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bigrob2307 · Nov 15, 2016

from some facebook page...

The Australian Test Squad that was completely outplayed by South Africa in Hobart and Perth will go back to their state teams in an attempt to find some form before the day/night match in Adelaide.

All players with the exception of Hazelwood, Starc and Mennie will play this round of Sheffield Shield which begins on Thursday.

This Sheffield Shield round could be as intriguing and important as any seen in recent years with arguably eight spots up for grabs come time for the selectors to pick the squad for the dead rubber test in Adelaide which begins on the 24th of November.

The Mad Hatter · Nov 15, 2016

Cricket Australia, from the top down, needs to be rebuilt.

And junior cricket from the bottom to the top needs to be rebuilt.

No more retiring at 50. No more mercy rules. No more six over limits. It's all BS that breeds mediocrity.

220 · Nov 15, 2016

Merv was on the radio this afternoon and made a good point, 7 days ago we didn't have a problem, we had bowled SA out for 242 inside a day and were 0-158 in reply.

Scotty_WCE · Nov 15, 2016

220 said:
Merv was on the radio this afternoon and made a good point, 7 days ago we didn't have a problem, we had bowled SA out for 242 inside a day and were 0-158 in reply.

And since then, we've had three major batting collapses. We've got a pretty big problem now!

Matty76 · Nov 15, 2016

Admittedly stolen from elsewhere, but here is a quick recap of Australia's batting this morning:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJehlr1tEw

Wookiedragon · Nov 15, 2016

Matty76 said:
Admittedly stolen from elsewhere, but here is a quick recap of Australia's batting this morning:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJehlr1tEw

LOL Grandpa Simpson AKA Rod Marsh....

bigrob2307 · Nov 16, 2016

Rod Marsh has 'resigned'

Matty76 · Nov 17, 2016

I think sending the majority of the Test team back to Shield Cricket to "play for their futures" is confusing, having originally thought it was a good idea.

I suspect this means that if Burns, Voges, Ferguson and Nevill make runs, they'll remain in the Test team? Or, if "generation next" is to start now, why would you have (in the case of Voges and Ferguson) players in their 30's potentially taking the place of younger blokes at Shield level?

I have absolutely nothing against the players that have been picked for Australia as people or cricketers during the last five Tests. However, in my view it would have been more practical for the selectors to ask themselves: "who DO we take from this squad going forward?" and play those players in Adelaide.

If Adelaide ends in heavy defeat, fine - you can then draw your selector's line in the sand and start afresh with the Pakistan series. However I maintain that these are good cricketers, stifled by a pampered, "I'll do the thinking FOR you" environment that doesn't allow traditional, home-spun self-improvement.

I reckon a night on the cans might relax a few blokes!!

Keatoboy · Nov 17, 2016

Matty76 said:
I think sending the majority of the Test team back to Shield Cricket to "play for their futures" is confusing, having originally thought it was a good idea.

I suspect this means that if Burns, Voges, Ferguson and Nevill make runs, they'll remain in the Test team? Or, if "generation next" is to start now, why would you have (in the case of Voges and Ferguson) players in their 30's potentially taking the place of younger blokes at Shield level?

I have absolutely nothing against the players that have been picked for Australia as people or cricketers during the last five Tests. However, in my view it would have been more practical for the selectors to ask themselves: "who DO we take from this squad going forward?" and play those players in Adelaide.

If Adelaide ends in heavy defeat, fine - you can then draw your selector's line in the sand and start afresh with the Pakistan series. However I maintain that these are good cricketers, stifled by a pampered, "I'll do the thinking FOR you" environment that doesn't allow traditional, home-spun self-improvement.

I reckon a night on the cans might relax a few blokes!!

I've been told that Callum Ferguson used to be a party goer in his younger days, apparently the term 'off his face' doesn't begin to describe it haha

I think if the current test blokes do well they will keep their spot, but if someone like Jake Lehmann or Kurtis Patterson who are rumoured to be on the radar, stood up and made a century in both innings or a double century, then they'd have a good chance of making the squad.

Keatoboy · Nov 17, 2016

Usman Khawaja has tonned up, virtually cementing himself a spot in the squad for the Adelaide test. Unfortunately for Adam Voges, he's copped a nasty blow to the helmet and had to retire hurt. The footage of him falling to the ground scared me, Phil Hughes is still in the back of my mind.

Matt Renshaw is 99* at tea, Peter Handscomb has compiled a steady 72* off 132 balls, and Travis Dean has got himself a century too. Plenty of names going up in lights this round!

Scotty_WCE · Nov 18, 2016

Keatoboy said:
Usman Khawaja has tonned up, virtually cementing himself a spot in the squad for the Adelaide test. Unfortunately for Adam Voges, he's copped a nasty blow to the helmet and had to retire hurt. The footage of him falling to the ground scared me, Phil Hughes is still in the back of my mind.

Matt Renshaw is 99* at tea, Peter Handscomb has compiled a steady 72* off 132 balls, and Travis Dean has got himself a century too. Plenty of names going up in lights this round!

I was at the WACA yesterday and saw Voges get hit. I initially thought the ball hit the shoulder of his bat with the way it lobbed all the way to gully, who dived to catch the ball. Obviously when I looked back at Voges he was on his hands and knees, and all the Tassie players were around him. Nasty blow but it was a good sign he could walk off the ground (albeit assisted) and from all reports he's groggy but OK.

A few big performances from contenders and also guys who weren't being talked about. A shame neither Burns nor Bancroft made runs. Handscomb has surely just about locked in his spot. Still, an interesting three days ahead...

Brendan_B · Nov 18, 2016

Burns caught down the leg side two innings in a row....you wouldn't read about it!!

Keatoboy · Nov 18, 2016

The Adelaide strikers have traded Hamish Kingston for Ben Dunk, very happy with that!!

Matty76 · Nov 20, 2016

A stunning piece by Mike Coward on Australian cricket's current state. What a tremendous writer and thinker this man is.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...g/news-story/8bcd86a4348308c0d3122247a2ba32d0

What are your thoughts, ladies and gentlemen?

The Mad Hatter · Nov 20, 2016

The success of 1989-1993 and 1994-2005 was no fluke.

Border ans Simpson and others instilled a steely, hard nosed work ethic. then Rod Marsh had tge academy grooming potential and having fresh talented teoops ready to sign up.

Unfortunately , aust cricket became a victim of its own success and ego.

Theyve turmed their back on the basics, the development and yes over sceduled, over train and over rest. its about appeasing corporates and media types. they also promoted test cricketers too highly after the golden era instead of easing back and rebuilding so test players earned the dollars and adulation.

I dont think its the end of the world. the media loves this. it gives them something to sermonise and pontificate about.

With a back to basics approach and an investment in hard work and talent, the ship will be righted.

I also see the test team as a reflection of aussiw culture as a whole. weve lost our way and focus.

Matty76 · Nov 20, 2016

It's amazing how often you don't quite capture the absurdity of something until someone else spells it out for you. On the ABC Grandstand "Press Pass" segment today, a listener texted/tweeted/whatever-ed the following observation:

*The first round of the Sheffield Shield this season consisted of day/night matches with a pink ball, ahead of a traditional day-time Test match.

*The current round of Shield games were played as day-time matches, ahead of a day/night Test match with a pink ball.

Ladies and gentlemen......the selectors are the LEAST of our problems!!

The Mad Hatter · Nov 21, 2016

All I will say is my team mate currently holds the Australia wide #1 batting average for the summer with 426.

And I've borrowed his phone to take any calls. ;-)

The Mad Hatter · Nov 23, 2016

Faf Du Plessis new tactic...

Scotty_WCE · Nov 23, 2016

Australia's squad for the ODI series against New Zealand has been named:

Steve Smith (c), David Warner (vc), George Bailey, Hilton Cartwright, Pat Cummins, James Faulkner, Aaron Finch, Travis Head, Josh Hazlewood, Mitchell Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Mitchell Starc, Matthew Wade, Adam Zampa

Very pleased to see Cartwright in there. Hopefully he gets a chance to show what he's got.

Matty76 · Nov 24, 2016

"NIIIICE GARRY!"
"NIIIICE GARRY!"
"NIIIICE GARRY!"
"NIIIICE GARRY!"
"NIIIICE GARRY!"
"NIIIICE GARRY!"

Dear Matty Wade: For the love of God.....change the bloody record mate!! I'm going to wake up at 2am tomorrow muttering "Niiiiiiiice Garry", I'm sure of it!!

If it was a drinking game......I'd probably just glass myself!!!

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