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DGCollectables · Jan 14, 2007

I haven't received a $100 card in the mail and the guy says hes posted it with a US tracking number but then there is no record of the item. What should i do, i went through paypal and its going through the channels. I think ive been ripped off.

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justdabestcards · Jan 14, 2007

sorry to hear, thats crap mate. just go through with the paypal claim. if there is no record of the tracking #, then they should award your claim for item not received.

andrew3134 · Jan 14, 2007

did the seller give you a tracking no. cause you can contact the postal service (eg- USPS) and give them the tracking no. and the the customer service person can tell you where the item is at the moment. I remember i bought a item off ebay, got the tracking no. from the seller contacted the post office in the USA to find out what was happening with the item, the seller had dropped the item off at the post office 2 weeks earlier but the lazy people at the post office didn't send it off to Australia to 2 weeks later and then it got held up in customs. So you might still see it, but don't let it go past the paypal 45 day limit for opening up a dispute.

gemini0928 · Jan 15, 2007

Just file a claim and dont worry about what the seller said.

If he cant prove to paypal that he sent it, you are likely to win the claim.

Goodluck!!!

Richo · Jan 15, 2007

Thanks for the heads up dude ! Let us know how you go getting a payPal refund !

Al is right in what he said above

Richo · Jan 15, 2007

PS - Why haven't you left him a Neg ??? He deserves it !!!

DGCollectables · Jan 15, 2007

I haven't left a neg in my time on ebay. I should but there is a glimmer of hope it may show up. Which is fading by the second. Thanks all.

CAN'T FLY · Jan 15, 2007

Id be patient, ive had many a 1-2 month wait. Only once i didnt recieve a card.

DGCollectables · Jan 15, 2007

Anyhow, this is my ultimatum this this guy:

Hello,
I have waited over a month to receive this card and to no avail. I will be leaving negative feedback shortly if i do not get an update or response regarding this card i paid a lot of money for.
Gary

I do want this card as its a Fleer GOTG John Starks Auto /10. Irreplaceable really and friggin expensive to purchase.

Richo · Jan 22, 2007

So what's the update on this Westy ?

DGCollectables · Jan 23, 2007

The guy said he had an accident over Christmas and that he didn't send the card until now but the thing i don't get is that he submitted a fake registered post USPS number in the paypal dispute rebuttal. So whats the real story here? I reckon there are going to be more sellers who sell stuff and don't send it out, put a fake registered post number in the rebuttal and then paypal will rule in favour of the seller as he apparently registered but we all know he didn't even send it out. Whats a negative going to do? Its not going to get my $100 back.

andrew3134 · Jan 23, 2007

i think you can get your credit card company to refund the money for you. Don't ask me how, but i do remember someone posting on this forum that you can ask the CC company to get the money back. (providing you paid with a credit card).

DGCollectables · Jan 24, 2007

Just got another email here:

Gary,

Sorry, but I need you to send me your address again. For some reason, it was not the one I put on the bubble mailer. I'm sorry for the inconvienence, but trust me, I am still reliable...

Thanks,
Matt

So the question is, he hasn't sent it, or he sent it to the wrong address, but in the latter case, how can he send the card again? Its a /10 card?

DGCollectables · Jan 24, 2007

Here is my rebuttal:

Hi Matt,
Im getting really confused here. You say you sent the card as you put a tracking number in paypal. I checked the tracking number and it doesn't exist. Then you say you had an accident over Christmas so you couldn't send the card until now. And then you said you posted it off and now your asking for my address again. All i know is that i paid on the 11th of December, and now its the 24th of January, and 44 days have passed since i paid. Call me sceptical but i think this is an absolute joke and im not that gullible: "I'm sorry for the inconvienence, but trust me, I am still reliable..." I know this sounds harsh but this is by far the worst experience ive had on ebay yet.
Gary

DGCollectables · Jan 26, 2007

Negatived the ass: Avoid at all costs: statboy3181
Paid on 11/12/06, no card after 6 weeks. Stole my $90US on /10 John Starks Auto.

Buyer westriot( 944Feedback score is 500 to 999)
26-Jan-07 01:24 190058918625

DGCollectables · Jan 26, 2007

You can guess what happened when i left the negative....retalitory or however you spell it negative feedback!!!!!!!!!!!!! That really helps your feedback when you are trying to sell stuff on ebay. But i guess he didn't give a shit when he decided to give me the runaround.

My response to his lies:

Matt,
All i know is that i got the runaround and ive been ripped off before on a cheaper card (an Oscar Robertson Ultimate Collection /25 base card) but this time i had to act because there are too many people out there who get ripped off and can't do anything about it. I know you say you contacted me once however i have tried about 3 different avenues, through paypal (which you left a fake tracking number for me to look up), then via email, and then via ebay messaging system.
If you say you still have the card and honestly want to send it out to me, send it to:

xxxxxxx
xxxxx
xxxxxxx
Australia

If i somehow receive the card this year then we can cancel the negatives.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Jboyd685@aol.com
To: westriotebay@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: Message from eBay Member Regarding Item #190058918625

Gary,
I feel the negative feedback you left was totally unacceptable. I tried to ship the card once, but I printed the label online and did not have the right form to ship internationally. Thats when I had the accident. I have the card in my hand still. I needed your address because eBay deletes it once you print a shipping label, but in this case, it didn't work. Send me your address, I will send the card with tracking, and provide that tracking to you by tomorrow at 5:00 EST. We can cancel the negs, and you can get your card....

Matt

Richo · Jan 26, 2007

Gary - The thing is, you CAN cancel negs so be patient with him and agree to cancel the neg if you get your card ! I think you were right to neg him - His excuses are BS.......proven when he provided you with a fake tracking number

My advice to you as a seller would be to create a separate eBay ID just for buying ! It is quite OK with eBay as long as it does not interact with your auctions (selling ID) and it them means if you cop a retaliation negative it won't effect your selling ID This is what I have done, I now don't care about retaliation negatives as it is only my buyig ID
Regards

ScottE · Jan 26, 2007

I wouldn't cancel the neg until you recieve the card. I fell for this before and then after I canceled the neg the card never turned up. I couldn't leave another feedback after that either so he got away clean.

Richo · Jan 26, 2007

Yup - I agree with Scott (As I said before) Cancel the neg once you have the card

DGCollectables · Feb 7, 2007

Surprise surprise i haven't received the card but paypal have sent me this:

We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favour.

We were able to recover $90.11 USD, and this amount has been credited to
you. Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted.

If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to
recover the balance from the seller.

If the seller's account has insufficient funds to complete the refund owed
to you, please be assured that we will take appropriate action against the
seller's account, which may include limitation of the seller's account
privileges.

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