Predictors Gold Sets

2017NRLTraderPredictor · Dec 21, 2017

"How long have you been collecting mate?

Any cards that are sent for redemption are hole punched so the redemption can't be used again. This is a very standard practice."

Only this year, point is that they ESP as a Australian Company selling product in Australia have to follow/abide by the consumer laws.
They ESP never publically announced at the time of what practices/damage they would do to my property.
That example was used as to show how I could easily "win" a ACCC case, as it was questioned as I "having a case"
Like I said, many ways to skin a cat if not adequately compensated.

Brendan_B · Dec 22, 2017

Well good luck, I think you will need it.

While lodging the complaint you might as well cover off on the criminal element and make a report of malicious damage to the Police.

sgt_pepper · Dec 22, 2017

redeem = exchange. you kinda lost rights to the redemptions when you decided to redeem them for another set. i'd be surprised if ESP are under any obligation to give the originals back at all...

warriors_man · Dec 22, 2017

This is what a select predictor says:

And this is what an ESP predictor says:

This is ridiculous, literally all you were promised was a mini Premiership set for the winning team, it says nothing about what you get for putting all 16 cards together, so ESP giving you that is a bonus. If you wanted to go out and spend thousands on predictors (like some guy on facebook is claiming he did) on the promise of what is written on the back of that card then each to their own.

Murphy46 · Dec 22, 2017

Davebvd said:
Remember being a kid (way back in 94), saving your hard earned coins, jumping on the pushie to the corner store to buy cards. And the mind blowing excitement when you pulled a 'gold' card. Best feeling in the world! You just lost your s*** at how awesome the universe was.

I'm getting off topic here but this right here Dave is what got me back into collecting cards last year. I found my 4 gold cards while moving house and remembered that feeling of buying packets and that feeling you get when you hit one. I bought the Kerrod Walters a few weeks ago to finally complete the 5 card set, only took 20 odd years to do.

saintsforever · Dec 22, 2017

Brendan_B said:
But all 16 are required to claim the gold parallel set so they are all redemptions. Where did they say they would collate the numbers on the database?

Just like when you sent the 16 predictors in for Select, they would hole punch every one.

I actually rang esp to find out what the go was, they said to me you had send in all 16 predictors, only the first 20 people would get the set.
Then it was said who ever won the comp would get the set. by sending in all 16 cards is only to prove the collector had in fact were in possesion of the 16 cards, they would hold them and send them back with the gold set.
In saying that, the only card that should be whole punched should be the winning team as there are no other cards being sent out nor redeemable.

Matt26 · Dec 22, 2017

Every Australian redemption card I have ever redeemed starting with the cricket series in the mid 90's though to current day have all had their redemption cards hole punched.

If you have a case against ESP then 100000 other collectors should also take Futera, Select, Dynamic, TNP, SEP etc and the rest to court!

Might be hard getting any cash out of Dynamic and Futera though!

Sharks16 · Dec 22, 2017

Matt26 said:
Fair enough......I have a lot of issues with things that TLA does but on this occasion I just don't see how what they have promised and what they have delivered are different?

The only people I've seen with that view are people that don't have a set . Of the predictors that is ?Opinions are like a holes and everyone deserves one but I haven't seen one person with the set say they were happy . And to be fair , that's the only opinion that really matters?

Brendan_B · Dec 22, 2017

Sharks16 said:
The only people I've seen with that view are people that don't have a set . Of the predictors that is ?Opinions are like a holes and everyone deserves one but I haven't seen one person with the set say they were happy . And to be fair , that's the only opinion that really matters?

I think you will find that objective views like that are what contribute to the growth of the hobby and give a bit more credibility to the situation.

Sharks16 · Dec 22, 2017

Brendan_B said:
How long have you been collecting mate?

Any cards that are sent for redemption are hole punched so the redemption can't be used again. This is a very standard practice.

I haven't been collecting long myself , but from what I've seen , aren't redemptions usually a plain looking card and not as good as what you redeem them for ?? Forgive me if I don't know what I'm talking about ?

Brendan_B · Dec 22, 2017

Sharks16 said:
I haven't been collecting long myself , but from what I've seen , aren't redemptions usually a plain looking card and not as good as what you redeem them for ?? Forgive me if I don't know what I'm talking about ?

Signature redemptions yes. In the Select years some of the Premiership predictors were very nice

graham · Dec 22, 2017

2017NRLTraderPredictor said:
That example was used as to show how I could easily "win" a ACCC case, as it was questioned as I "having a case"
Like I said, many ways to skin a cat if not adequately compensated.

This is getting a bit old now. If you are so confident of being successful then get moving. No need to post 50 posts here about it.

saintsforever · Dec 22, 2017

graham said:
This is getting a bit old now. If you are so confident of being successful then get moving. No need to post 50 posts here about it.

coffee's on at my place.
same bat channel.

Davebvd · Dec 22, 2017

Murphy46 said:
I'm getting off topic here but this right here Dave is what got me back into collecting cards last year. I found my 4 gold cards while moving house and remembered that feeling of buying packets and that feeling you get when you hit one. I bought the Kerrod Walters a few weeks ago to finally complete the 5 card set, only took 20 odd years to do.

Totally!!!!! It was like winning the golden ticket for the chocolate factory!

Brendan_B · Dec 28, 2017

Have all 20 gold parallel sets been claimed?

If so I am surprised that the predictors are still fetching a reasonable $$ on eBay

hobo · Dec 28, 2017

Cant believe even a redeemed predictor is selling for $50 plus or do you think the bidders haven't read the description?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2017-NR...438955?hash=item21358e4cab:g:9EcAAOSw0exaPBd4

Brendan_B · Dec 28, 2017

Interesting way to sell off the predictors. Not sure if the buyers have read that description

Battingticks84 · Dec 28, 2017

No surprises that it’s daytrader. Pretty poor that the card for sale isn’t even the one in the photo.

220 · Jan 1, 2018

I hadnt been following this, only just read it all.
Personally I think all the predictors were way overpriced on the secondary market.
I thought the standard premiership set would be worth $100-200 and the gold around $400.
I feel the golds should be individually stickered but apart from that what has been delivered is pretty much what I was expecting.
The individual stickering is a easy fix and I hope they correct it but apart from that I cant see what else needs to be done.
Every predictor came out of a $3.99 packet of cards.

Sharks16 · Jan 1, 2018

$3.99x16= butterflies and fairy land . Anyone got a sharks emerald for $7.99 ?I'll take it .lol

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