ud retro 11-12 pmg proofs?

[Wattsup]

Hi guys, anyone know anything about these? Real/fake/buyer beware?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=390985141661&alt=web

Seller has quite a few.
Thanks

 

[ozballer23]

never seen these before... @Cobretti a fleer collector might know something, looks suss though.

 

[Billyhoyle]

any chance it could be something like this?

http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/community/threads/whats-the-story-behind-these.34270/

 

[ozballer23]

any chance it could be something like this?

http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/community/threads/whats-the-story-behind-these.34270/

These have a glossy finish though.....

 

[Billyhoyle]

really interesting and not numbered (where any of the normal ones unnumbered?)

 

[ozballer23]

really interesting and not numbered (where any of the normal ones unnumbered?)

all the pmgs were numbered, the surface does look legit and there is color on the card when you look closely, unlike the dodgy proofs we seen in the past.

 

[Billyhoyle]

all the pmgs were numbered, the surface does look legit and there is color on the card when you look closely, unlike the dodgy proofs we seen in the past.

Leximo has some amazing stuff, I've bought some really oddball stuff in the past from him.

 

[ozballer23]

Leximo has some amazing stuff, I've bought some really oddball stuff in the past from him.

could well be legit, I just have never seen or heard of them before.

 

[Cobretti]

I never seen them either. I wonder if someone flogged a printing sheet before colour was applied on top of it? Reason I ay that is look at 13-14 how poor the print job is and you can see silver below some of them.

They do look interesting but not 10K interesting lol.

They remind me of the Silver Precious Metal non numbered set form 96-97 (I call them the father of PMGS lol) before the coloured PMGs come out in 97-98.

 

[Verse1]

I never seen them either. I wonder if someone flogged a printing sheet before colour was applied on top of it? Reason I ay that is look at 13-14 how poor the print job is and you can see silver below some of them.

They do look interesting but not 10K interesting lol.

They remind me of the Silver Precious Metal non numbered set form 96-97 (I call them the father of PMGS lol) before the coloured PMGs come out in 97-98.

I think you're spot on Dom. Looks to me like the base holofoil but no colour applied yet. The colour would be a translucent layer added last to give the PMG refractor effect.

Im 90% sure these are just a backdoored half finished sheet someone has got a hold of and trimmed up.

 

[ozballer23]

I think you're spot on Dom. Looks to me like the base holofoil but no colour applied yet. The colour would be a translucent layer added last to give the PMG refractor effect.

Im 90% sure these are just a backdoored half finished sheet someone has got a hold of and trimmed up.

You can see the blue on the jersey of mj in the pic I posted? And you won't see color on most of the others as they were in black and white anyways and ho no color.

 

[Cobretti]

You can see the blue on the jersey of mj in the pic I posted? And you won't see color on most of the others as they were in black and white anyways and ho no color.

The MJ jersey and all the other NC players had the blue colour on the PMGs

 

[Dogs2194]

This seller sells a lot of oddball items and he also has another ebay account as well that he trades under and has been accused of selling fake items in the past

Bought two bogut rookie refractors not numbered like the normal versions which u can't tell the difference except for the #

 

[KB.]

Does anyone know if he has any links to a manufacturer? He might get this stuff back door'ed or take the proofs straight from the productions line?