2003 SELECT SCANLENS RETRO CARDS

Here is a copy of Selects statement Re: 2006 Legends Die Cut.


22 September 2014
2006 NRL INVINCIBLE LEGEND DIE CARDS
Dear Collectors,

It has been brought to our attention recently that a full set (15 cards) of 2006 NRL Invincible Legend Die cut ( all bears #13/175) has circulated in the market, and in the meantime, a number of other collectors, also hold the 013 die cut legend card from the same set. Select Australia is obligated to inform collectors that :

1. Select has been producing collector cards for the Australian market for over 20 years, and prides itself on the integrity of its products.

2. Select Australia has only ever released 1 card each of any individually numbered limited edition subset within all the trading card production overseen by Select Australia.

3. Select, as part of its contractual arrangements at the time with the NRL, gave each participating player a complete fully framed set of unnumbered cards for their personal use - hopefully to be hanging in their memorabilia room. Also a number of unnumbered sets were given to the NRL for their archive collections.

4. Since around 2011 Select began printing the word "PLAYER" on the reverse of any player framed sets, as we did find players who were breaking the framed sets up. We haven't heard any response over the past few years of any problems.

5. Based on the limited information, Select Australia can only provide a rough analysis and relevant information.



As we know, the odds of finding on Legend Die Cut card is 1:2 boxes. In the most perfect situation, getting a mixed number full set of 15 Legend Die Cut cards requires minimum 30 boxes of cards. based on such an extreme optimistic event, the chance of receiving all 15 Die Cut cards with the same number is 1-175 power 14 - almost impossible. Of course, by opening the whole production run ( 2 boxes x 15 x 175), same number die cuts will be guaranteed but this won't happen practically as most of those boxes were sold across Australia and there are still some factory cases in retailers hands.

If this number 13 set were built upon buying individual cards from the market, it requires the co-existences of 3 conditions:

All #13 of those Legend Cards were out of packs already

All those owners of the #13 legend cards are willing to sell this particular card AND

the #13 set collector would have to be the exclusive buyer - it is extremely unlikely.



Based on the basic analysis above, Select Australia naturally questions the ligitimacy of the #13 same number legend die cut set. One of the many possibilities is that somebody gets the opportunity to access one set of unnumbered Legend Die Cut cards and numbered the set or part of the set unlawfully.

Regardless how this #13 same number Legend Die Cut card set circulated in the collectors market, Select Australia strongly condemns any activity that is unlawful and damaging the integrity of the trading card business. Select Australia regards it as paramount and will closely monitor the market. Select Australia also urges all collectors to share your responsibility of protecting the integrity of our industry.



6. In addition to the above, Select holds a small quantity of unnumbered sets to be used as replacement cards should a numbered card be damaged in the packing process. A blank card is then sent away to a specialised printer who will renumber the blank card with the number of the damaged card and the damaged card is then destroyed. This process takes 2-6 weeks depending on the amount of cards that are required to be numbered at the time of receipt of the damaged card.



Yours sincerley,







Grant Copley

Managing Director

Select Australia Pty Ltd

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YOU'RE A GENIUS!!...

Select put it on the internet - Must be gospel!!
(Not like they'd be worried of collectors talking to ruin the integrity of their systems or anything??)
Let me quote a couple of lines from this exact statement.

"Select holds a small quantity of unnumbered sets to be used as replacement cards"
"Regardless how this #13 same number Legend Die Cut card set circulated in the collectors market"

As Select says (Generally, I couldn't be bothered to read it all again properly)
They consider it a near impossibility that "A COLLECTOR" could find so many 13's of this set and get them together.
I concur...
- How then do they consider that "A COLLECTOR" could find enough Blank Cards (That no one has ever seen any of I might add) to have most of a set stamped up the same...
And as you and everyone else knows - You can't walk into officeworks and get them to foil stamp up a set of cards for you.

Believe what you like - I don't need to tell anyone anything, And like I said - You're the genius,
So you tell me....

Maybe I'll tell you if you're close to the mark!!
 
YOU'RE A GENIUS!!...

Select put it on the internet - Must be gospel!!
(Not like they'd be worried of collectors talking to ruin the integrity of their systems or anything??)
Let me quote a couple of lines from this exact statement.

"Select holds a small quantity of unnumbered sets to be used as replacement cards"
"Regardless how this #13 same number Legend Die Cut card set circulated in the collectors market"

As Select says (Generally, I couldn't be bothered to read it all again properly)
They consider it a near impossibility that "A COLLECTOR" could find so many 13's of this set and get them together.
I concur...
- How then do they consider that "A COLLECTOR" could find enough Blank Cards (That no one has ever seen any of I might add) to have most of a set stamped up the same...
And as you and everyone else knows - You can't walk into officeworks and get them to foil stamp up a set of cards for you.

Believe what you like - I don't need to tell anyone anything, And like I said - You're the genius,
So you tell me....

Maybe I'll tell you if you're close to the mark!!

As always you read & interrupt what you want to not what was actually said their are 15 unnumbered sets given to the players & another 2 to the NRL & we have all seen the 2004 un number Captain Signatures that have been on this site as well as Ebay... Hence why Select started put player on the back of them instead of leaving them un numbered. . Also Select have said that some not all have been stamped & the ones the collectors pulled from packets are the ones that were duplicated & we know of 3 that were in question. Anyone can buy metal number stamps from Bunnings & gold foil paper anywhere & yes maybe even Officeworks....

You are the Mr Know it all I've put forward what I've been told & seen. You always bombard everybody's conversations on this site & start attacking people if they don't think like you or what you believe in your little fantasy world, you are just like a HEMORRHOID that keeps popping up. So either put up the proof of what you are saying about Select or shut up no one want's to play your guessing game to build up your ego. You already are a legend in your own mind so stop hassling member on this site with your CRAP....Get a LIFE.... That's all I'm going to say on the matter & will not respond anymore to your 2 cent comments anymore. :worthy::worthy::worthy::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
 
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Select forget to mention; An alternate possibility of blanks stolen by a disgruntled employee.

The mind boggles mate...
"If only" someone could remember the name of old mate vk group a... The guy that sold these cards originally.
Maybe then some questions would be answers....
If only..... ;)
 
As always you read & interrupt what you want to not what was actually said their are 15 unnumbered sets given to the players & another 2 to the NRL & we have all seen the 2004 un number Captain Signatures that have been on this site as well as Ebay... Hence why Select started put player on the back of them instead of leaving them un numbered. . Also Select have said that some not all have been stamped & the ones the collectors pulled from packets are the ones that were duplicated & we know of 3 that were in question. Anyone can buy metal number stamps from Bunnings & gold foil paper anywhere & yes maybe even Officeworks....

You are the Mr Know it all I've put forward what I've been told & seen. You always bombard everybody's conversations on this site & start attacking people if they don't think like you or what you believe in your little fantasy world, you are just like a HEMORRHOID that keeps popping up. So either put up the proof of what you are saying about Select or shut up no one want's to play your guessing game to build up your ego. You already are a legend in your own mind so stop hassling member on this site with you CRAP....Get a LIFE.... That's all I'm going to say on the matter & will not respond anymore to your 2 cent comments anymore. :worthy::worthy::worthy::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

You're not getting offended because someone knows something about select that you don't again are you....
 
The Fittler spelling error was in the set when Select released it, they then offered a replacement for anyone who sent the original back to them, once they realised their mistake. So ... it's impossible to say which one is rarest, but if it was a Knights card I'd have been tracking down one of each.


After doing some research & thinking about it I'm lead to believe the error fittler would be worth more based on the rarity & based on that most roosters collectors would have the corrected card & not the error card that alone would drive the price up higher than the replacement card.
 
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The mind boggles mate...
"If only" someone could remember the name of old mate vk group a... The guy that sold these cards originally.
Maybe then some questions would be answers....
If only..... ;)

Domenic Caristino
 
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