The Official 2017 TLA Elite NRL Thread (Sell Sheet Page 10, 1/1 Preview Page 17)

I still think ESP should do numbered to either 50,75 or 100 replicas of the 1/1 cards so team collectors can still have that same style card in their sets.
Have any of this years 1/1's been busted yet? Did all 4 get busted last year?
 
Just a bump up
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were can i find the link to the colour chart for the 2017 elite redemption patches.i seen it the other day,but can,t find it now.
 
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Something I have noticed of late with this release
1. The re sale of the signature cards and other insets . The prices of these cards are quite low for a release that is less than a month old. Last years release had signature card at $200-300, now lucky to get $120 onwards
2. Value for box. With the re sale value of the sig or hit and the rest of the cards. It make the box not worth it.

I have noticed that the prices have been dropped significantly by main eBay sellers, and may due to esp prefer seller.

Just my observations . What does Everyone else think?
 
Something I have noticed of late with this release
1. The re sale of the signature cards and other insets . The prices of these cards are quite low for a release that is less than a month old. Last years release had signature card at $200-300, now lucky to get $120 onwards
2. Value for box. With the re sale value of the sig or hit and the rest of the cards. It make the box not worth it.

I have noticed that the prices have been dropped significantly by main eBay sellers, and may due to esp prefer seller.

Just my observations . What does Everyone else think?

You are quite correct, ESP prices in general don't seem to hold value but particularly Elite. Aside from the jersey patch signatures I don't think I have seen an Elite League Sensation or Young Gun start at $200-$300 (maybe Cam Smith from 2014 was the exception and a hoarder was involved).

It is really sad to see because some the signature cards look great with excellent choices as the signers. The huge amount of stock busted by Day Trader and a couple of other big sellers is certainly a contributing factor as is the lack of master collectors still in the game. This leaves so many more cards on the secondary market for longer.

The other equally disappointing aspect is your average collector bust boxes with no intention of holding anything and then flip the cards onto the secondary market for nothing or drop them in razzes. The trading aspect of the hobby is suffering significantly because of this, lots of collectors seem to be in the game to make their money back or if they are lucky a profit.

The collation of inserts is better this year, hardly seems to have been a dud box but putting a Mojo and redemption in the same box is nuts! No way should there be two high end hits like that in one box, really makes buying boxes risky. A collector should never expect to make money from a box, that is a dealers job!
 
You are quite correct, ESP prices in general don't seem to hold value but particularly Elite. Aside from the jersey patch signatures I don't think I have seen an Elite League Sensation or Young Gun start at $200-$300 (maybe Cam Smith from 2014 was the exception and a hoarder was involved).

It is really sad to see because some the signature cards look great with excellent choices as the signers. The huge amount of stock busted by Day Trader and a couple of other big sellers is certainly a contributing factor as is the lack of master collectors still in the game. This leaves so many more cards on the secondary market for longer.

The other equally disappointing aspect is your average collector bust boxes with no intention of holding anything and then flip the cards onto the secondary market for nothing or drop them in razzes. The trading aspect of the hobby is suffering significantly because of this, lots of collectors seem to be in the game to make their money back or if they are lucky a profit.

The collation of inserts is better this year, hardly seems to have been a dud box but putting a Mojo and redemption in the same box is nuts! No way should there be two high end hits like that in one box, really makes buying boxes risky. A collector should never expect to make money from a box, that is a dealers job!
Totally agree, given some of the quality of players that have signed over the last few year.
In regards to the boxes, it's great when you on the receiving end of a loaded box but horrible when not...
I don't know if anyone else seen, but someone had a Double Header Storm for sale at $118 buy Now on eBay! WTF
I went to buy it as that is nuts, it went before I could put payment through.
It hurts as people low prices on eBay to sell there's first and before you know it the price has been driven heaps.
 
You are quite correct, ESP prices in general don't seem to hold value but particularly Elite. Aside from the jersey patch signatures I don't think I have seen an Elite League Sensation or Young Gun start at $200-$300 (maybe Cam Smith from 2014 was the exception and a hoarder was involved).

It is really sad to see because some the signature cards look great with excellent choices as the signers. The huge amount of stock busted by Day Trader and a couple of other big sellers is certainly a contributing factor as is the lack of master collectors still in the game. This leaves so many more cards on the secondary market for longer.

The other equally disappointing aspect is your average collector bust boxes with no intention of holding anything and then flip the cards onto the secondary market for nothing or drop them in razzes. The trading aspect of the hobby is suffering significantly because of this, lots of collectors seem to be in the game to make their money back or if they are lucky a profit.

The collation of inserts is better this year, hardly seems to have been a dud box but putting a Mojo and redemption in the same box is nuts! No way should there be two high end hits like that in one box, really makes buying boxes risky. A collector should never expect to make money from a box, that is a dealers job!
I try to see value for money (helps me spend $$ when I explain it to missus lol) I usually get a few boxes and but this year I got a case to be able to trade to get everything to complete my set.
 
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