Serious allegations- Must read this Ebay Post by a fellow OZ member

lilreddevil · Jul 1, 2011

rishgoon said:
Do many people have separate ebay accounts from their husbands/wives etc...?
I wish I did, would get away with buying more cards if my missus couldn't see the account. Apart from that, what's the point of two accounts?

Don't both of their accounts sell NBA cards? What's the point of that?

bond_girl · Jul 1, 2011

i buy and sell clothes on one, my partner buys and sells cards on the other

both good hobbies, especially for me
Amy

---------- Post added 01-07-2011 at 11:55 PM ----------

guys missing the point of it all, wegotstock99 is a thief

ooneil · Jul 2, 2011

rishgoon said:
Do many people have separate ebay accounts from their husbands/wives etc...?
I wish I did, would get away with buying more cards if my missus couldn't see the account. Apart from that, what's the point of two accounts?

I know plenty that do including myself. If my wife new what I spent on cards my ar@e would be grass. I'm sorry you lost your card Amy, I'm not sure if the AFP will be able to do anything for but thanks for the warning on this person.

DGCollectables · Jul 2, 2011

now my head hurts from reading all of this late on friday night

bjs127 · Jul 2, 2011

So you also live in Sydney Amy.....is your husband friends with jrsmith23?

There appears to be too much to show you are linked in some way.....for you to say you only made contact for the first time today seems incredibly difficult to comprehend when he knew you had also been allegedly scammed by wegotstock99.....how did he know you had also had cards go missing through the mail refund?

Jerald · Jul 2, 2011

Hope that everything becomes clear before the sun rises.

lilreddevil · Jul 2, 2011

Jerald said:
Hope that everything becomes clear before the sun rises.

Doubt it. At the rate it's going I'm still as confused as before

Sanctum · Jul 2, 2011

lilreddevil said:
Wow it is Asians like him who give us a bad name. It's a shame really

Race has nothing to do with it and anyone racially generalising is a ****er.

A1CardsandGaming · Jul 2, 2011

How does Bond_girl's ebay id show up as Germany? Does it stay located where the account was set up ?

Sanctum · Jul 2, 2011

bond_girl said:
please, enuf is enuf with that. jordan_patch23 is not jrsmith23. JR does have a forum name of jordan23.. i think this is what is getting everyone confused.
i would appreciate your support with this matter

Amy

I don't know anyone involved in this and am emotionally unconnected to all this, so from an objective point of view... That's the 3rd time you've said you'd like everyone's support but I think in order to receive support you may have to provide whatever the evidence is you claimed to have in the first post.

If you have been ripped off I feel for you but I also think in this matter, getting support is gonna be like trust and somehow your gonna have to earn it.

lilreddevil · Jul 2, 2011

Sanctum said:
Race has nothing to do with it and anyone racially generalising is a ****er.

I never said race had anything to do with it but you would have to agree that at least some stereotypes still exist about Asians being cheap and calculating. This guy seems to fit those steretypes perfectly.

Sanctum said:
I don't know anyone involved in this and am emotionally unconnected to all this, so from an objective point of view... That's the 3rd time you've said you'd like everyone's support but I think in order to receive support you may have to provide whatever the evidence is you claimed to have in the first post.

If you have been ripped off I feel for you but I also think in this matter, getting support is gonna be like trust and somehow your gonna have to earn it.

Spot on right there.
@bond_girl What the forum wanted, I guess, was some evidence which would help you gain our trust just like Carl pointed out. At the moment all you have done is deny stuff, and provide reasons. Where's the solid proof?

Stashman_GC · Jul 2, 2011

Wow this stuff is messed up.... I got the flu n cant sleep... why did i read this... my brain wants 2 explode atm tryna work it all out??? LMFAO :v:

BRONBRON · Jul 2, 2011

WOW.... the only thing that makes sense here is the monkey

Sanctum · Jul 2, 2011

lilreddevil said:
I never said race had anything to do with it but you would have to agree that at least some stereotypes still exist about Asians being cheap and calculating. This guy seems to fit those steretypes perfectly.

Don't get me wrong, I'm on your side here mate, it's unfortunate you have to feel like someone's behaviour is a reflection on you because your both Asian. I'm NOT calling YOU racist if that's what you thought.

But just for arguments sake, the fact is you did mention race as soon as you used the term Asian, I've quoted you below

Wow it is Asians like him who give us a bad name. It's a shame really

Stashman_GC said:
Wow this stuff is messed up.... I got the flu n cant sleep... why did i read this... my brain wants 2 explode atm tryna work it all out??? LMFAO :v:

Yeah the Non-high end Jordan collector part of me wishes I'd never read it. Couldn't help but be curious to know what's going on though and to know who's dodgy & see them exposed is surely always a good thing...

A_Iverson_I · Jul 2, 2011

AyiosYiorgos said:
Not that i know any of the parties involved but if people are shill bidding etc, then they get ripped off i think its called Karma, not that 2 wrongs make a right either, just gives the whole hobby a bad name....

Yeah. Similar to what I was gonna say; not that I condone ripping anyone off or anything, but what goes around comes around

ljandkg · Jul 2, 2011

I expect to see this all played out on 'World's dumbest criminals' on the crime channel sometime soon.

And Amy - No support from me.

Foolish · Jul 2, 2011

bond_girl said:
Hi, This is Bond_girl (Amy)

I am the one who posted the auction. I have been reading everyones reply.
I am a bit dissapointed to read the things on the forum..
This theft happened to me and my husband over 8 months ago now and i have stayed quiet up until now.
The only reason i decided to come out with it now, was because i found out the same thing happended to JRSMITH_23 only today.
I don't want WEGOTSTOCK99 to do this to anyone anymore especially collectors from Australia

Just to clarify a few things.
Bond_girl and Jordan_patch23 are mine and my husbands account.

Today was the only day i have spoken to JRSMITH23 , i have never dealt with this person Ray before today.. So please don't accuse us 3 as being all one person because we are not.

the attention should be on wegotstock99 not on me or my husband who have been truly hurt from the GREED of one person.
I am not aware of JRSMITH's reputation, but as far as bond_girl and jordan_patch23 we have never had a problem with anyone hence our 100% feedback.

I have evidence of the case and would appreciate if you guys can support me and my partner!!

Kind Regards Amy

Okay I will stay out of the issue of missing cards but there has been accusations about your auctions being shilled, do you have any comments about that allegation?

And also how did you find out about this topic on the forum?

Due to all this commotion going on surrounding the above 3 Ebay usernames I do not think there will be much sales in the future, I think alot of people will be staying away.

Also with the internet, we all know it is very hard to trust anyone because you just do not know who is on the other side of the PC, for example how would we know that it is really an amy and not Ray typing this message, if you know what I mean.

I guess everyone will have an opinion on this situation, and if people wanted to really clear their names they would do it by providing some proof so that others who might want to purchase cards from those sellers in the future have no doubts.

hairyangryfella · Jul 2, 2011

bond_girl said:
Hi, This is Bond_girl (Amy)

Today was the only day i have spoken to JRSMITH23 , i have never dealt with this person Ray before today.. So please don't accuse us 3 as being all one person because we are not.

Didn't your auction (before it was edited) say 'your friend' jrsmith_23... interesting to clarify him as a friend if you'd never spoken to him before...

I can't be bothered with this situation anymore. I hope whoever is actually honest and not doing anything shady like shilling or stealing or making false claims etc gets things resolved for them and whoever isn't suffers some bad karma, but right now I just don't know or really care who that is.

khouzza · Jul 2, 2011

If you are who I think you are then you and I both know what you tried to pull on me at the last Sydney card show.....and I nearly fell for it too, considering I have the upmost respect for the collectors on this forum I thought I had no reason to be worried...even after a few warned me about you....all I will say is for your sake I truly hope you are not at the next show in Sydney.

A_Iverson_I · Jul 2, 2011

khouzza said:
If you are who I think you are then you and I both know what you tried to pull on me at the last Sydney card show.....and I nearly fell for it too, considering I have the upmost respect for the collectors on this forum I thought I had no reason to be worried...even after a few warned me about you....all I will say is for your sake I truly hope you are not at the next show in Sydney.

Wow...... this guy sounds like a real piece of work!

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