Parallel over kill

Billyhoyle · Nov 22, 2014

I don't understand this - this is not a new issue, topps started it with Finest years ago. (http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/community/threads/topps-finest.8340/#post-81654) - yes I don't agree with it, don't like it but it's not a new issue or a Panini issue

Verse1 · Nov 23, 2014

Billyhoyle said:
I don't understand this - this is not a new issue, topps started it with Finest years ago. (http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/community/threads/topps-finest.8340/#post-81654) - yes I don't agree with it, don't like it but it's not a new issue or a Panini issue

The problem is not one or two products (ie: Finest & Chrome) but basically every product Panini releases now has multiple variations.
I could handle it if it was say 3-4 products a year but this sh1t is just overkill.

KB. · Nov 23, 2014

Verse1 said:
The problem is not one or two products (ie: Finest & Chrome) but basically every product Panini releases now has multiple variations.
I could handle it if it was say 3-4 products a year but this sh1t is just overkill.

Agreed. I was stoked when immaculate only had 3 Aminu's to chase and they were numbered /99, /10 & /1. That being said, I hate how EVERY card has to have a 1/1 variation now too. My wantlist is littered with 1/1's will I'll probably never see. I've had 4 years of hoops products for Aminu and NEVER seen the base 1/1 for any of them.

ozballer23 · Nov 23, 2014

Billyhoyle said:
I don't understand this - this is not a new issue, topps started it with Finest years ago. (http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/community/threads/topps-finest.8340/#post-81654) - yes I don't agree with it, don't like it but it's not a new issue or a Panini issue

That was only with Finest though, and the novelty was good at the time, but it's almost every Panini product!!!! There is no novelty anymore, it's just plain annoying!

Mr Paparazzi · Nov 23, 2014

Totally Agree not just with parallels but also RC Auto's. Collecting Nerlens Noel RC Auto and there is a crazy amount and 3-6 variations for each release.

I can see the hobby bottom out in the next 2-4 years if this continues.

vivo87 · Nov 25, 2014

Just read this thread...kinda gave me a sinking feeling haha...more and more cards and less money!

Telfs Card Park · Nov 29, 2014

This is why I have decided to focus solely on Spurs Immaculate and 2003-2010 Exquisite cards, going for quality over quantity. Less cards to pursue and less money wasted on stuff that becomes worthless a week after release. Panini have flooded the market and destroyed value in the process. Its amazing how hard it is to find low end cards from cheap products yet everyone seems to be breaking Immaculate and there is a huge amount available everyday. Bring back the good olddays of 8-10 or so releases a year Panini!

Matt26 · Nov 29, 2014

ozballer23 said:
For some time now Panini has been overloading us with Parallels, but as a player collector, Totally certified is ridiculous! I thought Preferred was nuts......

Base
Red 279
Blue 149
Purple 49
Gold 10
Green 5
Black 1

Red Die Cuts 135
Blue Die Cuts 74
Purple Die Cuts 25
Gold Die Cuts 10
Green Die Cuts 5
Black Die Cuts 1

Variations Base
Variations Red 279
Variations Blue 149
Variations Purple 49
Variations Gold 10
Variations Green 5
Variations Black 1

Variations Red Die Cuts 135
Variations Blue Die Cuts 74
Variations Purple Die Cuts 25
Variations Gold Die Cuts 10
Variations Green Die Cuts 5
Variations Black Die Cuts 1

This is whats called reducing your total cost. The only thing that changes is the stock its printed on and maybe a minor modification to the text.

See for the rookies they would own the rights to the photos (mostly taken at photoshoot by a hired photographer) that's why you will have multiple versions of them. For the stars, buy the rights to one image and use it across multiple insert sets. so instead of paying say $100 for an image for one card, they use it on 10 cards spreading the cost and reducing overall costs.

It's all about adding in content in at the lowest possible cost.

nichj99 · Dec 5, 2014

So, the new prizm is live. And of course, the selling point of this product is the rainbow.

However, in the 2014-15 version of the product you now have 18 pieces to hunt down to complete it.

2012-13: 4
2013-14: 12 (13 if you count the BWR Mosaic that came later)
2014-15: 18

ReggieEvansPC · Dec 5, 2014

nichj99 said:
So, the new prizm is live. And of course, the selling point of this product is the rainbow.
However, in the 2014-15 version of the product you now have 18 pieces to hunt down to complete it.
2012-13: 4
2013-14: 12 (13 if you count the BWR Mosaic that came later)
2014-15: 18

The amount of parallels in 2014-15 Prizm is a joke.

Prizm, Blue and Green Mosaic Prizm, Yellow and Red Mosaic Prizm, Green Prizm, Blue Mojo Prizm, Blue Wave Prizm, Red White and Blue Pulsar Prizm, Orange Die-Cut Prizm #/139, Blue Prizm #/99, Light Blue Prizm #/49, Red Prizm #/49, Red Pulsar Prizm #/25, Gold Prizm #/10, Gold Puslar Prizm #/10, Black Prizm 1/1, Black Pulsar Prizm 1/1

nichj99 · Dec 5, 2014

Disappointed with having gold and gold pulsar. Essentially, gold is now numbered #/20. Not so rare at all.

ReggieEvansPC · Dec 5, 2014

Found this on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-15-DEM...44155578?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item3a9d1ef7ba

Brian Lee · Dec 7, 2014

That's nuts... 16 parallels for the same old photo.... and take a look at Dante Exum's so-called Variation in Totally Certified, even that is the same pic.

nichj99 · Dec 7, 2014

ReggieEvansPC said:
The amount of parallels in 2014-15 Prizm is a joke.

Prizm, Blue and Green Mosaic Prizm, Yellow and Red Mosaic Prizm, Green Prizm, Blue Mojo Prizm, Blue Wave Prizm, Red White and Blue Pulsar Prizm, Orange Die-Cut Prizm #/139, Blue Prizm #/99, Light Blue Prizm #/49, Red Prizm #/49, Red Pulsar Prizm #/25, Gold Prizm #/10, Gold Puslar Prizm #/10, Black Prizm 1/1, Black Pulsar Prizm 1/1

You forgot purple prizm #/139

theflyinggerco · Dec 7, 2014

Mikan doesn't get much hobby love (less than 320 cards in total), but even then17 parallels is far, far too many. I can only imagine what its been like for the player collectors of more popular players.

KB. · Dec 7, 2014

theflyinggerco said:
Mikan doesn't get much hobby love (less than 320 cards in total), but even then17 parallels is far, far too many. I can only imagine what its been like for the player collectors of more popular players.

Yeah I couldn't imagine PC'ing a superstar, you'd have like 50 cards per release. I struggle with Aminu who luckily hasn't been in certified or prizm this year, as I'm still chasing Hoops & Prestige!

theflyinggerco · Dec 7, 2014

KB. said:
Yeah I couldn't imagine PC'ing a superstar, you'd have like 50 cards per release. I struggle with Aminu who luckily hasn't been in certified or prizm this year, as I'm still chasing Hoops & Prestige!

I was looking at starting an Exum PC... He already has 153 cards!

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