Predictors Gold Sets
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BenjiRaiders
OzCardTrader
These predictor sets are just getting even weirder now. Next you'll find out there made from special cardboard that is highly biodegradable in oxygen and they'll just disappear in 6 monthsGot my set today #14
Found this a bit strange instead of putting official Sticker on the cards they just put them on a team bag and clear case.
Seriously why couldn't they sticker the cards? They have no problem using signature stickers now for premier sets so why is the hologram so hard!
Can't wait for next year's release already. Bet there will be some awesome set like an out of 5 made from recycled toilet paper with the signature STICKER signed by the assistant to the player and the hologram to know it's authentic will be stuck on the outside of the pack.
Cheers esp, you bloody legends
Well 2017 was my first year of collecting cards, I spent thousands on NRL Traders and loved the "Gold" look to the predictors, really are nice.
Every week, for about 10 weeks would buy about $100-$150 in cards from "Woollies" as foe my 4 boys under 11, myself and wife we all would get home, plonk the packs in front of each other than "pick a packet" (to divie out)
I would buy any predictor off the boys, so ended up with a few that way, then found out about this "Gold set" and was excited and thought why not get something of which I thought special.
So all I'll say is instead of buying packs now, I may just next year drop $50 or so (by 4 kids) on a completed common set of folders.
Cheaper, less hassle and if I could do a "Giving them a finger" picture as well I would!!!
It's still not to late for "ESP" to fix/rectify this IMO, they need to really do something in form of compensation, to make it special/joyus for us collectors, as why would anyone spend that type of money in the future, to not get something special???
Maybe we just need to return and refuse to accept these, need to be signed like some people thought would happen
Every week, for about 10 weeks would buy about $100-$150 in cards from "Woollies" as foe my 4 boys under 11, myself and wife we all would get home, plonk the packs in front of each other than "pick a packet" (to divie out)
I would buy any predictor off the boys, so ended up with a few that way, then found out about this "Gold set" and was excited and thought why not get something of which I thought special.
So all I'll say is instead of buying packs now, I may just next year drop $50 or so (by 4 kids) on a completed common set of folders.
Cheaper, less hassle and if I could do a "Giving them a finger" picture as well I would!!!
It's still not to late for "ESP" to fix/rectify this IMO, they need to really do something in form of compensation, to make it special/joyus for us collectors, as why would anyone spend that type of money in the future, to not get something special???
Maybe we just need to return and refuse to accept these, need to be signed like some people thought would happen
I feel the disappointment for everyone who chased this subset, I was close to doing so myself until we worked out early on that Predictors were an after thought and they had no idea about what it the redemption actually was and then finally advised Premiers Only nothing for your other 15 hard chased predictors, apart from a hole in them!!
It's an easy fix and there are multiple options but IMO go back to a "Top Try Scorer" 16 Club Teams set or similiar with the added Premiers mini set redemption seed them 1 in 2 boxes. This makes it very collectible and keeps value in buying boxes long after the release frenzy has ended. Every team collector will need their clubs card giving value to breaking up a set.
Then they could offer a limited 1/20 Gold set bonus of every "Top Try Scorer" by seeding in 1 per case a "Gold Predictor". I see this working something like so, if in my 16 predictors if I have a "Gold Predictor" of the Cowboys and Dragons for example as well as my 14 normal predictors I get a Gold Cowboys and Dragons Gold Parallel as a bonus. This IMO stimulates the release for longevity.
Anyway I hope Santa brings us a change to what it currently is.
Cheers
Ross
It's an easy fix and there are multiple options but IMO go back to a "Top Try Scorer" 16 Club Teams set or similiar with the added Premiers mini set redemption seed them 1 in 2 boxes. This makes it very collectible and keeps value in buying boxes long after the release frenzy has ended. Every team collector will need their clubs card giving value to breaking up a set.
Then they could offer a limited 1/20 Gold set bonus of every "Top Try Scorer" by seeding in 1 per case a "Gold Predictor". I see this working something like so, if in my 16 predictors if I have a "Gold Predictor" of the Cowboys and Dragons for example as well as my 14 normal predictors I get a Gold Cowboys and Dragons Gold Parallel as a bonus. This IMO stimulates the release for longevity.
Anyway I hope Santa brings us a change to what it currently is.
Cheers
Ross
Wow.. reading all these posts is just so frustrating.
I thought these cards would be soooo much better, thinking about how much Gold foil was on the front of the predictor, made me feel it was going to be very Gold and "only 20" as it was to be a very special set. If that's the companies idea of limited and special... please, that's a very very average set. Seems its not even good enough for a sticker ha ha ha .
I am certain that all the predictors need to be worth something, I wish they had a "Great Moment" for each team like the 2014 Traders insert, this makes the other teams well worth collecting.
Team collectors will be super happy to go for it, meaning higher value across the board.
I thought these cards would be soooo much better, thinking about how much Gold foil was on the front of the predictor, made me feel it was going to be very Gold and "only 20" as it was to be a very special set. If that's the companies idea of limited and special... please, that's a very very average set. Seems its not even good enough for a sticker ha ha ha .
I am certain that all the predictors need to be worth something, I wish they had a "Great Moment" for each team like the 2014 Traders insert, this makes the other teams well worth collecting.
Team collectors will be super happy to go for it, meaning higher value across the board.
saintsforever
OzCardTrader
Rob, I will go with 200 max, maybe a bit more with each predictor low numbered.
Does anyone want to go lower, I hear on some face book sights they try to go lower than average.
bigrob2307
OzCardTrader
id buy for $200, bit unders but if thats whats youre willing to part witth the set for...
Good luck if anyone will part with them for $200 , especially before we have given ESP the right of reply . Hold on to em lads till we hear back I say !!Add up how much in total the 20 set owners have spent on traders products this year . 20 good customers I doubt they would want to lose . I get probably 5 went to dealers , so atleast 15 big customers ?? Not a smart business move by any means ??? Just my thought
Ill show you what they can do c-town style lol
I had mine for sale at a high price which obviously nobody was interested at. I was so pissed off I just listed them straight away. The listing here, on fb and feebay got.pulled for the exact reasons above. Hold on to them fellas until TLA/ESP respond properly to our complaints about these sets.
I'm not sure why TLA will feel the need to do anything here?
If you had a winning predictor, you got your numbered set if you redeemed the card which means they fulfilled their obligations.
The Gold Set was an additional last minute bonus idea to help push more sales (getting people to buy more product to chase this limited set). Those first 20 that did got their sets so they have done what was promised.
While people may have spent lots of money chasing all 16 predictors and some people may feel underwhelmed at the minimal difference between the Gold Set and the Normal Predictor set but TLA have done everything that they have promised and I don't see why they would need to compensate anyone for anything further?
That's my (probably unpopular) take on it anyway.
Cheers
Matt
If you had a winning predictor, you got your numbered set if you redeemed the card which means they fulfilled their obligations.
The Gold Set was an additional last minute bonus idea to help push more sales (getting people to buy more product to chase this limited set). Those first 20 that did got their sets so they have done what was promised.
While people may have spent lots of money chasing all 16 predictors and some people may feel underwhelmed at the minimal difference between the Gold Set and the Normal Predictor set but TLA have done everything that they have promised and I don't see why they would need to compensate anyone for anything further?
That's my (probably unpopular) take on it anyway.
Cheers
Matt
Yep thats probably the way TLA will look at it too. The trouble is though there was a strong implication on their part that the /20 would be a special product both by the quality of the redemption card and the motivation provided by TLA to chase all 16 quickly to be able to be one of the first 20 to redeem the set to earn a limited /20 set. So what you are saying is probably technically correct, TLA still had an obligation to meet expectation of a certain level of product & by extension, exclusivity, which has not been met.
@Matt26 You are right and I do agree with you. TLA has fulfilled their obligations. There probably is nothing more they should do or need to do from now however the product in which they released /20 is substandard in my opinion.
You say they did this to push more sales as a little bonus to us collectors I am assuming. That they achieved as a lot of us bought packs and traded etc to get these and the standard is just not there for a limited product.
They got what they wanted and we get a substandard product not near in value as to what was spent. The 16 predictors we sent in are 100 times better than what was received.
I guess if you asked anyone here on this forum or any others what they were expecting and a lot would say not what we got.
Customer service is also a big thing in my books and that was not met. Emails never responded to. I asked for tracking etc and nothing. I feel as tho I spend a lot of money on their products and to get what I received (packed poorly, hologram sticker on a team bag and a case) is pretty poor.
Just my 2 cents mate and felt a need the vent. I love my footy cards but Im not sure on my collecting future to be honest.
Cheers
Shaun
You say they did this to push more sales as a little bonus to us collectors I am assuming. That they achieved as a lot of us bought packs and traded etc to get these and the standard is just not there for a limited product.
They got what they wanted and we get a substandard product not near in value as to what was spent. The 16 predictors we sent in are 100 times better than what was received.
I guess if you asked anyone here on this forum or any others what they were expecting and a lot would say not what we got.
Customer service is also a big thing in my books and that was not met. Emails never responded to. I asked for tracking etc and nothing. I feel as tho I spend a lot of money on their products and to get what I received (packed poorly, hologram sticker on a team bag and a case) is pretty poor.
Just my 2 cents mate and felt a need the vent. I love my footy cards but Im not sure on my collecting future to be honest.
Cheers
Shaun
I can completely understand the frustration and I think they could have done a bit more in terms of the limited set.....to make them have more of a differentiation between the standard predictor set and the Gold set. Printed on a nice foil board or even refactor type stock would have made the cards pop and given an appearance of greater value.
Having someone on board at TLA who is a collector would certainly help iron out a lot of these things.
In terms of customer service, there is no excuse here....you should get a response.....going those extra miles would certainly be in their best interests in building a loyal customer base.
The one point I will make.... TLA cant really control prices on the secondary market (they could to a degree by not selling to re-sellers who dump stock on eBay 2 days after release - that's another story)....but I don't think its up to them to compensate people to the same value that they would have spent on getting all 16 cards. If you spent $10 a card or $200 a card all they have to do is provide what was promised which they did.
If you spent $10 a card to get all 16....i think the value would seem great in getting a set numbered to #20.
However if you were paying hundreds per predictor then I can see how people would believe that the perceived value isn't there.
Could they have made the cards look a little more special .....probably....but I think they have delivered what was promised.
Cheers
Matt
Battingticks84
OzCardTrader
After considering it early on, I didn’t chase this set and it’s interesting reading everyone’s take on it.
I would be very disappointed if this is what I received for the outlay. It’s been mentioned above a number of times about the perceived value of the original predictors and I get that a card is only worth what someone is willing to pay. However, the rarity of the predictors was a huge indicator in resale price, so for this reason alone, TLA should have made a much nicer set.
As Matt said, they did this to boost sales and have met their end of the deal. Fair enough. But surely you wouldn’t want to annoy some of your biggest customers to the extent where they are considering giving up collecting or the more likely scenario of not bothering to chase sets like this in the future. Therefore, placing a huge reduction on future sales. It’s not smart business. Seeing TLA operate like this, they’ve made my mind up as to whether I would chase a set like this in future - I wouldn’t.
I would also say that despite being underwhelming, if I paid that much for the predictors, I wouldn’t be looking to resell. This is mainly because I don’t see the point in paying that much money only to try to resell something. I don’t think anyone was ever going to get what they paid for this set, but people looking to offload them for ‘unders’ will devalue them really quickly. Look at the damage day trader does on eBay.
Good luck to those who got a set. I hope you get some kind of restitution.
I would be very disappointed if this is what I received for the outlay. It’s been mentioned above a number of times about the perceived value of the original predictors and I get that a card is only worth what someone is willing to pay. However, the rarity of the predictors was a huge indicator in resale price, so for this reason alone, TLA should have made a much nicer set.
As Matt said, they did this to boost sales and have met their end of the deal. Fair enough. But surely you wouldn’t want to annoy some of your biggest customers to the extent where they are considering giving up collecting or the more likely scenario of not bothering to chase sets like this in the future. Therefore, placing a huge reduction on future sales. It’s not smart business. Seeing TLA operate like this, they’ve made my mind up as to whether I would chase a set like this in future - I wouldn’t.
I would also say that despite being underwhelming, if I paid that much for the predictors, I wouldn’t be looking to resell. This is mainly because I don’t see the point in paying that much money only to try to resell something. I don’t think anyone was ever going to get what they paid for this set, but people looking to offload them for ‘unders’ will devalue them really quickly. Look at the damage day trader does on eBay.
Good luck to those who got a set. I hope you get some kind of restitution.
