End of season awards

[nichj99]

1. Jeremy Lin is actually doing alright this year, I think he'd be a starter I fake ba wasn't in Charlotte.
2. He is becoming a more consistent player who has improved a lot from previous years.
In the few games of his I've seen, he has been a dominant beast on court, who was killing opposition centers.

I'm not saying Jeremy Lin isn't a good player, both him and Zaza are not All Star Calibre starters plain and simple.

 

[drob50]

MVP - Curry
DPOY - Kawhi
ROY - KAT
MIP - McCollum
6th man - Jamal Crawford

All NBA
Curry
Westbrook
Lebron
Kawhi
Cousins

 

[drob50]

From what I see, he's a black hole offensively (i.e., why the thunder are so much worse behind the arc and fail to get to the line as often) as the ball doesn't come out - see his below average assist numbers for a big man. On the other side he's a liability defensively. The only part of his game I believe is good is his rebounding. Yes he puts up big numbers, but does it help them win? Probably not. Kevin Martin is another guy like this - has always had big games but rarely has it helped his team win over the years.

You are drunk mate

Kanter has been huge for OKC this year.

Not sure if you noticed, but Okcs entire offensive system is a black hole. Most times Kanter gets the ball it is time to shoot coz WB and Durant have chewed up 20 seconds of the clock.

Pretty sure one of Kanters "effective use" or PER stats is top 10 in the league as well.
OKC play him alongside Ibaka most of the time to adjust for his defense as well

 

[exzibit3]

Kanter with 33/20 in a loss to Portland.. Empty stats?

 

[drobfan8]

Kanter with 33/20 in a loss to Portland.. Empty stats?

33/20 and they lost? That kinda of adds to the empty stats case.

I think Kanter is solid and you take the good with the bad.

 

[drob50]

Now, consider that he plays a lot of his minutes against oppositions second units as opposed to starting units like he did in Utah - I fail to see how he warrants any consideration for 6th man (a role that is required to make a team better)

EVERY player that is being discussed for 6th man is coming off the bench. That is the point of the award. It is hardly fair to hold that against Kanter when it applies to all 6th man candidates.

 

[drob50]

33/20 and they lost? That kinda of adds to the empty stats case.

I think Kanter is solid and you take the good with the bad.

So every big stat line that comes in a loss is empty stats? Not sure that makes sense.

You want to see an empty stat, check out the leader in FG%. Never takes a shot outside 3ft yet they don't exclude them from the FG stats

 

[drobfan8]

So every big stat line that comes in a loss is empty stats? Not sure that makes sense.

You want to see an empty stat, check out the leader in FG%. Never takes a shot outside 3ft yet they don't exclude them from the FG stats

I'm not sure I said that. We're just talking about Kanter here right?

He gets mins in junk time right? They're empty stats.

you should be worried about getting that $20 ready for me for believing in the Rockets. Ha ha

 

[drobfan8]

And why would someone be penalized for taking field goals??? Doesn't matter if they're all dunks. Adam you're losing the plot man.

 

[exzibit3]

33/20 and they lost? That kinda of adds to the empty stats case.

I think Kanter is solid and you take the good with the bad.

The Thunder are like a 55 win team; I don't think you can apply that blanket statement of empty stats to a winning team on every loss they have. To me, you can only use that for a player putting up numbers on a team like the Sixers who aren't even competitive so they are getting them in garbage minutes. Kanter to me is a solid contributor off the bench on a solid team.

 

[drobfan8]

The Thunder are like a 55 win team; I don't think you can apply that blanket statement of empty stats to a winning team on every loss they have. To me, you can only use that for a player putting up numbers on a team like the Sixers who aren't even competitive so they are getting them in garbage minutes. Kanter to me is a solid contributor off the bench on a solid team.

And look I agree, Kanter may even get it, who knows. But posting that he got 33/20 in a loss really doesn't prove your point.

if a team gets 33/20 from someone off the bench, surely you're expecting a win right?

 

[exzibit3]

And look I agree, Kanter may even get it, who knows. But posting that he got 33/20 in a loss really doesn't prove your point.

if a team gets 33/20 from someone off the bench, surely you're expecting a win right?

You might anticipate a win IF their starters were playing but Russ, KD and Ibaka had the night off. Anyway, the point was more that he had a monster game, unfortunately in a loss.

 

[warriors_man]

MVP - Curry
DPOY - Kawhi
ROY - KAT
MIP - McCollum
6th Man - Barton (Kanter close behind)

All NBA First Team

G - Curry
G - Westbrook
F - Kawhi
F - LeBron
C - Cousins

All NBA Second Team

G - Lillard
G - Klay
F - Durant
F - Draymond
C - Drummond

All NBA Third Team

G - Isiah Thomas
G - CP3
F - Batum
F - LaMarcus
C - DeAndre

All-Rookie First Team

G - D'Angelo Russell
G - Devin Booker
F - Porzingis
F - Myles Turner
C - KAT

All-Rookie Second Team

G - Mudiay
G - Stanley Johnson
F - Hezonja
F - Okafor
C - WCS

 

[drob50]

I'm not sure I said that. We're just talking about Kanter here right?

He gets mins in junk time right? They're empty stats.

you should be worried about getting that $20 ready for me for believing in the Rockets. Ha ha

Of course you didn't say that... You implied it by saying that it was empty because the game was a loss. Garbage time is different. I didn't watch today, but I saw the score line a couple of time and it looked like OKC fought back to a 5 point margins

And yeah, I know your $20 is practically payable! lol
Now I'm just hoping Houston get 8th

And why would someone be penalized for taking field goals??? Doesn't matter if they're all dunks. Adam you're losing the plot man.

Of course it matters. FG% is an accuracy stat. If you only dunk, it should be 100% or you have failed in life.
It takes away from people like JJ reddick, Gordon Hayward and Kawhi you actually take mid range jumpers.

I would love to see Deandres season long shot chart LOL

 

[drobfan8]

Of course you didn't say that... You implied it by saying that it was empty because the game was a loss. Garbage time is different. I didn't watch today, but I saw the score line a couple of time and it looked like OKC fought back to a 5 point margins

And yeah, I know your $20 is practically payable! lol
Now I'm just hoping Houston get 8th

Of course it matters. FG% is an accuracy stat. If you only dunk, it should be 100% or you have failed in life.
It takes away from people like JJ reddick, Gordon Hayward and Kawhi you actually take mid range jumpers.

I would love to see Deandres season long shot chart LOL

Ha ha, why do you want HOU to even get 8th? The less I see of Harden the better.

 

[thePACisback]

If the MIP award is what Josh perceives it to be, than I reckon my prediction (Reggie Jackson) is spot on. He has made this a team that will almost certainly play in the playoffs with the help of Andre, and the Pistons have a bright future ahead of them.

 

[drobfan8]

If the MIP award is what Josh perceives it to be, than I reckon my prediction (Reggie Jackson) is spot on. He has made this a team that will almost certainly play in the playoffs with the help of Andre, and the Pistons have a bright future ahead of them.

A solid pick for sure.

I think Kemba Walker might be climbing up the charts also.
It seems there's a few good candidates.

 

[drob50]

Ha ha, why do you want HOU to even get 8th? The less I see of Harden the better.

A wildcard chance to upset the Warriors. No chance the Jazz of Mavs are going to

I can't stand Harden, so it feels odd rooting for them.

 

[drobfan8]

A wildcard chance to upset the Warriors. No chance the Jazz of Mavs are going to

I can't stand Harden, so it feels odd rooting for them.

Right, interesting. I think the Jazz can be a tough out.

But would like to see anybody take GS down. Tall poppy syndrome here for sure.

 

[exzibit3]

Houston hasn't got a hope in heck to upset the Dubs in the playoffs, they're just that crap. I reckon Dwight is out of there as soon as he is able to.