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hsv006 · Jul 11, 2011

lololo...all the comments about what will happen to this scammer if he turns up..
He turns up and nada...
At least someone asked him...better than nothing i guess

khouzza · Jul 11, 2011

hsv006 said:
lololo...all the comments about what will happen to this scammer if he turns up..
He turns up and nada...
At least someone asked him...better than nothing i guess

Seriously what did you want to happen? Take him outside and flog him....I would love to, or make a big scene in front of everyone at the show....I don't think either is a good idea coz both would have ruined the show. Dave questioned him about it and the smug ***** denied it and laughed it off.....I think this thread has served it's purpose though. Everyone knows who he is and what he's about

A1CardsandGaming · Jul 11, 2011

You don't have to bash someone to prove a point ! Surely for the sake of others safety in the hobby, this guy should have been asked to leave the show. Letting him hang around enjoying box breaks for the day just does not seem right to me. If he decided to make a scene about it (not likely) then concerned onlookers could be told what the reason was for removing this person from the show. Other scam artists would be well warned that it will happen to them !

morethancardz · Jul 11, 2011

A1_Cards_and_Gaming said:
You don't have to bash someone to prove a point ! Surely for the sake of others safety in the hobby, this guy should have been asked to leave the show. Letting him hang around enjoying box breaks for the day just does not seem right to me. If he decided to make a scene about it (not likely) then concerned onlookers could be told what the reason was for removing this person from the show. Other scam artists would be well warned that it will happen to them !

If it's a public event you can't stop him from showing up. I'm not defending him but crooks have rights aswell.

ooneil · Jul 11, 2011

morethancardz said:
If it's a public event you can't stop him from showing up. I'm not defending him but crooks have rights aswell.

Nah, he should be banned from this event. Plenty of people are banned from attending footy games and they are public event.

Someone said he tried to sneak into the last one without paying. Grounds for banning IMO.

I love that all the guys in here are prepared to take a stand against scumbags like this. Its great.

morethancardz · Jul 11, 2011

ooneil said:
Nah, he should be banned from this event. Plenty of people are banned from attending footy games and they are public event.

Someone said he tried to sneak into the last one without paying. Grounds for banning IMO.

I love that all the guys in here are prepared to take a stand against scumbags like this. Its great.

Maybe put up some mugshot posters about him at the entrance of the next show. Spread the word and he won't be welcome anywhere again.

hsv006 · Jul 11, 2011

khouzza said:
Seriously what did you want to happen? Take him outside and flog him....I would love to, or make a big scene in front of everyone at the show....I don't think either is a good idea coz both would have ruined the show. Dave questioned him about it and the smug ***** denied it and laughed it off.....I think this thread has served it's purpose though. Everyone knows who he is and what he's about

incorrect...i was thinking more along the lines of having him removed etc..
Naturally he denied it...did you think he would fess up...liar ,cheat and theif if all reports are correct.
He turned up because either we are all wrong or he new nothing would be done.

But as mentioned..at least more people will stay clear of him.
Its the new and unaware collectors he will pray on

A1CardsandGaming · Jul 11, 2011

I............... never mind

rishgoon · Jul 11, 2011

Guy should of been kicked out, or at least publicly shamed. As good as this thread is to alert others, can't imagine every person who attended the show has read it. He may very well of ripped off some other poor collector.

Mico · Jul 11, 2011

If I was there I would of grabbed him by the scruff of the neck, put him up against the wall, punched him in each boob, flick his balls then dislocate his pinkie, then I wou....... ohh bother, how annoying. I just spilt chamomile and honey tea over my keyboard. Man, my wife is gonna kill me.

ryawil0 · Jul 11, 2011

Mico said:
If I was there I would of grabbed him by the scruff of the neck, put him up against the wall, punched him in each boob, flick his balls then dislocate his pinkie, then I wou....... ohh bother, how annoying. I just spilt chamomile and honey tea over my keyboard. Man, my wife is gonna kill me.

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postgsl · Jul 11, 2011

Mico said:
If I was there I would of grabbed him by the scruff of the neck, put him up against the wall, punched him in each boob, flick his balls then dislocate his pinkie, then I wou....... ohh bother, how annoying. I just spilt chamomile and honey tea over my keyboard. Man, my wife is gonna kill me.

Oh good, does that mean I get to keep the cards you are having graded. No good sending them back if your dead.

Richo · Jul 11, 2011

We should all keep an eye out for him (At future card shows) and continue to follow and question him each time we see him!

Sanctum · Jul 11, 2011

Richo said:
We should all keep an eye out for him (At future card shows) and continue to follow and question him each time we see him!

Maybe you guys should rock up with the A Current Affair team

Cebru · Jul 11, 2011

Just follow him around, pinching him, kicking his heel each time he takes a step, give him a pile of base each time he asks to look at ya trades, poke him with a skewer etc etc
Wouldn't really expect anyone to hit this creature or anything, by the look of him I'd offer even money on him (to quote Abdominal) 'in a barefisted cagematch versus a sleep deprived, blindfolded Richard Simmons'.

Brian Lee · Jul 12, 2011

lilreddevil said:
Well I was around him for quite a bit of time. He was mostly trying to buy boxes, spark up some small talk, and also trying to offload his Yao Ming auto to Brian. They like a back-and-forth for like 20 minutes, Brian wanted the card for $22.50 and Ray wouldn't budge on $25 saying how Brian ripped him off last time they traded. How ironic for Ray to talk about getting ripped off.

LOL, it is true that the bargaining process went on all the way till the end of the show... I bought the auto for $23.50 at the end. Regarding the claim that I ripped him off last time, yes I did come out a little bit on top with that trade but I did give him $50 and a Jermaine O'Neal auto, so I wouldn't exactly call it a rip-off. The same kind of bargaining process went on, at the end of the day he wanted to sell a card, I wanted to buy a card so it's fair game.

I did ask Ray about the incident with khouzza, he said they did a trade but he didn't say much more than that. He also didn't say much about the stolen MJ cards on ebay except that all of those questionable accounts are not his. One thing I found out during the show though is that there was a rumour going around that Ray took someone's Kobe Chrome RC but Gary later confirmed that the card was in fact found by its owner.

So has anyone done any more investigation? I am eager to find out what actually happened... even though deep down I know we will never know the truth..

DGCollectables · Jul 12, 2011

Yeh maybe we should close this thread off soon as i think we have covered all bases. If Nick wants his revenge he needs to come to the next card show!

Verse1 · Jul 12, 2011

westriot said:
Yeh maybe we should close this thread off soon as i think we have covered all bases. If Nick wants his revenge he needs to come to the next card show!

Revenge? Revenge for what? As far as im concerned im happy he's been outed for being a scammer/thief/shiller and all round scumbag. Hopefully everything thats gone down atleast makes people think before they deal with him.
If it was my cards he tried to pinch as happened to Khouzza it would be a different story

khouzza · Jul 12, 2011

Lol of coarse he didn't say much after that.....the smaller "test" trade I did with him was my Nash auto for his MJ beam team......naturally that's all he's going to "remember"

DGCollectables · Jul 12, 2011

Verse1 said:
Revenge? Revenge for what? As far as im concerned im happy he's been outed for being a scammer/thief/shiller and all round scumbag. Hopefully everything thats gone down atleast makes people think before they deal with him.
If it was my cards he tried to pinch as happened to Khouzza it would be a different story

Didn't he trade you a dodgy Payton in non mint condition or did i imagine this? And you want to get close to his nutsack

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