2013 ESP NRL Trader

[troy titans]

Yeah i wish Select was making NRL Champions because then we could get NRL versions of these. They would be better value for money that Young Guns cards hey.

Exactly, I would love to see someone stand up and say they are actually happy with ESP traders..

 

[ooneil]

Gotta love that we are so passionate about pieces of cardboard.

 

[jrinbulli]

Exactly, I would love to see someone stand up and say they are actually happy with ESP traders..

From what I've seen of the pics of the cards they do look good but I'm disappointed in the ratios

 

[aussiebloke]

quote="ooneil, post: 1256078, member: 4187"]Yeah i wish Select was making NRL Champions because then we could get NRL versions of these. They would be better value for money that Young Guns cards hey.

[/quote]have you got shares in ESP lol

 

[ch0pzta]

Gotta love that we are so passionate about pieces of cardboard.

Its just how we roll.

 

[aussiebloke]

Ha ha so true

 

[sluggy74]

unless you jag a johns or raper card you have no chance of recovering your money if your a seller...
even then you will struggle...

 

[sluggy74]

unless you jag a johns or raper card you have no chance of recovering your money if your a seller...
even then you will struggle...

 

[aussiebloke]

That is why I will only buy the cards I need not boxes or packets

 

[Brendan_B]

unless you jag a johns or raper card you have no chance of recovering your money if your a seller...
even then you will struggle...

All excellent points if you are only buying to make cash but for me half the fun is busting a box or packets and if you happen to jag a big hit sweet otherwise it was still fun

 

[aussiebloke]

There will always be someone silly that will sell and do there axxse

 

[Matt26]

I thought buying cards and packs was about collecting and not what return you are making. You could go and blow $100 in the pokies and in most cases come away with nothing. In this case if you decide to buy a box, you at least get the base cards/inserts and a chance to pull a nice card. Sure you may win $1000 on a pokie but I think you would have better chances pulling a signature card than winning that money!

There are people who buy cards to collect, not to make a return on regardless of brand/make/release.

 

[ch0pzta]

I buy boxes/cases, keep what i want for my collection and sell the rest on eBay/here.

I dont make much money out of it, i have to buy at full retail price unlike the big dealers who get them at wholesale price.

The main reason i do it is because i love opening the packets/boxes with my 6yo son and hitting big, i love building my collection, and even the resale side of it i enjoy.

Ive got some pretty sweet cards in my collection doing it this way, and ive got a pretty solid Panthers collection in the works.

 

[jussy]

I was going to buy my first boxes but after hearing the ratio it would be better to put the funds towards buying the roosters cards i need
from the set and there is no way a young gun in worth $150 out of the 16 young guns only 3 of them would probally go on to be great players

 

[aussiebloke]

I buy boxes/cases, keep what i want for my collection and sell the rest on eBay/here.

I dont make much money out of it, i have to buy at full retail price unlike the big dealers who get them at wholesale price.

The main reason i do it is because i love opening the packets/boxes with my 6yo son and hitting big, i love building my collection, and even the resale side of it i enjoy.

Ive got some pretty sweet cards in my collection doing it this way, and ive got a pretty solid Panthers collection in the works.

thats fair enough but the ones who do it to make a quid have no hope

 

[ch0pzta]

If i was going to do it for the money i wouldnt be able to keep any lol, stuff that.

 

[aussiebloke]

I've bought cases for years and up to the last year and a bit have never sold a thing , with this new mob there is just no value so I will just buy the cards of here or eBayeBay

 

[jussy]

I've bought cases for years and up to the last year and a bit have never sold a thing , with this new mob there is just no value so I will just buy the cards of here or eBayeBay

Totally agree ther is no value whats so ever in a case thats why i waited and didnt race in to it untill the ratio came out
i feel sorry for the ones who collects the whole set its going to cost heaps

 

[aussiebloke]

Here here

 

[Diggaz TC]

Yeah the ratios look total crap
Ill be wanting Raiders young gun but paying anything over $30 for a signature rookie card is stupid. At those rates then it looks stupid

That $30 price you are putting on a young rookie signature card is a conditioned price that you have gotten used to from Select's Signature cards. We were also conditioned to expect parallel cards are worth approx $1 and when ESP limted came out last year everyone said wtf, won't pay that much for a parallel. Sellers will structure the price so that they can recoup costs regardless. Yes, the ESP parallels do now get bought anywhere between $6-$10ea. Yes people pay that price. It's just the way the market works.

It works the other way too, you tell an NBA collector that you just payed $30 for a next to no-name rookie auto #/300 and they would laugh. You can pick up autos of NBA Stars numbered less than 50 for $5.