano)" – referring to the murder of the standover man in 1998.
"We are working with the police. We have virtually got a licence to do anything," Moran allegedly told him.
Williams refused to co-operate when police questioned him about the wounding. He claims Jason Moran called him in hospital as he recuperated and told him: "Next time you won't be so lucky."
He said he was using crack cocaine and became paranoid about when he would "get popped".
Williams told the court he feared for his family's safety and both his wife and his father had been warned that he would be killed.
"Jason told him (his father George Williams) to pass on to his son that it's who gets who first," Williams said.
Prosecutor Geoff Horgan, SC, told the court police did not accept anything other than vengeance for the earlier shooting was behind his desire to wipe out the Morans.
The convicted drug trafficker – who is serving at least 21 years' jail for the 2003 murder of hotdog vendor Michael Marshall – claims he didn't pay for the killings he admits to ordering.
His other victims include drug dealer Mark Mallia, 37, whose body was found in a burning wheelie bin in Sunshine in August 2003.
The court heard Mallia had been strangled after being lured to a meeting, bound and gagged then possibly tortured with a soldering iron.
The Herald Sun and other media have asked for permission to record the sentence when it is handed down so it can be broadcast.
Justice King will rule on the application at a later date.
The plea hearing is due to continue on Monday.
April 28, 2007 12:00am
GANG WAR: CRIME boss Carl Williams stepped into the witness box yesterday to lift the lid on his role in Melbourne's deadly underworld war.
The confessed murderer police say is one of the country's worst killers has spoken for the first time about a brutal attack almost eight years ago that sent drug rivalries spinning into a series of bloody paybacks that cost 27 lives.
The Broadmeadows father of one faces a life sentence but is fighting for a minimum term and the hope of freedom one day for ordering three men murdered.
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Summary justice: Roberta Williams goes off
Special report: Melbourne's underworld
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In a day of courtroom drama Williams, 36, explained the roots of his vendetta against the rival Moran clan.
Williams gave evidence in the Supreme Court that:
JASON Moran was the mystery gunman who shot him in the stomach in 1999, sparking the bitter feud between his camp and the Morans.
HE had been told by the Morans that corrupt police were protecting their illicit activities and they were dealing amphetamines with disgraced drug squad detective Wayne Strawhorn.
HIS family had been warned by the Morans it was a case of "who gets who first".
HE turned to crack cocaine, alcohol and sleeping pills at the height of the underworld war.
PRISON life was "like groundhog day" and he wished the violence had never happened.
Williams has confessed to the murder of Jason Moran, who was killed with bodyguard Pat Barbaro at a children's football clinic in June 2003, saying he left the details of the execution to those he asked to carry it out.
"In a perfect world it would be to kill him elsewhere," Williams said when asked if he knew the murder was to take place in front of children.
Justice Betty King told him a perfect world would be one in which Moran was not killed at all.
Williams has also admitted arranging the murder of gang patriarch Lewis Moran as part of his revenge on the family. He was shot dead as he drank at the Brunswick Club in 2004.
Moran widow Judy -- who lost her husband and both sons in the gangland war -- told the court Williams' crimes had broken her heart.
Mark Moran was shot dead in 2000 and Williams was due to stand trial for the crime, but the charge was dropped when he pleaded guilty to other murders last month.
Williams revealed in his evidence his falling-out with the Morans began when he was hit over the head with a baton by the half-brothers then shot in the stomach by Jason Moran.
He said Jason Moran told him, "Don't f--- with us. Look what we done to Alphonse (Gangitano)" – referring to the murder of the standover man in 1998.
"We are working with the police. We have virtually got a licence to do anything," Moran allegedly told him.
Williams refused to co-operate when police questioned him about the wounding. He claims Jason Moran called him in hospital as he recuperated and told him: "Next time you won't be so lucky."
He said he was using crack cocaine and became paranoid about when he would "get popped".
Williams told the court he feared for his family's safety and both his wife and his father had been warned that he would be killed.
"Jason told him (his father George Williams) to pass on to his son that it's who gets who first," Williams said.
Prosecutor Geoff Horgan, SC, told the court police did not accept anything other than vengeance for the earlier shooting was behind his desire to wipe out the Morans.
The convicted drug trafficker – who is serving at least 21 years' jail for the 2003 murder of hotdog vendor Michael Marshall – claims he didn't pay for the killings he admits to ordering.
His other victims include drug dealer Mark Mallia, 37, whose body was found in a burning wheelie bin in Sunshine in August 2003.
The court heard Mallia had been strangled after being lured to a meeting, bound and gagged then possibly tortured with a soldering iron.
The Herald Sun and other media have asked for permission to record the sentence when it is handed down so it can be broadcast.
Justice King will rule on the application at a later date.
The plea hearing is due to continue on Monday.
i think the other crucial issue is that the show has no disclaimer saying some contents are fictional. ALOT of it is not based upon facts, but merely what people consider to be the truth.
of course it could be the truth, but alot of those killings have never been proven in court as to who did it. roberta williams has also come out and said nothing ever happened with Benji as he was more like a brother
of course it could be the truth, but alot of those killings have never been proven in court as to who did it. roberta williams has also come out and said nothing ever happened with Benji as he was more like a brother
